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03 Aug 2021 17:21:34
Hi Eds thanks for all the work you do. I thought I would give you a break from all the transfer questions and bring up a the new changes to VAR.

Here is what Mike Riley had to say about penalties:

"So, the principles we've established are referees should look for contact, and establish clear contact, then ask themselves the does question 'does that contact have a consequence? '. And then ask themselves the question 'has the player used that contact to actually try and win a penalty?"



I think these are obviously good ideas to eliminate soft penalties, but you introduce to variables that are subject to opinions and I imagine we are still going to get inconsistent and silly penalty decisions from refs. I think there does need to be more criteria to think about.

Does the attacking player have the ball under control?
Is the player moving away or towards the goal?
Is the player in a goal scoring position or likely to lead to a goal scoring opportunity?


There are other things, but I can not think of them, since it is to early. I remember the penalty Robbo gave away against Brighton, there was definite contact. But was Danny Welbeck in any of those positions. I found this penalty pretty frustrating from what I remember. I think this rule should hopeful help us this season as we gave away a number of soft penalties.

Also the offside lines getting widened should hopefully help us as well as again we seemed to have a few goals chalked off for minor toenail offsides. It would be interesting if anyone has stats for goals disallowed for Liverpool and against Liverpool with VAR.

And Harry Kane type fouls will be given against the attacker (backing into defender then falling over) .

Or then again all these things could even themselves out and not effect us at all. Do you think us or our rivals will be effected majorly by any of these changes?

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03 Aug 2021 18:40:20
Kane and Grealish should cost less now.

03 Aug 2021 18:45:18
Until we get the actual standard of refs sorted in this country no rule change will help anything. The difference between what we see in the league and what we see in European competitions or the euros is frightening.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

03 Aug 2021 19:23:52
I would love to be able to utilise european refs in the PL not all are great but they would improve the standard for sure. A league system could also work both teams rate the ref after the game from 1-3 points relegate and promote through the leagues.

03 Aug 2021 20:47:45
Spot on, Hijkle. They are trying to put lipstick on a pig by tweaking the VAR rules instead of fixing the main issue as in, the rank incompetence of PL refs. I’m not buying it cos even if the tweaks are done in good faith, if you have incompetent officials executing the new rules, the outcome will be the same: A complete ship show.

03 Aug 2021 23:21:51
It's still positive if they are trying to reduce the number of soft penalties. In terms of the additional questions I think it would be over complicating it and wouldn't help. I'll explain why I think so anyway:

Does the attacking player have the ball under control? - a foul is a foul even if the attacker is just running towards the ball.

Is the player moving away or towards the goal? - again not sure how that's relevant as the lines of the box are what matter, if you push someone over for example in the box with them running towards the corner flag then it's foolish defending and still a penalty.

Is the player in a goal scoring position or likely to lead to a goal scoring opportunity. - again, the lines of the box are what is relevant.

All in all, they are trying to improve so I for one am happy with that, not expecting everything to be solved/ fixed at any stage but improvement would be good.







 

 

 
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