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08 Oct 2021 09:26:55
Right ed002 I'm going to cut to the chase, when is mukesh ambani buying liverpool. 🤣🤣🤣.

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08 Oct 2021 09:37:23
Whatever you think about our current owners, I would suggest a quiet thanks that we haven’t got the new owners of Newcastle anywhere near us. Sports washing at its most unpalatable and odious.

{Ed002's Note - I am afraid to say that many Liverpool fans crave Arab owners and have done for years.}

08 Oct 2021 12:46:00
I spent a number of years in the Middle East and was even based in Saudi (Al Khobar) for a good period. My main client while I was out there was PIF and a number of other government backed entities. PIF are very much controlled by MBS and the Saudi government and anyone who says otherwise is not correct.

Big thing for me that really struck a cord on how strict the government can be while out there was that they would publish who was going to be executed that week in the local newspapers.

Red Sandman.

{Ed002's Note - The issue is not about the Saudi Government and PIF, but the the Saudi Government and the Consortium (which includes PIF).}

08 Oct 2021 12:55:45
Would take whoever has money and will spend it on the squad, a £200 mill summer spree without having to sell sounds exactly like what we have needed for a while, don't see the problem with rich owners.

08 Oct 2021 14:15:16
Despite what Shanks said, there are more important things than football - barbaric dictatorships are a matter of life and death to those who stand up to them. In that respect I completely disagree with you LancasterRed; sport without morals is no sport at all.

08 Oct 2021 14:19:32
I don't see a problem with rich owners either, we'd all be chuffed if it happened to us. It is what it is, a sign of the times. Yes there's far too much money in football but football is no longer a sport, it's a business, an investment. They aren't the first and certainly won't be the last, these rich billionaires aren't stupid, investing in the premier League is nothing short of golden, good for them.

08 Oct 2021 14:55:06
I agree Salah we would have preferred it if mega rich questionable owners haven’t become common place. But they are here to stay and at some point in the not too distant future it will be needs must. If City or Chelsea win the league no one will care who the owners are, just that they won it.

08 Oct 2021 15:06:22
I think it may be a bit hypocritical to say that mega rich owners with questionable backgrounds are what the club needs. FSG are business men who tried to get the club in a position to buy with out selling by taking them into the Super League. Which would have generated bags of income from streaming rights. But FSG were crucified for this, but Saudi ownership is spot on. This is the regime who murders journalists
Matt in FL.

08 Oct 2021 15:52:59
I feel like my brain has devolved a little reading this thread. Surely wr can distinguosh between rich owners and rich owners who have direct links to beach of human rights? And I'm not saying these guys do cos I don't actually know, but the definition of rich being the same as withoit morals isn't the same here.

08 Oct 2021 15:57:16
If we lived in a perfect world, obviously it would matter where the money came from, but, we don't, these countries in the Middle East and places like China don't really care about human nature like we do, takeovers like this are going to happen no matter how many hippies shout out or protest about it, money is money, and big money owners in football is king, maybe glue your self to St James Park in protest like these weapons are doing on the motorways, ha, but i'd give a left nut for Chelsea, City, PSG or Newcastle owners because like them or not, they are also business men, more so than FSG, that's why they have their wealth and they don't accept failure, so i don't get why these type of owners are looked upon as using clubs as play things, they want success more than anyone and are good owners to have.

08 Oct 2021 16:16:01
Accepting money from such dubious sources, knowingly or not, to support yourself or your family is one thing but to sell out our club with its history and traditions for the chance of signing an overpaid foreign player or two is a completely different moral kettle of fish and anyone suggesting it should be ashamed of themselves.

08 Oct 2021 16:28:42
These new owners are going to invest in the whole area. Jobs will be created etc that must be a good thing.

08 Oct 2021 16:48:31
Morals at highest level goes out of the window.

How many fans wanted Klopp to be sacked after continuous tapping players?

How many fans refused to go to Anfield after neighbouring homes were destroyed and forcefully underpaid to extend the ground?

I can go on and on, it seems people are happy to pick and choose what suits them lol.

08 Oct 2021 16:55:43
Comparing tapping up players to ordering the murder of a journalist, I've read it all now. Absolutely despicable that any of you are saying it's ok to turn a blind eye to this kind of behaviour. I actually can't believe what I have just read on here.

