14 Jul 2015 12:56:39
Clyne=Darmian
Milner>Schweinsteiger
Firmino>Depay
Schneiderlin>nobody
Ings>nobody
Bogdan>nobody
Gomez>nobody

I make that 5-1 in our favour. Depay is a kid and Bastian has been on his last legs for years now, whilst Milner has only gotten stronger with age.

I don't buy this "Man U have done good business". Darmian and Schneiderlin are good signings, but Bastian isn't even better than Carrick and Depay isn't better than Young or Valencia.

Who cares what they're doing anyway? Who even brought this up? Swear to god we'll all happily sit here and slag off our own players but blow Uniteds trumpet when they've done nothing spectacular anyway? What's that all about?

{Ed023's Note - United have done good business - you pointed out that Bastian is on his last legs so they put legs beside him in Schneiderlin which is good business. Fair enough on your opinion but to say you're not buying the good business bit is tunnel visioned and that is coming from a Liverpool fan. They have went and strengthened their weak areas (something we haven't done) case closed}


1.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:11:01
Roger had a simple job this summer. A goal Keeper, a right back and a striker (a quality striker)

He has improved the squad in one area, unfortunetly Ut have approved their entire team. If they buy another stiker and a centre back then I really worry they could win the league next year.

The question marks over the rest of the defence I still relate back to Migs. His communication and distribution is poor. These defender we have question marks over are all international high quality players, but the lack of cohesion and positional sense, esp at set pieces, is imo directly down to the lack of direction and communication from the keeper. Defenders perform better with that confidence behind him. Let not spend another 50m on defenders, let spend 20m on a keeper. Before anyone says he a good shot stopper, imo being a good shot stopper is a minimum requirement for a bloody keeper


2.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:17:33
Hahaha yes we know all lfc signings are great in your eyes Ems so United's signings will never match up!

Let me get this straight, because you bought Bogdan and Gomez and we didn't need a backup keeper or CB that's 2 points to you? Same for Ings? i'd luv to know the logic behind this scoring system, much like all those posts where you use meaningless stats to prove your point 😊

These comparisons are obviously a bit silly and only lead to arguments but the one that gives me most pleasure is
- Milner at 29 yrs old, having been a squad player for City and England is bringing much needed quality and experience and showered in superlatives, whereas Bastien at 30, having been an integral part of Bayern and Germany winning all major titles, is old and past it!

Then you blabber on about Depay not being better than Young etc you do know he's still young and will only get better? Strange comment. I guess that makes signing Gomez pointless because he's no better than Toure, Sakho etc?

Lfc have made some good signings but they've got too many in (as usual) and forgot the key areas in need of improvement (as usual)


3.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:39:03
HoneyBadger are you sure Utd do not need a centreback, I'd say they need to rip up the plan and start again at CB. No team with Jones and Smalling as your defensive linchpins are going to win the title. They will take utd so far, but come on. The pair of them make too many mistakes, and ge bullied too often to win a league.


4.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:41:03
We have def made some very good signings , and correct me if I am wrong , but there is plenty of time left in this transfer window to bring in another two maybe three quality players , and , we will very soon get a massive fee from Man City , and you can be sure we will sign a Top striker , an area that we were so so poor last season ,
also Migs improved big time second half of last season , and Clyne is def a big improvement were we so weak for the last 3/4 years ,
so I have a very good feeling about this season , we should return to a high press , also with the new coaching team , for me , I am hoping for a top three never mind top four .


5.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:56:14
United certainty need a cb. and I agree that schweinsteiger may be on his last legs but him/Carrick alongside Herrera and schneiderlin is a top top midfield. I think ironically if man United signed kovacic instead of schweinsteiger they could have potentially had the best midfield in the league for the next 10 years


6.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:58:39
What a nonsense post EMS.


7.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 14:59:50
You'll have re-direct me to where I said Depay was pointless. He just isn't an instant improvement on your side.

Gomez and Bogdan aren't for us either. Bogdan is not better than Mingolet. Gomez is for the future like Depay is.

In my opinion United have made 2 good signings, Darmian and Schneiderlin. Liverpool have made 4. Clyne, Ings, Firmino and Milner.

What relevance is Bastian and Milners age? That's like saying Sturridge can pay until he's 40 because Giggs did it.

Different players burn out and peak at different stages. Bastian is burnt out and Milner is stronger than ever.

I will be ecstatic if you line up with Bastian alongside Schneiderlin because you'll have no out and out defensive midfielder and an aging superstar in the centre of the park. It'll work about as well as Hendo and Gerrard did. Ie, not at all. Morgan will just spend all game covering and babysitting Bastian.

