07 Aug 2022 16:34:22
Okay third day of the new season and I'm done already.

Can we just get rid of VAR in the Prem forever please.

That Martinez challenge in the United game was as blatant a penalty you can get. Ref says no and VAR takes 2 milliseconds to back him up.

The standard of refs will never improve so that's not an option.

I can cope with refs making bad decisions - I can't take it anymore that they have all the tools they need and still bloody get it wrong. That's so, so much more annoying.

Moral of the story VAR fails because the additional tools and ruined by the tools using them.

{Ed014's Note - that was an hilarious decision, how even the ref didn’t think it was a pen was incredulous

1.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 16:46:52
Refs theses days hide behind VAR, it's made the overall standard even worse. My main problem with VAR is that when a goal goes in, my first thought is that to celebrate, its to just stand there in worry until the goal is finally given. Like u say, can take a mistake from the ref or assistants but not from someone sitting in a TV studio 400mils away.

2.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 16:51:48
Tierney is a poor poor ref. Agree that there's no way you can have all the technology, look at that incident and NOT give a penalty. Nearly as bad as the Rodri one last season.

3.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 16:52:55
Wassa I’d love Football to get rid of Var as well. Being in a Premier League game now just doesn’t have that same feeling as more or less every goal is going to Var before it’s officially given. I went to a couple of championship games last season on freebie tickets and it was a breath of fresh air. Even the officials seem better as they don’t look like they believe the game is all about them and they allow the game to flow more.

I’m all for getting rid of the dirty challenges but it’s amazing how many of these Premier League footballers who are physical specimens end up on the ground rolling around from minimal contact and even a good old shoulder to shoulder tussle.

With Fifa looking at using more technology (offsides) in the World Cup it looks like the game is going to get overrun by it more than the hope of it being binned.

4.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 18:12:43
VAR sucks but it was always going to be this way. Remember that VAR was only introduced because fans, commentators, managers etc complained ad nauseum about refs and linesmen getting decisions wrong. Now we are left with this disaster that takes all the emotion out of the game. I long for the days when you went to work on a Monday morning and debated if it WAS a handball or such and such was CLEARLY offside.

5.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 19:04:09
It’s not VAR that’s the problem it’s the standard of referees. Until that improves VAR or not it’ll be shocking.

VAR is there as an aide to remove poor decisions/ mistakes. instead it’s the blind leading the blind and refusing to say a fellow ref got it wrong.

The game is fast so it’s ok to miss something if you are at the wrong angle, but when someone has all the angles and still gets it wrong, that isn’t the technologies fault. It’s purely down to the individuals.

6.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 19:23:14
They have actually created a way to
Influence matches even more than they used to…if they wanted to.

7.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 19:35:36
Ed014 I think var is c0rr*pt. I've seen many goals ruled "offside" and thought it's amazing how lines suddenly bend. Also those big decisions that go in certain teams favour. Yes we all get one or two you think we've got away with one there but that penalty not given for everton against City was blatant corruption.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely cookee..

8.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 19:55:00
VAR isn't the issue it's how it's used. The whole debate about what is and what is not a foul has become such a grey area. The refs clearly don't have a standard about what is and what is not a foul and it's the epitome of ineptitude on their part. I don't think Trent was fouled yesterday i think he was totally at fault for what should have been a routine clearance. Virgil was naive taking a second bite for the pen that he never needed to take; he's smarter than that but it was never a pen. But to see players launch themselves in the air when touched as tho gravity was just reversed for a moment in time needs to be addressed. The Euros last summer gave me some hope that referees were starting to make common sense decisions but unfortunately the PL refs couldn't match that level. I'm hoping the World Cup brings a higher level of refereeing and shows the PL how out of touch (no pun) they are w the modern game. Week after week they are the talking points and not the players.

{Ed025's Note - the refs are using VAR as a crutch redflyer and that’s the problem. It’s a cop out for them. That was a nailed on pen for Fulham yesterday though mate. And let’s not slate players for diving when you have had mane and salah acting like Tom daly for the past 3 years..

9.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 20:07:52
Funny how Super League rugby league can get video working honestly, openly and seemingly correctly? Why is the prem version such a s***fest by comparison? It’s taking the fun out of the game when goals can’t be celebrated for five mins in case someone broke a fingernail half an hour previous to a “goal”. Open and honest reffing would be a start.

10.) 08 Aug 2022
08 Aug 2022 08:02:25
It’s not the referees’ fault. They are now in a position of dampened if they do or damned if they don’t because n effect, VAR is a second overriding referee. It seems inevitable to me that the more entrenched VAR becomes the more the role of the referee will be undermined with more and more decisions being referred to VAR.

In the ‘good old days’ referees used to make mistakes and from a Liverpool fan’s perspective I reckon we used to get about half a dozen diabolical decisions go against us and about the same number going for us but at least there was a feeling that the ref’s decision was final. We sang rude sings about him but generally accepted it for what it was - a human error which most of us made (excluding Premier League Manager players of course) .

If it was my choice I’d get rid of VAR and showing the match on a big screen in the grounds. Of course, there’s no chance this will happen.

11.) 08 Aug 2022
08 Aug 2022 11:59:20
anyone see the non-handball in the arsenal game? Think it was Gabriel? Ball was miles in the air then came down and landed on his forearm, no pen hahaha Guess they thought it wasn’t intentional, but when is a handball ever intentional anyways. The one we won vs City was hardly intentional.

12.) 13 Aug 2022
13 Aug 2022 13:43:02
Putting conspiracy theories to one side, the refs usually won't blow for fouls unless they're cast iron sure as they expect VAR to pick up errors. The problem is VAR won't correct the original decision unless this ridiculous 'clear and obvious' criteria is met. So VAR influences the original decision and then won't correct that in most cases.
Need to sort out what 'clear and obvious' means or the system will always be awful.