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25 Aug 2019 15:01:29
What a free kick by Harry Wilson. His all round game needs to improve if he's to have a future at Liverpool but the boy can strike a ball👏.

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25 Aug 2019 16:58:42
OP, anyone can strike a ball if you practise enough. It is not a talent.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true. It is a very definite skill to be fair.}

25 Aug 2019 18:31:01
Clearly someone who has never played football at any level would come out with such a daft statement.

25 Aug 2019 20:27:46
Rubbish, IR. Playing in the regional leagues in France in my 20's, I was able to chip the GK from 25 yards out for fun. It was not some skill or natural talent. I just learned and worked on it in training and during training matches and in games. Even you could learn it cos it was not that complicated.

Ed01, you mentioned skill. IMO, skill can be worked on/ honed to near perfection, IMO. The word "talent" was me referring to striking the ball, as not being a natural talent cos you can work on it. A distinction w/ o a difference? I don't know. Just my opinion.

25 Aug 2019 21:19:21
some players have that knack for striking a ball. I think that is why you have long range bombers like scholes, stevie and lampard, and then everyone else.

25 Aug 2019 21:26:55
We are talking about a player putting a ball over the wall, past the keeper, into the top corner. If it was that easy to be "worked on" you would have more players able to do it. It is a skill or talent if you want.

25 Aug 2019 21:33:39
It's clearly a bit of both as not every person is similar in what it takes to be strong in that particular skill. You will obviously improve with training and practice but certain unique traits play a part in how every individual differs in being naturally suited to be more talented than others. Ronaldo has shown that with extreme training and hard work he can now strike a ball much better than he could when in his early United years.
But then someone like balotelli has shown from a young age that he was strong in the art of thumping a clean strike yet he's not the type of player who has trained hard or shown improvement in his game.

Attributes like balance, body shape or physique along with vision is more natural than trained. How each brain thinks differently in the process of picking a spot or choosing type of technique and power to use is clearly very naturally built in to each player in different ways that can play a huge part in being talented for that particular skill.

To say it's not a natural talent and only training is needed to master it is very much false. Training is essential of course but certain traits in each person's make up plays a big part and not something that can be easily trained to change.

25 Aug 2019 22:57:07
Har_red92, I can agree with your Ronaldo allusion cos part of it explains my point, to some extent. The rest of your post is also, very interesting as well and I agree with. Loved the debate.

26 Aug 2019 00:04:38
Cheers Redwolf. it's pretty much similar to most aspects of sport. I can't think of many where natural talent doesn't play some part. Even a basic game which has constant repetitive actions like darts for example relies on constant practise for improvement yet many players have shown to be much better than others despite less hours spent training. Things like hand eye coordination and composure under pressure are built into each person differently and those traits all contribute towards a 'natural talent' as such.

Be interesting if there's any examples where this isn't the case.



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