04 Feb 2016 09:03:08
Just reading the negativity toward klopp down the pages, talk about fickle. I didn't want Rodgers but felt it only fair to get behind him and give him time, he ultimately proved me right and turned out to be the truly awful manager I thought he was.

Now turn to klopp, a proven title winning manager, wanted by a succession of top quality football clubs across the globe, and three months into his tenure and working with another managers poorly recruited players and a shocking injury list, people are questioning his abilities? Truly truly shocking and an insight into the new breed of Liverpool supporter, the verruca salt generation.

I for one am over the moon that klopp is our manager and I am 1000% confident that he will mould the side with HIS players into a title challenging team!

I will make a note of the posters questioning him at the moment because I'm equally confident the same posters will resurface when he gets it right and they will be fawning all over him, telling everyone who will listen that they always had every confidence in him.

{Ed001's Note - scary isn't it just how fickle people are?}

1.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 09:25:33
Well said Waro. Best post I've seen on here in years.

2.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 09:34:29
i do agree with ed002 that he needs to adapt a little to his current situation. but ill be honest i don't know what's going on so i can't say i know in what areas.

but i definitely think he is the right man to bring us forward. he needs time. its not easy coming in mid season to a squad left by brendan. were still in both cups which is something i'm not confident brendan couldev given us at this point.

3.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 09:46:17
Kaizer, you say you would not be confident that Rodgers would have kept us in both cup What big team have we played and knocked out of either cup. We have had the easiest draw up to now in both cups that I can ever remember.

{Ed001's Note - yes but we were getting hiding off the likes of Stoke under Bodgers, unless it escaped your attention as your head was so far up his backside you probably couldn't see results.}

4.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 09:56:04
Hats off to the owners for getting us a top coach in Klopp.

5.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 10:01:24
I see improvements with the same team rodgers had. I gave rodgers time, i even said he would be our signing of the season, you can find it here. turns out i was wrong, and i'm not afraid to admit i was wrong.

What did rodgers improve after finishing second? i only remember him complaining about losing a player like suarez, never mentioned the replacements he selected with that money now did he?

6.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 10:04:15
Semi final defeat to Aston Villa last season. Who says Rodgers needed a big team to get knocked out?

7.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 11:51:45
Done know how many times certain cretins need to be told to go back and watch the first interview he gave, he stated then it would not be easy, it would take time, and it was going to be hard to watch at times, and one of the most pertinent points he made was we would win 1 trophy in the next 4 years and we along with the football public and media were overjoyed by this.

To those that can't see what's happening, open your eyes, maybe take 4 hours over the next week to watch a game 2 or 3 times. You will see the changes in how we play, how we setup, create space etc, it's not perfect but we are no where near what a Klopp Liverpool will look like in another 2 seasons time. As far as I'm concerned he has 5 years to take us back to the top, that's being realistic, it can't be done overnight but it will done.

EMS posted before that Rodgers never get us to a cup final, Klopp has, all the proof u need. Rodgers failed abysmally in Europe, we are now out of the group stages and looking like we can do some real damage.

How many times did any of us see all these fab young lads in the first team in the last 3 years, very damn little if at all, now, I've seen them play full matches, I've seen them tear teams apart. I've watched them hold a West Ham side that's been kicking our arses with our "First Team", to a nil all draw, while being the better side.

He is not a messiah, he is not a god, what is he? He is Jurgen Klopp, the best damn manager we have had in a long time and someone I honestly believe in, I've no reservations about him being in charge I whole heartedly embrace what he is bring to our club.

For those that don't believe, and who want him gone or say he is no good, don't come jumping on the bus when we start winning trophys as it will be full, full of the true believers.

In this moment, I Believe.

(Think u might have a point on the owners too Waro ;) if we are going to have owners that stay in the background we need impossibly mega wealthy sheik owners who don't care about FFP lol)

8.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 11:51:45
Done know how many times certain cretins need to be told to go back and watch the first interview he gave, he stated then it would not be easy, it would take time, and it was going to be hard to watch at times, and one of the most pertinent points he made was we would win 1 trophy in the next 4 years and we along with the football public and media were overjoyed by this.

