18 Oct 2020 11:40:24
Eds, can we assume that considering the Pickford incident was seen by Michael Oliver and not considered by the VAR that there will be no further disciplinary action from the FA?

Genuine queston, what do Liverpool hope to achieve by referring this matter to the FA for investigation?

{Ed002's Note - It will be nothing to do with The FA. Liverpool can ask the Premier League the question as to why Pickford's challenge did not result in a red card; and if answered it would likely drop in to the questionable area of whether or not Pickford was making a genuine attempt at playing the ball. There may well be a statement that after reviewing the footage that the VAR official should have gone back and looked for a possible red card - but I would think that might well be the best conclusion that can be expected.}

18 Oct 2020 12:19:57
if it were me, I would want an explanation of what happened in the decision-making. but to be honest, whatever they explain, even if they come out and say they made a mistake, it doesn't really tangibly help anything. just peace of mind to know what should have happened, if that is the case.

I feel sad for the whole situation and especially VVD.

18 Oct 2020 12:25:02
I fully agree, Ed02. That is the best case scenario, if they even comment on it at all.

18 Oct 2020 12:35:16
Thickford was making a genuine attempt for the ball but he was reckless and out of control.
The offside decision gave the officials an easy way out. If he'd punched- and probably missed- VVD, he'd have been sent off and that challenge was far worse.

18 Oct 2020 12:38:46
I just find it bizarre how VAR in England, got the most lucrative league in the world can get things so wrong!

The US and Australia both allow VAR to walk through the incident live to the fans and give an explanation of why they make a decision, none of this drawing lines on a screen in silence on a frame they hope is the closest whilst the rest of us work out what is going on.

18 Oct 2020 13:23:42
SR, VAR is no the problem. It is the way it is used in England. I mean, how can you say that an offside HAS to be black and white as a rule knowing full well that offside has NEVER been black and white? That is the height of the absurd. Had there been no VAR, the Hendo goal stands and NOBODY would have bat an eyelid. Even with VAR, the goal should have stood.

The issue here was that the rule says that you are either offside or onside hence, there is NO room for interpretation which is the foundation of officiating. On a play like that, the VAR should either be allowed to judge it or if it it is this close, the decision on the pitch stands as there is not enuff evidence to overturn it or have the ref go look at it instead of trying to create a situation out of absolutely nothing, IMO. This is my issue.

What makes it even worse is that, the VAR mysteriously does not inform the ref of the VVD incident BUT was very willing to work triple overtime just to find an offside situation where there was by many accounts, none to be found. Go figure.

18 Oct 2020 13:27:21
Thanks Ed02. I assumed as much.

18 Oct 2020 15:11:02
I'm seriously considering stopping watching until VAR stops ruining games. The whole thing is a joke.

18 Oct 2020 17:04:54
Not to mention the VAR line used to rule out Hendo's winner clearly not being parallel with the line of the area.

{Ed002's Note - These little VAR things happen every week - try and stop whining about them.}

19 Oct 2020 18:46:06
That's the point. they happen every week. That means there are poor decisions every week that affect teams and not just us. It's a disgrace. Should be stopped until they can use it properly.