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23 Aug 2021 09:43:50
Ed001,

Would you stick with Matip for Chelsea or bring in Konate. This is in no way a slight on Joel, I think he's been great, but we all know that Lukaku is going to use this size a strength and would a bit of extra size and muscle to deal with him be idea i. e if we have it, why not use it?

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't change it personally, Matip has done well enough to deserve his place and making a change now could upset the rhythm.}

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23 Aug 2021 10:32:17
If it’s not broke then don’t fix it.

23 Aug 2021 10:59:08
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome john.}

23 Aug 2021 11:08:55
Agree that there's no need to make changes in defence as they will have massively benefitted from the workout at the weekend.

I hope that this time we do not give Jorginho the freedom of the pitch (reminds me of Kroos in Real away game) . Might be a justification to bring Bobby in there even if harsh on Jota.

The positions that Mount and Havertz pick up will mean our midfield will have to be disciplined.

Granted, Fabinho was playing in defence alongside Kabak and Hendo was out injured at the time in the previous game.

Mane and Salah are a different proposition to last season so Azpe and Rudiger won't be as comfortable this time.

It should be a cracker of a game.

23 Aug 2021 11:16:39
People are going on about Lukaku and Van Dijk battling but, as John says, the Chelsea man will probably look to play on Matip.
Our full backs need to be careful here, stay tucked in, and play that boring B Tuchel at his own game.
Don’t want to be going one down to Chelsea.

23 Aug 2021 11:22:18
Lukaku is probably going to try and stay away from van Dijk and target our right sided center back as much as possible. Whilst Konate has more upper body strength than Matip, I'd go with Matip for his superior experience. I think overall he'll handle it better by knowing when to engage Lukaku in a wrestling match and when to just let him have it.

Jota v Bobby is the more interesting question. I'd go Bobby because Jota through the middle is effectively just a poacher. He comes alive in the box, but doesn't do a whole lot otherwise. That's going to be fine in some games, but Chelsea isn't one of them imo. I think Bobby's superior work rate, movement and greater willingness to get involved in the build up play will offset the loss of Jota's superior goal threat. As Pelican says, he could also be useful in restricting Jorginho.

23 Aug 2021 11:31:18
I'd bring Bobby on for first 75, simply because he's more productive off the ball than Jota. No discredit to Jota mind, he's been excellent since he joined.

23 Aug 2021 11:34:26
I think a midfield of hendo fab and thiago tops whatever midfield 3 they play. We all know lukaku is going to try and bully matip but matip did well enough against the dirtiness of Barnes and him and virgil have a good partnership. Bringing in konate to form a new partnership in such an important game would be a bad idea for me.

23 Aug 2021 11:43:37
Think we will beat Chelsea this weekend.

If we have Fabinho back in midfield alongside Hendo then maybe Thiago with Bobby Sadio and Mo up top we will be fine.

23 Aug 2021 11:59:09
Jota can beat a player which makes a massive difference, Firmino can’t. I don’t agree Firmino has better work rate either. He did 3 years ago but not now. Jota is getting our most important goals and you might only get a couple of chances v Chelsea and by a million miles Jota is the man to take the chances.

{Ed025's Note - im with you mark..

23 Aug 2021 12:17:20
It'll be interesting to see Tsimikas face Reece James (if Robertson doesn't start) . James did a number on Tierney all game long at Arsenal, so I'd love to see James' play when seeing the scowling Tsimikas coming for him.

23 Aug 2021 12:02:30
Lukaku's last goal against Liverpool was in 2015. I think he has had a fair few shut outs against us since. If he couldn't score or bully lesser CBs we used to have then I'm pretty confident Vvd and Matip will be fine.

{Ed025's Note - the only thing thats bothering me irish is that virgil may be a bit sensitive after his injury and matip is made of glass as we all know, so even though the german whinger has already got his cries in about rough treatment of his snowflakes romelu could reek havoc mate..

23 Aug 2021 12:41:58
That's my main concern ed025. I don't want to see Joel getting injured having to try and cope with that man mountain so just neutralise him by using a guy just as big ans as strong as him. Just take him out of the game completely.

{Ed025's Note - you may need a sniper and a grassy knoll for that john mate.. :)

23 Aug 2021 12:51:53
Well they do reckon that Kennedy was killed by French assassins, we should just use ours.

{Ed025's Note - you could always get bobby to smile them to death john.. :)

23 Aug 2021 12:59:14
I’m not bothered with VVD nor Matip. Pretty sure Klopp was playing him all this time to get him ready for this game and for me, it is NO game to be throwing in a rookie like Konate in there especially if you don’t have to. That’s just me. Play the guys you have and NEVER change a winning team. The last time Klopp did that, he changed Thiago for Keita for Madrid away last season after he bossed Arsenal off the pitch on their patch, for the disaster we all know of so why are people asking him to do that again?

And by the way, Matip has dealt with Lukaku before and shut him down easily (you can add Aguero, Suarez, Lewandowski, Kane, Diego Costa and oh, that Messi dude to his rap sheet of victims) so what would change? Even Sloveen and Sakho shut Lukaku up in the so again, what’s the problem? If you’re scared then don’t watch the game. It’s that simple.

{Ed025's Note - im sure you will be one of the many oli...hiding behind the couch watching the game through your fingers..

23 Aug 2021 13:36:00
Personally think cutting off the supply to Lukaku is more critical than which centre backs play against him. With our pressing game and the positional awareness of Hendo/ Fab I can see him feeding off scraps. Certainly shouldn't be having 30 yard passes rolled into his feet on the edge of the box the way he did against Arsenal.

23 Aug 2021 13:49:39
He bullied Lovren and Fabs when he played for Man U. But I am very confident Chelsea won’t be able to handle us going forward.

23 Aug 2021 14:11:40
In fairness, Larry Grayson could bully Lovren and Fabinho isn’t a centre back. Matip handled Diego ‘Mongo’ Costa pretty well and I think Lukaku isn’t much difference physically.

{Ed025's Note - lukakaku makes costa look like larry mate..

23 Aug 2021 14:34:12
Yes VVD is back from a bad injury and matip is knowing for injuries but it isn't the ufc lukaku isn't trying to injury players ask matip and VVD how they feel and they will both be eager to start and deal with the return of lukaku and if they don't Allison's no mug

Just need to be bang at it and hopefully get fabinho in front of them will be a massive help

Fabinho will snif around his first touch and hopefully he has a day where its not great as its not excatly his strength

The midfield is important against Chelsea are fabinho thaigo and hendo 100% ready for this type of game after not playing yet.

{Ed025's Note - thats the $64,000 question dezy..

23 Aug 2021 15:39:59
You stop Lukaku right from the attack and midfield, so this would be Bobby and Fabinho's game. But I won't touch the back four at all until after the international break. Play Fabinho, Hendo and NabyLad in the middle; Jota in for Bobby around 70 minutes in.

25 Aug 2021 07:49:08
Mark, not true. Lovren shut Lukaku down when we blew out Everton 4-0 in 2016. Shut him down in both games vs Everton in 16/ 17. As for Fab, when did that happen cos Fab never played CB for us till last season and Lukaku was at Inter? So again, you are making up stuff.







 

 

 
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