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14 Sep 2020 10:14:57
There is much debate about why Klopp wants Thiago and how he fits in.

Did anybody else notice on Saturday though, that Klopp had a fully fit Fabinho who has no contract issues and has been training all pre-season with no international breaks (He was in every predicted line-up i saw anywhere) . Yet Klopp opted for Henderson and Wijnaldum.

Gini was away with the Netherlands all week and had a perceived contract issues, and Henderson who hadn't played a single minute in any friendly or international so either starting ahead of Fabinho was a surprise let alone both.

Klopp had words with Fabinho a few times in pre-season as well. So what if he wants Thiago to play where Fabinho plays? I'd be amazed personally as i think Fabinho is gravy, but has this thought crossed anybody elses mind?

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14 Sep 2020 10:26:06
So you mean after splashing £55 mill on Fabinho Klopp realizes he now needs someone who can pass a football from the deeper role. They are different players. Can they play together, Yes if and when you change the system to suit Mr. Thiago.
Fabinho was very poor of late and why he was dropped.

14 Sep 2020 10:25:38
I think Fab actually had a bit of a crap pre-season, he didn't play particularly well so was probably dropped for players who performed better.
Or just tactical.

Fab is one of the best DMs around so I doubt we're desperate for a replacement. I imagine Thiago would be to supplement rather than replace.

14 Sep 2020 10:35:51
Perhaps Fabinho had some headache in the morning coz stayed quite late at night because the kids couldn't go to sleep, and playing and stuffs, so Klopp decided maybe someone else is better to start than him coz he was clearly slightly tired and sleepy? Or perhaps it was purely tactical as Klopp felt Keita's fluidity might work more? There are too many possibilities, you can be really creative on this actually.

14 Sep 2020 10:38:31
Fabhino has been off the boil a while now it’s ok we can drop him as we’ve players too cover! Pitty we can’t do that with our front 3 or back 5 when they are off the boil!

14 Sep 2020 10:38:53
Thing is Tyrion, i think Fabinho can pass. He isn't as good as Thiago on the ball sure, but he's probably the slightly better tackler and far superior in the air. Thiago is arguably more mobile though.

I'm just a bit worried for Fabinho is all. From the outside looking in (and i might be reading way too much in to Fabinho just having a bad spell) it looks like Klopp maybe doesn't see him as an automatic starter going forward.

Fabinho was one of my favourite players even when he was at Monaco but Gini, Keita and Hendo all starting ahead of him on the opening day was strange. Maybe Klopp just thought we'd need more mobile players in to cope with Leeds' movement but Klopp absolutely ribbed Fabinho in the Blackpool friendly and hooked him at half time shortly after. He certainly doesn't seem 100% happy with him at this moment in time.

14 Sep 2020 11:05:57
If Thiago came in then the midfield 3 would look pretty much the same as it is now. Fabinho as the defensive player and Hendo and Thiago ahead of him.

14 Sep 2020 11:09:33
Horses for courses I think, a fab wiji hendo is a very workmanlike midfield that is ideal for the big sides however when playing teams that you may expect to sit back keita can offer a bit more of an attacking threat. The problem with playing Keita means you open us up in midfield and the defense can suffer.

14 Sep 2020 11:24:37
HMB, He may be having a difficult preseason so Klopp opted for other options. Where in here are you deducing all the stuff you just posted, man?

Also, where did you see or read that Klopp ribbed Fab vs Blackpool? I have not read anything of that nature anywhere? Fab may be off the boil cos he may still be having after effects of his injury or just having a difficult preseason which happens to players all the time.

Thankfully, Fab came on vs Leeds and stepped up big time and won the ball high up the pitch to keep the pressure on Leeds and it was his forward play that got him fouled for the winning goal via penalty. It is the beginning of the season after wa complicated preseason so you are going to have to be patient with all the players, Thiago or not.

14 Sep 2020 11:28:20
Yeah i don't think for one second Fabinho is in danger of being sold. Klopp has basically said he is the 4th choice centre back in emergencies. I just was really shocked that he was dropped despite all the preparations leading into the game favouring him.

14 Sep 2020 11:32:22
Harvey

I get your point. Fabinho lacks pace which is what you call mobility today. Your Busquets while Thiago is your Xavi. They are different in the way they are but there is only one space for either of the two in our system. If he comes in then we will play with a 2 men midfield.
Thiago simply cannot play LCM. if that is your intention then we are buying a wrong player.

14 Sep 2020 12:01:49
Klopp set us up to play without a holding midfielder, we struggled without one because hendo didn't seem quite fit and Keita refuses to track back. Nothing more to it than that, fabinho will start against Chelsea next week for sure.

14 Sep 2020 12:21:37
I think you're reading far too much into it HMB. The midfield are a big group and they will all get a run. We'll have a better indication after a dozen or so games. But what we do know is that Fabinho has been a key player over the last 2 seasons.

14 Sep 2020 14:04:53
Red Meister, i watched the game on the LFCtv app mate. Just before half time Klopp went mad at Fabinho and the subbed him off. I've not actually read about it anywhere to be honest as i think most missed it or just thought nothing of it.

I like Fabinho. This isn't me advocating him being dropped or replaced. I just thought it was very strange Klopp didn't start with him on Saturday. His absence might have worked in his favour though as we were porous without him.

14 Sep 2020 22:04:25
Klopp yells at everyone lol.

14 Sep 2020 22:05:51
HMB I'd advocate for Fabinho starting every game as he is the best in the squad at what he does. But for this game my guess is Klopp wanted a more dynamic box to box midfield in all positions to combat Leeds energy, maybe? But either way, I doubt it's to do with an issue of form or a mistake.







 

 

 
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