07 Jul 2022 14:19:36
A lot of talk on social media regarding the Ox. Should we keep him or look to sell. With 12 months left on his contract he can leave for nothing. Any thoughts. What would be his current value. Quality player until his injury but hardly plays now. Would also stunt the development of the younger players in the squad. If his value is very low maybe keep him as a squad/back up player for 12 months.

1.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 14:30:17
I don't think he is a quality player anymore. It is the right time to sell him. Giving him a new contract would make no sense.

2.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 15:34:34
Let him leave imo, give any of his potential minutes to a youngster and let him try, injuries permitting, get game time elsewhere.

He comes across as a nice guy and has talent. But for his wages and the fact he won't get too many minutes, it just makes sense to see if there are any takers.

I still think he will end up at Newcastle but that's based on no more then a hunch.

3.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 15:39:44
I wouldn’t give him another contract no.

4.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 16:31:28
This might not be a popular opinion but I think there’s a massive difference between being a quality player and giving a few quality performances.

Don’t get me wrong Ox had some quality performances for us prior to his injuries but when I think of who has been a quality player for us during the Klopp era players like Allison, Vvd, Trent, Robbo, Fab, Hendo, Bobby, Mo and Mane come to mind well over the Ox.

5.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 17:29:29
Let him go. He needs a new environment to resurrect his career. And £15 Million sounds about right.

6.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 17:31:27
Sell him get what he can he’s a big wage taker cut our losses and wish him the best.

7.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 16:38:57
Last season Joel Matip was pretty much injury free and he had a really good season.

If Bobby and the Ox could have injury free seasons then we could have a couple of brilliant options to use and then we could see whether they should get new contracts.

If they decide to leave for free then that’s fine but if they play well and deserve new 2 or 3 year contracts which they take up then everyone is a winner.

8.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 16:39:57
Get rid. Buy someone else.

9.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 17:31:27
Sell him get what he can he’s a big wage taker cut our losses and wish him the best.

10.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 18:41:40
By all accounts he wasn't injured much last season and still only got the odd minutes here and there. Seems like a really nice guy and is a genuine talent. . But his wages and injury record. he needs to go. But if he goes some1 must come in.

{Ed014's Note - he’s always been hit and miss, exactly the same for us and I was glad to see the back of him.

11.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 18:50:23
He was a huge miss in the CL final against Madrid after he got injured. Not been the same player since. This season I think he had his chances and failed to take them. Time to move him on. But if not a good squad and cup player.

12.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 18:53:33
Tommy, Ox was injury free all last season mate. He just wasn’t selected much outside of Jan when Salah and Mane were away and he didn’t react well when he was hooked against Forest in March. Which were actually his last minutes of the season despite us playing more or less every 3 days for 2 months after.

13.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 19:11:51
The whole Ox is injury prone has been debunked royally cos he has been fit for the better part of the last 2 seasons now. Now as to whether he is a quality player? No, he’s not. Does he gave some qualities? Of course cos he wouldn’t be here. Should we sell? If a good offer comes then, sure BUT if not then we keep him and let him go on a free in 20223.

14.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 21:03:22
I think he will go this window to be honest. We have some quality youngsters who can cover the minutes he plays in my opinion.
Far more beneficial in the long run to give the time he would usually get between the likes of Jones, Elliott and Carvallho. Plus we will make some money back to use on another player.

15.) 07 Jul 2022
07 Jul 2022 21:12:15
Tommy, Ox was fit nearly all of last season. He just wasn't picked.

16.) 08 Jul 2022
08 Jul 2022 01:29:28
@LverpoolFC8 - best post of the year so far. You’ve created the title for this and all future transfer windows “Get rid. Buy someone else. ” Absolutely brilliant, made me laugh out loud.

17.) 08 Jul 2022
08 Jul 2022 08:47:28
Name one player at Liverpool who isn't a quality player.
Ox can be improved upon for sure, his number of appearances while being fit last season bear testament to that. Klopp must have some reservations about him or he would have used him during the ton of games we had.
I doubt he'll be here after next season so folks will have to double down on hating Keita to get rid of their ire.

18.) 08 Jul 2022
08 Jul 2022 09:06:32
@flashthered. That's easy Nabby ox and if salahs form continues in to this season you can add him also.

19.) 08 Jul 2022
08 Jul 2022 09:18:36
In fairness to be a pro footballer you have to be a quality footballer and that includes outside of LFC.

What I meant but probably didn’t articulate very well was that there’s lots of different levels of quality these players are at and Ox isn’t near our star performers or consistent ones.

Over the last 2 seasons Klopp has chosen to give Ox just over a thousand minutes of league football which equates to 11 and a half games from 76 which is 14%.

I could have included the Cups but our 2 star performers in the cups last season have just been sold or released so that shows where Klopps bread and butter is and to include the CL just brings that 14% down.

I’d be more than happy to see the Ox stay but looking from outside to in for the last 2 months of the season he was bottom choice forward/ midfielder in the pecking order and didn’t play a single minute from March despite being something like the 8-10th reported best paid player in the squad.

What he gets paid as zero bearing on me but I’m sure it does on FSG when it comes to his renewal and future.

After all how many successful business’s pay massive wages to employees who hardly contribute (not his fault he’s not getting picked but he’s not) .

Perhaps if he wants a high wage for little work he should put his name in the hat to be the next Prime Minister.

20.) 08 Jul 2022
08 Jul 2022 10:53:16
I was not proposing to give Ox a new contract this summer but considered whether keeping him for 12 months and monitoring his game time and performances made financial sense. If he performs to a high standard then look at his contract next summer or leave for free. If he was to leave this window we need a replacement. But as we know Jurgen does not buy stop gaps and the chance of Jude coming this window is remote. I bet someone out there has already penned a Beatles song in preparation.

21.) 09 Jul 2022
09 Jul 2022 08:23:40
Keep Ox. He wasn’t Stevie G last season lol but it is easily forgotten that he did a fair job stepping in for the cups as a senior player and also during AFCON. Not finished for me but he does need a run of games.