To those that can't see what's happening, open your eyes, maybe take 4 hours over the next week to watch a game 2 or 3 times. You will see the changes in how we play, how we setup, create space etc, it's not perfect but we are no where near what a Klopp Liverpool will look like in another 2 seasons time. As far as I'm concerned he has 5 years to take us back to the top, that's being realistic, it can't be done overnight but it will done.

EMS posted before that Rodgers never get us to a cup final, Klopp has, all the proof u need. Rodgers failed abysmally in Europe, we are now out of the group stages and looking like we can do some real damage.

How many times did any of us see all these fab young lads in the first team in the last 3 years, very damn little if at all, now, I've seen them play full matches, I've seen them tear teams apart. I've watched them hold a West Ham side that's been kicking our arses with our "First Team", to a nil all draw, while being the better side.

He is not a messiah, he is not a god, what is he? He is Jurgen Klopp, the best damn manager we have had in a long time and someone I honestly believe in, I've no reservations about him being in charge I whole heartedly embrace what he is bring to our club.

For those that don't believe, and who want him gone or say he is no good, don't come jumping on the bus when we start winning trophys as it will be full, full of the true believers.

In this moment, I Believe.

(Think u might have a point on the owners too Waro ;) if we are going to have owners that stay in the background we need impossibly mega wealthy sheik owners who don't care about FFP lol)

9.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 12:06:42
I agree Waro but here is the thing, you don't have to be intelligent whatsoever and certainly you do not have to understand the intricacies of football, tactically and what goes on behind the scenes. You do not need any of that to enjoy the beautiful game, to enjoy following Liverpool and to have an opinion. Some people are just stupid and thickle and it is tough, it's annoying but like I say tough. Once this team is actually a team Klopp has assembled, we will be contenders in all competitions I am sure, so I agree with you there. But don't you think it is a little bit tragic if you are actually planning to make a note of the people who are slagging klopp off now and then call them out when they prove to be thickle? Surely it's really not worth it.

10.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 13:43:10
Agree with you 100% Waro. Delighted we got Klopp and we have to just give him time.

11.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 15:14:46
This forum suffers from hyperbole. Klopp has not been doing well, in the league anyway. The results are there for everyone to see, people need to stop the excuses and see what is in front of them. I expected more and i don't feel ashamed admitting it. You see it all the time where a new manager walks in and results improve. Liverpool PL results havent, they have got slightly worse. Saying that, i hope that a few new faces and a brave few out will help and a good pre season hopefully we see what Klopp is all about. Do i want to give Klopp 3 years like some of the nonsense i have read? No way! He needs to be up and running next season. I don't give a hoot if it was Rodgers, Klopp or anyone else, i want LFC to be a success and win trophies.

12.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 13:31:06
Ed002 I really don't get it. You're calling fans fickle for not being happy so far under klopp, and in other posts are having a go at people making 'excuses' for him not having turned us around so far. Which is it - are they right to change their view based on what's happening or are they fickle for it? Not having a go I just genuinely don't understand if you think Klopp is decent and needs time to show it or if you think that he's not that great and is being found out (I'm assuming you aren't advocating that people should form an instant opinion and sick by them no matter what) .

{Ed002's Note - I think you will find it was Ed001 calling you fickle on this occasion, but not to worry. But it is fair to say that there are a lot of people making excuses for Klipperty where previously the would have been knocking the likes of Rodgers. Fickle is adjective for the Liverpool fans.}

13.) 04 Feb 2016
04 Feb 2016 18:28:33
Apologies, my mistake Ed002. Does that mean that there is a significant difference of opinion on Klopp between the Eds? I'd love to hear the podcast on that!

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the other Eds think of Klipperty. Maybe you should ask #WonderDogSparky who Kilipperty has taken lodgings with. https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/61783826115157437/ }