People always seem to want to twist my words. I don't think Liverpool have done the best business, but it's certainly been better than Uniteds. How have you strengthened weak areas? Schneiderlin has replaced Herrera who was already a good player. Bastian isn't even as good as Carrick. Depay isn't as good as what you already have. Darmian isn't really much better than Phil Jones, Blind, Rojo, Shaw or Rafael. Valdes is a shocking replacement for De Gea as well even though you tied that up in January.

Van Persie is a major loss. Rooney (pen) is good, but RVP was still the better striker.

Sorry, I just don't see how it's good business.

Arsenal have done the best business so far. Cech makes them title contenders in my opinion. They could close the office for the summer and still cone out on top if you ask me. A keeper was all they lacked really. They have a young team that will kick on next season and rival Chelsea for the title whilst the 3 big clubs from the North East battle it out for 3rd, 4th and 5th.


8.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 15:26:08
EMS

what if they get in Cavani or Benzema? They are pushing for a striker and they would get one before the window close and it would one big name for sure.


9.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 15:09:57
Redphil,

Yes we need a new CB badly, fair point, although I will be happy with either Smalling or Rojo to partner the new guy and hope their game will be lifted somewhat. Not many teams have 2 top level CB's in fact I can only think of around 3 top level CB's in the whole league right now.


10.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 15:55:59
If they get Cavani and we get Benteke then again we're about even there.

They need a top centre back.

Only 3? Terry, Sakho, Cahill, Kompany, Lovren (I don't care if he had one bad season), Fonte, Vertonghen, Mertesacker, Koscielny etc. That's 9 international standard centre backs who play for top national sides just off the top of my head.

Smalling, Jones and Rojo need to fight for a place alongside a top centre back. If you sign Ramos then fair enough. That's a game changer.

Atm, you just look weaker to me with an aging Carrick, a floundering Rooney, losing RVP, possibly losing De Gea and replacing players who didn't really need replacing even if you have improved on them. Rafael and Herrera aren't exactly bad players though. Darmian and Schneiderlin are just better.

If you get Cavani and Ramos then I'd say you've had a good summer. As it stands though, I don't see it.


11.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 16:14:08
I know Ems, everyone picks on you and twists your words, I feel so sorry for you 😉

On Bastien/Milner - I wasn't aware you had access to their medical files and are able to predict the future. As you imply you know when each player will "burn out" which in itself is an over simplified term.

Nobody knows how well Depay will do next season but he wasn't purchased to make an "instant improvement" he's more for the future. Bogdan, Gomez, Ings don't improve your starting 11 either - not every tranfer will.

Darmian is no better at RB than Jones, Blind, Shaw - none of which even play his position? Interesting point. And I can only assume you've watched Darmian extensively to be in a position to judge him?

RvP a huge loss? That depends on who comes in tbh, based on last season there wasn't much to be missed, although I do think he could still be a valuable squad option.

Ems, I know you can't see how United have done good business, its just that most others can see it! Must be those tinted specs you have on 😎

Your post just seems like a rant, like you've been wound up by the gall of someone actually praising United's transfers!

Arsenal have made great head way with Chech but if you think they're good to go with only Giroud as a recognised no.9 and only le Coq as a recognised DM then I think you are over egging it. Chelsea still have a better squad with a stronger spine Imo.


12.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 15:41:36
Sorry EMS but you just sound really really silly.

Your analysis of Schweinsteiger is my favourite part. You are making yourself out to seem very bitter and kind of football illiterate.


13.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 16:45:13
"I can only think of around 3 top level CB's in the whole league right now" this is a very subjective turn of phrase so it will depend on your definition of top level, clearly.

Terry, Kos, possibly Cahill, possibly Kompany (he's been poor for a while now mind) were the fellas I had I mind.

Why would you lump Lovren and Sakho in with that lot? That amuses me and illustrates your bias, no end.

Sakho struggles to even make the lfc team, he's got talent but he's very raw still and likes to let the ball slip off his head, which is quite a unique skill, but not ideal. Lovren - I don't think any further explanation is needed - he is Lovren. You may recall he was a figure of ridicule last year for being such a poor defender.

Vertonghen and Mertesacker are both limited defensively, in my book they are not top level Epl CB's - far from it. Why do none of the big clubs go after Vertonghen I wonder?And why do most gooners want Mert replaced?

Fonte looks good on Motd but then so did Lovren (less said the better), so I'm not going to label him a top CB until he's proven himself elsewhere.

Other than that I agree with your assessment of top level CB's 😲


14.) 14 Jul 2015
14 Jul 2015 16:59:56
I'm can't believe how many Liverpool fans are saying Bastian isn't a good signing. If he's stays injury free his impact could be bigger than Gary Macs was for us!

If we had bought him everyone here would be creaming themselves.