08 Oct 2021 17:00:06
Kopforever I’m not going to codone the things you state but please don’t try to compare tapping up players to a murderous regime that executes and silences 1,000s of human beings because they disagree with them. Get a grip.

08 Oct 2021 17:07:41
Imagine comparing tapping up players to be beheading people and murdering journalists. It appears some people would sell their soul for some success at what is ultimately just a game.

08 Oct 2021 17:09:03
Tapping up players compared to what goes on in Saudi Arabia? Jesus Christ now i have heard it all😆. This site attracts some nutjobs.

08 Oct 2021 17:12:47
You don’t have to like the owners to support the team. You have probably all supported footballers, singers, film stars etc who are utter horrible human beings. I want to watch winning, entertaining football. We will all be dead soon anyway.

08 Oct 2021 17:37:05
I don't want to win when you can literally buy ANY player, wheres the challenge in that? We have a manager now who builds a squad despite not having a bottomless pit and i love doing it that way, the way its meant to be. We have won 1 league title in 30 years and i have been perfectly happy supporting this club all that time.

08 Oct 2021 17:18:34
And some people sooner than they should be because of this regime that are coming in to own Newcastle. You’re a piece of work if you think that’s behaviour that can be ignored. I loved lost prophets when I was younger, when I heard what Ian Watkins did, I vouched never to listen to them again.

08 Oct 2021 17:43:29
I would rather see the team relegated and playing in the championship with the fans as owners than sell our souls and the team values for that kind of money. Liverpool is supposed to stand for something more than the game. It is the reason the team is special. I would rather go the Klopp direction and build within our means than splash cash on mercenaries and win every year. It is not special for City when they win the league, it is expected: anything less is a failure. Where is the fun or excitement in that? It is a shame that so many fans are willing to forget where the team comes from for a little taste of instant and unearned gratification.

08 Oct 2021 18:31:15
I wasn't comparing the situation, I hardly care what happens at City, Chelsea, Newcastle etc

Thanks guys for proving my point, as I said it depends what suits you then just taking stand on purely based on Morals.

Btw had no idea it was ok to force elders and young children's out of their house forcefully to just extend the stadium 👍.

08 Oct 2021 18:39:57
Anyone thinking that anyone is paying close to 2bn for us when the likes of Newcastle are available for 1/ 6 of that then your going to be very disappointed. If only we had billionaire owners 🤔, oh wait we do they're just tight😁.

08 Oct 2021 18:49:06
I daresay Abramovich has personally put people in the ground, but it doesn't bother Chelsea fans. The UAE (City's owners) and Shinawatra before them, have extremely poor records in relation to human rights - extrajudicial killings; suppressing insurgencies; failure to investigate allegations of torture; abuse of migrant workers; suppressing women's rights.

City fans turned a blind eye because the UAE is so far removed from any of their lives, it doesn't matter to them. The fact that people live and die at the hands of Mansour, doesn't matter to most because instant gratification was at hand with City becoming the powerhouse they are now.

It would be difficult and break my heart, but if LFC were bought by such people, I would have to jack it in. I know the World has changed - not for the better I believe - but think of what football means to you and should mean - winning fairly; competition; heart and soul.
It is just a business now and people like you and me are taken for a ride because of our passion. I go to the match when I can to do what I can for the team, but I don't buy kits (haven't since 1998), I don't subscribe to LFC TV. At its heart, footie is a game, followed by partisan people ( it doesn't really matter where you come from) but the soul is being ripped out by filthy rich people, with no clue about what the game means as a whole, or to its fans. All they want is your money to add to their already vast wealth.

08 Oct 2021 18:59:16
Lancaster red you are talking rubbish. These Shahs etc inherited titles and lands that happened to have crude oil under them. FSG bought a company that was mess, in LFC, for I think a reported 350 million and have turned it into a company worth billions - that's business management. Also by the tone of your right wing views you should find another team to support!

08 Oct 2021 19:32:35
kopforever, no one is saying Liverpool's owners are perfect but unless John Henry starts ordering hits on people I will continue to hold them in higher regard than the Newcastle owners no matter how much money they pump into the club.
Most people draw the line at murder, clearly you do not.

