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03 May 2020 13:25:05
Ed002, media suggesting today that it's the bottom six who are least in favour of neutral venues and even want relegation removed as a result.

You've eluded to similar reports, how true is it and his likely is it that they would scrap relegation if played at neutral grounds?

What happens if it's then possible to have crowds again later on 2020/ 21 season - surely we'd have a similar situation with teams being unhappy who missed out on home advantage when the first haf of next season is also played at neutral venues?

{Ed002's Note - It is not just the bottom six. One club has been very vocal and others agree. There is no discussion about "scrapping relegation" related to this. There is no immediate plan to use neutral venues for next season - but behind closed doors is a probability.}

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03 May 2020 13:36:21
Understood, thanks very much again Ed.

03 May 2020 14:52:01
If the neutral ground debate hits a crossroads between the clubs, would it likely be resolved in a vote or dissolve the restart project?

03 May 2020 16:05:11
I would imagine you will hear from a lot of players this week that are concerned about returning and eventually the season will be curtailed. There is no scenario for ending the season that will make everyone happy so it will be interesting to see what route is taken.
Ed I read today that many of the teams lower down the leagues are openly saying that if next season starts behind closed doors they won't be able to survive fanancialy and so there may not be any football in league 1 down until 2021. Is it possible that there is only prem and championship games next season?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot really help with the lower league teams and what they are saying but many obviously rely on gate-based income. Football needs to decide what sort of restructuring is required. Putting aside any "breakaway" or counter proposal, my fears have always been the vast number of professional clubs there are in England well below the Premier League. I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. Previously I have said that the eventual "breakaway pan-European league" would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Now we have a situation that will change the financial paradigm and may make clubs and authorities look at the situation with lower tier sides regardless.

Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting their finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have eventually gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good (it would be two or perhaps three initially) or even separation from the Premier League and Championship.

Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as amateurs or face extinction (yet again) like Bury. Recently Hartlepool has been struggling - again it needs to adapt. The mighty Third Lanark have started their long journey back to the top - it can be done. These are all proud clubs with a history.

The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so whether the supporters of certain clubs like it or not. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 8 to 10 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, St James Park, Stamford Bridge or wherever. Fans of the sides who take the plunge will have the opportunity to visit cities such as Milan, Barcelona, Munich, etc. every couple of weeks to watch their team play. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match through the grim, wet and cobbled streets of the Northwest of England where there is smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street and only chips and fried curry to eat., perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so the Liverpool and Everton supporters can go and watch them?

This will be a case of getting with the game. I will try to referred to this as the "Post Apocalyptic Zombie Scenario" from now on.}

03 May 2020 16:06:41
It seems strange one for me. You might lose home advantage, sure but you don't play away from home either, which is an advantage. If I was a bottom 6 club then I would use any leverage at my disposal to avoid relegation and the income they would lose.

{Ed002's Note - Itis not just the bottom six - two top six clubs are bleating about it as well.}

03 May 2020 16:49:57
I can see why there will be bleeting over every scenario. I'm sure Chelsea and Leicester would have no issue if the season ended now and they secure 3rd and 4th. if I was a Norwich fan I would want to avoid a restart unless Relegation was off the table as they are gonners. There's lots of "news" that's probably completely made up but if a resumption isn't backed then the season is curtailed and that leaves either PPG to decide all positions with Relegation and promotion. Roll back 1 full game week with promotion and Relegation. Draw a line with no Relegation or promotion. Or the German proposal that Ed 02 mentioned. There will be resistance to all of them so I have no idea how they navigate this and its probably why they are being so spineless in making a decision (along with the financial aspect) .

{Ed002's Note - Neither Chelsea nor Leicester are proposing or supporting ending the season now.}

03 May 2020 23:35:49
I'm sure Manchester United and Manchester City would have no issue if the season ended now . .

04 May 2020 21:17:06
Faith, not sure Utd want that cos they have a chance of making it into the top 4. A portion of their fans? Probably and the reasons are well, obvious.

05 May 2020 03:33:13
ed2 ruled out Chelsea and Leicester, I was just going through a process of elimination to get the 2 clubs lol.



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