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26 Mar 2020 10:49:55
This will be unpopular but I don’t think Gerrard deserves his legendary status. He belongs in the “very good player” category. And he really wasn’t always very good since about 2007 on. If he was as good as people claim then he would have led us to a Premier League title, similar to how Maradona did with Napoli or Cantona did with Leeds and then United, or Kanye with Leicester. But the closest Stevie G came was 2014 - which was the year the truly world class Luis Suarez almost did a Maradona for us. Gerrard made that year all about himself as per usual, culminating in the silly huddle for the cameras after the City game at Anfield, being overly-hyped up against Chelsea which undoubtedly led to his title-blowing slip, which by the way wasn’t a slip as such, it was a costly mistake. As soon as he was no longer first choice he was off and yet people call him a one-club man. It’s laughable! Even his stated reason for going into management is bogus - he said winning a league title as a Liverpool manager would make himself feel better about not winning it as a player. WTF? LFC does not exist to make Steven Gerrard feel better about himself!

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26 Mar 2020 11:12:40
I started to follow footy in 2008 because of the sheer brilliance he showed on the pitch and the enigmatic and romantic persona he carried in relation to the club.

Players like him create fans. They make people love Liverpool football club. There is no point comparing him to Maradona or Scholes or Xabi Alonso or whoever. A LFC fan from a certain generation will always hold Gerrard in a certain esteem that no other player can occupy. It's not a matter of rationale. His decision to stay at LFC when he could have gone to Chelsea or Madrid is enough of a gesture of loyalty we need.

26 Mar 2020 11:43:40
I stopped reading after that first sentence. My God!

26 Mar 2020 11:16:35
Load of tripe. Can’t remember Cantona winning the CL with Leeds. Or Kante with Leicester. Or Suarez with us. You give poor justifications for criticisiing a superb player and club legend other than an apparent chip on your shoulder. Easily one of our best midfielders in the modern game.

26 Mar 2020 13:23:23
I didn’t mean him any disrespect, he was a very good player but not as effective as he should have been. His ego got the better of him. It’s the clubs fault as much as his own.

Klopp is proving that a top class manager is more important to a club than any player.

26 Mar 2020 14:04:11
I suppose it depends on how you define legend. In terms of him not being a league winning captain, I don't think he can be blamed for that. He only ever played for one manager (Rafa) who was good enough to win the league (yes, I know we were technically closer under Rodgers, but given how mis-shapen we were in the second half of the season and the passage of play against a lot of poor teams, it would've been very fortuitous) and for most of his tenure here the club was run in a backwards and at times disfunctional manner. If we'd had Barnes or Kenny at their peak ability instead of Gerrard, I doubt we'd have won the league either.

Did he have too much power at the club? Maybe. But he was as knobbish as let's say, Michael Owen with his employment of it? Not that I can tell.

The biggest criticism I can think of the guy is that he refused to play in his best position because he saw himself as something he's wasn't.

26 Mar 2020 19:42:08
Christ mate. You’re ignoring the goals he scored in all the finals? His partnership with Torres in the 08/ 09 title chase? His double digits goals and assists in 13/ 14? Those were all after 2007. And I don’t think you can adjudged a player as not a legend due to him not winning a league title.

Players often revered for “leading” their side to a title are all attackers, your Maradonas, Peles, Messis, Ronaldos. It’s very difficult for others to be seen in that light.

26 Mar 2020 20:13:23
Gerrard wasn't a very good player, he was world class.
He would have walked into any team on the planet.
When other top players tell you just how good he was, it's because they know, and who would know better than them?
It seems that some people have too much time on their hands at the moment.

26 Mar 2020 20:38:01
WHAT A HIT, SON, WHAT A HIT!

I'd be interested to know Ed001's opinion on this, since it seems the OP's post is based on info learned on this site.

The general public don't really know about Gerrard's power behind the scenes. It is Ed001's inside knowledge that has let us in on the extent of Gerrard's clique.

{Ed001's Note - I think he deserves it because of what he did on the pitch. What happened off the pitch was down to Rick Parry, who was a weak, inept man and so he let Gerrard become too powerful. I don't think that can be allowed to take away from the good performances Gerrard put in.}

26 Mar 2020 20:50:06
What has Klopp got to do with Gerrard. why use how great Klopp is to beat a player who served this club brilliantly? will none of the current players get the credit they deserve in years to come because they played under Jurgen? I spent me entire 20's in awe of Gerrard, he was phenomenal. i'd say the amount of times he was less than an 8/ 10 in all of his 700 plus appearances for the club could be counted on one hand. if a liverpool fan can't look back on Gerrards career with us as bathing of beauty then he's wasting his time supporting any football team.

26 Mar 2020 21:10:37
I knew it would be unpopular! But I stick by it. He had everything but his “I’m the Effin’ man” attitude went against us and him - even when he was the man! He was tough but he always wanted to be seen to be tough. He cost us against Chelsea and spent the rest of the match shooting from distance even though his legs were gone by then. It was unprofessional when so much was at stake.

And he wouldn’t have got into Pep’s Barcelona’s team at the time, Flash, not even at right back.

Sorry.

26 Mar 2020 21:21:46
Just for a bit of fun to follow up on your response Ed001, which Liverpool era/ team and under which manager do you think Gerrard would have been at his best?

{Ed001's Note - Klopp. Gerrard was so physical and he would have had to learn to work back.}

27 Mar 2020 07:21:20
Can we make a list of top ten poor posts of the year? I'll kick it off by nominating this one.
You say you didn't mean him any disrespect, but you haven't just commented on an existing thread, you started this one clearly to diminish Gerrard's legacy.

27 Mar 2020 08:29:52
Someone's forgotten Istanbul.

27 Mar 2020 11:03:43
"He cost us against chelsea". again, I just stopped reading.

27 Mar 2020 11:42:44
Not as effective as he could have been? Olympiakos, West ham, ac Milan. He was pretty effective in those games eh. He was easily our most effective player in his time with us. It's a shame we didn't have more Gerrards. We would have won the league every year if we had a team of Gerrards.

How can you say he's in the very good player bracket? He was absolutely world class. Definite club legend.

27 Mar 2020 19:31:58
Steve G was the best footballer of his generation at LFC but Souness was the greatest midfielder of any LFC era he dictated the pace of the game won his tackles and he scored goals when Souness came on the park in the first ten minutes he would have won midfield battle game over.

27 Mar 2020 19:46:51
Geez, why do so many of you guys get so easily wound up? He's entitled to his opinion, let him have his say. Of course he's wrong, about Gerrard, if he says he's not a legend. Gerrard definitely is. But if he means Gerrard was not the best player in LFC's history then he's right. In the top 10 of LFC's history? Definitely. Top 5? Maybe.

27 Mar 2020 23:25:13
I posted a couple of months back that Gerrard would get in the all-time Liverpool team. I'm not talking about his ability. But Steven Gerrard was finished once he became Stevie G.

Did none of you guys see the cringe-worthy interview he did with, of all people, Mourinho, when he retired? Can you imagine say, Robbie Fowler doing something similar with Alex Ferguson, because I can't. Fowler was all about the club and the team. Fowler is a legend. Dalglish is a legend. Gerrard should have been a legend but lost his way after Chelsea tried to sign him.

Anybody who celebrates a goal by screaming "I'm the f@#$%ing man" is an egotist. Pride is the worst of all sins and is usually followed by a fall, or a slip. Post 2005 he played like he was doing us all a favour by still being here. Shankley said "Ive drummed it into the players again and again how honoured they should feel to play for you (the fans) ".







 

 

 
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