08 Oct 2021 19:43:34
Spot on Port red mate, no billionaire is going to spend 2B plus and top of it spend billions on us lol

Think Club such as us shouldn't need billionaire to compete, just like UTD. Think FSG have Failed in-terms of Marketing, Sponsors etc etc.

08 Oct 2021 20:19:59
Thunderbird it has nothing to do with FSG or owners at Newcastle.

I just hate hypocrisy, if today you've got balls to stand on Moral high ground, where were you and fans when elders and infants were being forcefully thrown out of their own homes?

08 Oct 2021 22:21:43
I love the club and I love the game. I love it when we take on the best and they put out the best they have and we beat them. However I don’t mind if we give it our best shot but come up short - I watch the game and support the best ClUB in the GAME because of what the game is to so many people and what the club stands for.

So, as much as the game means to me it is absolutely, totally irrelevant when compared to human suffering. With my hand on my heart and looking you all straight in the eye, I would not support the club being owned by owners who were complicit in the infringement of human rights. Football is a game, restricting, ignoring ot removing people’s basic human rights should not be tolerated in anyway.

09 Oct 2021 04:34:58
Calm down, calm down. lol wirraldean, please don't start talking politics and saying that you must be from a particular party if you want to support liverpool. Hate that sort of thing and makes zero sense.

09 Oct 2021 09:18:25
I find it funny how much this takeover is causing such a stir. I mean obviously I completely understand why but surely this just highlights the major flaws in the capitalist society we live in. It seems odd that people are calling this out but are probably wearing clothes made in sweatshops or using a phone that will have had components made by slaves or going on holiday to countries with awful human rights records and a lack of equality. Unfortunately this is the world we live in and to some degree are all guilty of buying in to. It's not right but it also shouldn't be a surprise.

09 Oct 2021 10:25:19
Yes, kopforever. We have balls and we stand on the high morals. Ostensibly, you have neither. And stop whining endlessly about displaced people as if (you actually care, and) they were thrown out on the street. There must have been clear compensation that they agreed to. Or are you not aware of the laws in the country.

09 Oct 2021 13:40:36
I'm aware ArAY hence they were speaking on SKY including older LFC fans how they were underpaid and were force to leave their own homes lol

It seems at that time your balls were wrapped under Stadium extension rather then taking moral high ground😏.

09 Oct 2021 19:00:08
It’s not hypocrisy to compare people being displaced with people being murdered differently. Both are bad but one is far worse than the other.

09 Oct 2021 19:55:55
I'm not denying, neither comparing or even defending like you.

Where were your morals or voice for older people and infants when they were forcefully being pushed out of their homes? *That's clearly hypocrisy which i absolutely hate it*.

09 Oct 2021 23:52:37
I didn’t even have an account on here when that was happening. I have said multiple times that FSG aren’t perfect and have done multiple bad things but they don’t come close to the Newcastle ownership. In your mind tapping up players is the same as murdering people, that’s messed up. You just seem intent on defending them no matter what.

10 Oct 2021 09:03:17
Again you're barking at wrong tree and just keep on proving my point.

I don't like hypocrite like you who defend "tapping up players, adults and infants being thrown out from their own homes by saying it's "not worse so let's turn out blind eye" coz at that time no one complained here but infact abused Ed2 in numbers for calling out LFC regime now all of a sudden let's take moral high ground despite it has nothing to do with us. I hardly Care what happens at Newcastle, Chelsea or City etc but I don't hesitate calling out hypocrisy here.

I still haven't forgotten how LFC fans were literally praying "yes literally praying here for regime's like Saudis, etc to come and bail us out when we were close to go bust during Hicks and Gillett time lol.

11 Oct 2021 09:23:40
Wirral you have zero idea what my views are and certainly don't have any right to judge who can and can't support the team, you need to wake up and realize the world is never going to be at peace or perfect, as long as humans are around there will be constant conflict, greed etc etc, we just pray that the ones with the good keep on top, football is about money now and trophies, high morals don't get you anything, working hard gets you so far, and our owners forced out people from their homes to build that stand so not completely saintly, clubs need big backing to go forward, we are missing out on 3/ 4 titles by not getting the required quality, many peoples opinions too so if you don't like it that's your problem to deal with, not mine.



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