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15 Feb 2021 22:02:27
When VVD got assaulted and it became clear that he was not going to be available for a long time, I think that nearly everybody thought that we would not be having a good season.
Miraculously we were top of the league on Christmas day, however there was only about 6 points between top and 10th.
We are still in that place (no VVD) and he gives us 20-25 points per season.
If we do finish top 4 we will have had a good season.
2021=2022 will be a better one.
YNWA.

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15 Feb 2021 23:09:43
Assaulted 😂.

{Ed047's Note - a similar Kung fu style lunge to Cantona’s into the crowd all those years ago. 🤷‍♂️

16 Feb 2021 00:19:42
20-25? Think 10 is more realistic, but how to quantify such a thing? I guess you look at the instant impact he made, the average of points gained when he plays etc. But, it's hard to determine the confidence he gives the rest of the team. I'm sure someone can provide solid statistics to illustrate the point, but statistics are useless, 73% of all people know that.

16 Feb 2021 07:02:31
Well Stand-United, how else would you describe a knee high challenge with absolutely no intent to play the ball? Just like Roy Keane did to Haaland all those years back.

16 Feb 2021 07:46:16
6times it was a bad challenge yes, but the way some on here are still going on about an “assault” on here is embarrassing, like none of your players have ever made reckless challenges before.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair Stand, the consequences of the challenge are still being felt, so it is difficult to just forget about it and move on. Especially when you consider the ill-feeling caused by the referee not even considering it a foul and the VAR ludicrously agreeing with him. It is one thing to make a reckless challenge, but you expect to see a red when one of your players do so and, when it is in the box, concede a penalty. Instead Liverpool were deprived of their best defender for the season and it could be argued that it cost them 2 points in that game as well.}

16 Feb 2021 09:31:22
Pickford did a similar challenge on Mandzukic in the WC semi final.
Plank. He should have been banned for that.
Highly dangerous and totally stupid.
If that was a tackle anywhere on the pitch it would be a red card.

16 Feb 2021 12:24:09
Stand-United, Ed01 is spot on. Players make reckless challenges and even they expect to be punished for it by the officials. Had any of our players done that, I would fully expect the book to be thrown at him based on the laws on the books. That is not the issue.

What pissed people off even more and Klopp said it at the time, was that we all saw what happened. The refs and VAR saw what happened and NOTHING was done about it. The culprit got off scott-free and got to play the next game w/ o being duly punished for his reckless act on the field. That is the problem and I'm pretty sure that if that had happened to one of your players, you would not "stand" (pun intended, lol) for that either.

16 Feb 2021 12:50:12
Stand United if it was one your best players and they had been put out for the season you’d be saying the same thing. Hypercritical, pathetic, typical Manx.

16 Feb 2021 12:13:15
Bang on Ed and what makes even more difficult to swallow is when you see some of the other penalties and red cards that have been given this season.
We’ve got players going over under minimal contact and some even falling over their own feet but because there’s ‘contact’ it’s given. Pickford nearly rips Virgil in half and nothing.
It seems to be the way of it since VAR was introduced. The only consistent thing about it is it’s inconsistency.

{Ed001's Note - it is run by morons who do not understand the game sadly. Nice to see Wenger has said the same as I have been, as he is the guy making the decisions now, and saying that VAR should not be manned by refs but by specifically trained VAR operators.}

16 Feb 2021 13:23:51
Well said ED001, and potentially it conceded the title too!

16 Feb 2021 14:32:15
Wenger is 100% correct, and you are to Eds. You don't have Pilots or Cabin Crew working in Air Traffic and vice versa. Whilst VAR is inherently less complex than transport systems (although by looking at how the refs are using it you might think twice), it's still a technical system. Referees aren't trained to use a technical system, they're trained to officiate football. I'm not saying it's beyond them to learn, but you should either be a ref or a specially trained operator.

16 Feb 2021 15:56:20
Everyone knows it was a bad challenge, everyone knows VAR is rubbish. But wallowing in self pity over it doesn’t nothing for anyone. Move on, get over it and deal with the situation would be a better idea IMO.

{Ed001's Note - no one is wallowing in self-pity, the suggestion is offensive quite frankly. It is quite the opposite. People are pointing out that there is no need to get too worried about the team's form as it will improve and that there are good reasons for the struggle. It is more about saying to just accept what is going on now as a consequence of the injuries and looking forward to next season.}

16 Feb 2021 16:13:36
Absolutely Ed. I know you’ve said from the start that the refs should not be running VAR and you’ve been proved correct.
Leicester’s first goal on Saturday was another example of the VAR not knowing how to use the system. The guy has gone of a shadow produced by Bobby’s foot rather than his foot and has gone off the attacker’s shoulder rather than his sleeve. On top of that his knee was further forward than his sleeve anyway but was ignored. When you look at that again it’s hard not to think he’s manufactured on onside decision from an offside situation.
The reality is probably just that he isn’t that clever.

{Ed001's Note - agreed.}







 

 

 
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