12 Apr 2022 11:24:07
Hamman just shared how he thinks Klopp is great and Pep not as much as he has the money and is doing what others before him in the same position has done - win domestic leagues and cups with a lot of money

He even went on to say BM pre and post Pep won the CL!

Maybe he's biased cause he's German and Red. But so much truth to what he shared and loved that he still loves us and don't see the need to compensate like other former players of ours in the studio by underplaying our success (sadly even Carragher does that at times) .


1.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 12:05:42
Truth is no one remembers how much you spend if you continue winning trophies, people only start noticing when you fail to win trophies.

One of the greatest manager of all time six Alex was spending 30M in 2000s on the likes of Ferdinand etc and yet no one remembers that how far United were financially to any of it's competitors for over a decade.


2.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 12:06:54
If he’s not so great why does he keep besting us? I agree I think he is overrated but he still seems to always find a way to finish in front of us (minus the champions league)


3.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 12:15:04
Without Pep city wouldn’t win the same number of trophies. Period. Give that money to anyone and they wouldn’t win half of the trophies he has won.
UTD has spend more than city in recent times including the wages they pay and how many trophies have they won 😂.


4.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 12:32:40
Yes but it's not like you've picked up Alisson, VDV, Keita, Konate, Diaz etc for bag's of nuts is it? Like you said, probably because he's German and Red.


5.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 12:37:42
Spot on kop forever - people don’t realise the amount of backing ( financially ) fergie received in order to “ knowledge us off our perch “.


6.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 13:15:12
I think it telling that almost every player who has played under Pep has come out and said he made them a better player, physically and mentally. Yes he's always had money or inherited great teams, but you have to make those teams play and win, and he doesn't just do it as a one off, continued success. People should just give credit where credit is due.


7.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 13:17:09
What Klopp has done with the funds he's had and the players he has is more impressive than what Pep has done with the funds he's had and the players he works with. City is the better team and have won far more trophies than us which is as expected with their Wealth / transfer spend. If Klopp doesn't win anything else this season he has still done brilliantly again.


8.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 13:51:09
Give Klopp the type of money that Pep has had and he would at least equal the trophies, in my opinion, it would be more no doubt.


9.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:01:26
Pep is a good coach/ manager but Klopp is better.


10.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:07:28
City wouldn't win the trophies they have without Guardiola or the money they have. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
The same goes for us having Klopp and buying the likes of van Dijk and Alisson.
The difference is City have more money to spend than us. But they do win more trophies than us.
I don't mind that and we've won the CL and the PL in the eras of Guardiola and Klopp.
That'll do for me.


11.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:11:26
I thought we was not at are best at the weekend and city should have put it to bed in the first half.
Player for player are team is better than city’s but city never seem to play bad even if they lose or draw that’s is down to how Pep plays football.
But for are club on are budget Pep would not get us anywhere near where Klopp has.


12.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:22:04
People are missing the point
Pep definitely is good
But many good good managers with his kind of resources would likely have gotten the same results and success as he did

City besting us shouldn’t be news. The transfer budget and team they can build, they should be winning almost everything in front of them

Yes we did spend big, and that has gotten us to where we are but the transfer budgets and wages are vastly different between the 2 clubs

I don’t suppose Klopp is doing a Nigel Clough with us but he’s doing something very special and with this red tinted fan, I happen to think he’s the superior manager to Pep.

{Ed0666's Note - We have a better squad than city. His bench is not that great when you compare the two teams.


13.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:37:16
One of the biggest compliments you can pay Jurgen is that when he first came here he was concentrating mainly on trying to ensure CL qualification by getting as high in the league as possible which meant cup competitions were less of a priority. We have pushed MC, arguably the best team in years, and kept them on their toes. Now we are dreaming of the quadruple.
Dreading the day he decides to move on.


14.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:55:32
Pep is world class at what he does and Klopp is world class at what he does. Both have lots of similar strengths and lots of different strengths.

It doesn’t always have to be who is better than who.

{Ed0666's Note - Klopp is better because he manages Liverpool 😂😝


15.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 17:35:07
Agree with you Ed 666. Klopp is better just simply because he manages Liverpool. Period. 😁.

{Ed0666's Note - there’s no arguments mate


16.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 18:26:47
Guardiola is an elite manager, his success record speaks for itself. But he is a bit of a flat track bully, only going to teams that are already in a dominant position in their respective leagues and have big cash resources.
Put him in the same budget situation as Klopp is and the teams reverse positions. City would still be a terrific team, but weaken that expensive squad of theirs and they won't be a trophy hoovering machine any more.
And it's not all just about the money either. Man Utd and Everton are good examples of large sums of money being spent badly with teams in obvious decline despite the fortunes frittered away.
Guardiola would still do pretty well as Liverpool manager, but Klopp fits us in a way the Guardiola never would, horses for courses.


17.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 20:22:15
For me as well, I think Pep is overrated and I think there are a ton of holes in his record you can highlight and Hamann just mentioned a few and there are many. I think his mistakes and failures are never highlighted as much as his successes are overblown in a bid to hide them, IMO.

Comparison to Klopp? I feel both are great at what they do BUT I will always pick a guy who grew up in the slums and worked his way to the top over a guy who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and reached the same level. Degree of Difficulty matters here, in my view.

Pep wins more cos he was given more. Klopp wins more while being given way less in comparison to Pep. The fact there is even a debate is the greatest compliment you can pay Klopp, IMO.


18.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 22:13:28
Can you list the few holes in Pep’s career Oli mate 😅😅. For a starter Pep was a brilliant DM under the great legendary Johan cryuff’s dream team 😀😀.


19.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 23:07:04
Pep has always inherited teams that have already won leagues and spent loads more after that, klopp inherited a terrible team.


20.) 13 Apr 2022
13 Apr 2022 00:09:46
I think haji already did that
And the BM team he inherited was a treble winning one, yet they won the UCL pre and post Pep but not when he was managing them.

Given the resources he had, he should be matching Ancelotti for European cups (and Ancelotti was deemed as underachieving for identical reasons! )

He will be remembered as a great no doubt and he’s had great success. But as many has pointed out here, he’s stock May have been inflated.

Meanwhile Klopp, Simone (don’t like him nor his football), has achieved great things amidst greater limitations.


21.) 13 Apr 2022
13 Apr 2022 19:36:36
Haji, there’s many more where that came from. Pep is a great manager BUT his flaws are so many, I could write three pages worth of them. The info us out there if people like Harry ever bothered to check.

Harry, the fact you think Pep was a brilliant DM under Cruyff at Barcelona tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of Pep as a player and even worse, as a manager.