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11 Nov 2019 15:04:54
Am i wrong in thinking the following.

Any handball in a lead up to a goal by attacking team regardless of accident will be given as handball? Mane v United or Jesus v Tottenham etc.

Would this not apply to yesterday like if Trent doesn't touch it and Sterling I think was behind him scores VAR would run it out? Surely same logic means you can't give a penalty. I was surprised so much got made of it to be honest.

{Ed002's Note - You are correct, biut the logic does not apply if a penalty is given.}

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11 Nov 2019 15:17:06
If a penalty was awarded by the ref are you saying it would not be overruled Ed? I just want to make sure I understand correctly as under the rules as they are I would probably agree.

What is the general hand ball rule now? Is it still based on natural/ unnatural position? If so I would argue Bernardos hand is stretched out behind while Trent's is at his side. Could this not lead to a penalty potentially having cause to be overturned?

{Ed002's Note - The rule only applies if a goal were to be the benefit, not a penalty.}

11 Nov 2019 15:26:16
My sentiments exactly, OP and Ed02. City have NO case here BUT good luck explaining that to the SM mob.

11 Nov 2019 15:26:14
Am amazed that everyone is talking about trents hand ball when it clearly hits silvers hand first. Neither of the players meant it intentionally!

11 Nov 2019 17:36:32
Ed. Are you sure as the rule clearly states handball is an offence if it hits the arm and leads to a goalscoring opportunity. A penalty is a goalscoring opportunity?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, I am sure.}

11 Nov 2019 17:36:46
Longthing76, I was watching a youtube watch along clip today with fan from City, Utd, Gunners, Newcastle, LFC and Chelsea fan and when the TAA incident happened, the City fan esp. ;lost his mind and was crying the whole time about how VAR got paid off by LFC and blah, blah, blah . Then, the LFC fan read the rule regarding how the TAA handball could not be a pen cos the ball riocheted off Silva's arm first then hits TAA's arm suddenly hence, no penalty.

Can you believe that the City and Chelsea fan wanted the play called back to give LFC a free kick? I mean, have these guys ever heard about playing the advantage? Why would the ref call back a foul in LFC's fav. while we were on the counter? Also, notice that NOBODY i talking about the fact that had City even scored off that pla, VAR would have called it back cos well, Silva handled the ball just like Mane's goal got called back vs Utd, Again, good luck explaining all of this to the Triggered City and Rivals fans on SM.

11 Nov 2019 19:33:02
Look at BOTH of trent's arms. They are both slightly away from his body as he has to lower himself after the deflection from silva's arm. If you bend your knees like that, your arms go out (unless riverdancing of course)

11 Nov 2019 23:25:22
Spot on, Robbie. This is what is conveniently being omitted in all the analysis of this play. The ball ricochets off Lovs, then onto Silva's arm. Then, TAA running onto the scene has to slow down hence, his hands are away of from his body to keep his balance and the ball hits his arm again, off of two initial deflections. Yet these clowns would have us believe that this is a penalty.

Also Michael Oliver was 4 yards away from the play. He had a clear view of it and deemed that in his opinion, TAA could not get his arm out of the way fast enuff after a double deflection. Again, the media leave that out in their analysis. I know they love Pep and want to let him off easy after Klopp did him for the upteenth time BUT this is ridiculous.



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