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07 Jul 2022 20:42:38
Evening EDs

Fantastic news that Gomez has signed a new 5 year contract today but do you think klopp has maybe not been as convinced by konate as he would have hoped and what is your opinion on him as I'm on the fence with him, big strong and quite quick but gives me a mamadou sakho vibe sometimes ?.

{Ed001's Note - he is just learning the role, he mostly played in a back 3 before and it is a bigger adjustment going from 3 to 4 than it is to go the other way. I don't think he was helped by being rotated so much, he needed a decent run of games to settle in properly. He never got that. I am sure he will be fine once he gets one. And at least he heads the ball in the direction he wants most of the time, Sakho it was just random where it went.}

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07 Jul 2022 21:30:36
Hope your right Ed001 he does have all the right ingredients to be a cracking defender so hope it goes that way for us ? ?.

07 Jul 2022 21:52:19
I thought he did quite well in the main. He did have the odd brain fart but as far as a debut season and learning new players etc Konate was good. I think for the money he was a real find, big strong, imposing, fast defender. Given another year or two he will be some player.

07 Jul 2022 22:32:00
Hopefully VVD has a few good years left in him and one of Gomez, konate or matip will continue to partner him. When his time comes, is there the feeling that Gomez and konate are good enough to continue without future additions?

07 Jul 2022 22:39:00
Agree Irish I thought he had a very good debut season.

{Ed0666's Note - who Konate??

07 Jul 2022 23:03:20
I thought he had a couple of decent performances….

07 Jul 2022 23:40:19
Only on the lamosing side once all season.

07 Jul 2022 23:55:05
VVD will be 30 soon and Liverpool fans will start freaking out that his legs will fall off. So its great news to have tied Gomez down for when this happens.

07 Jul 2022 22:57:55
Ed0666 yes mate. 29 appearances 3 goals 1
Assist and suffered his first defeat in the final game of the season.

As far as Debut seasons go you can’t really fault it. Lots to work on but plenty of foundation there for him to build on.

{Ed0666's Note - Or he was carried by Virgil? The jury is out for me. But I’ll give him time and reserve judgement

08 Jul 2022 00:37:06
To be fair to Konate. He was our best player in the CL final.

08 Jul 2022 07:31:56
Konate is still a young lad really, in a monster body, lol.
I thought he did well, and he’ll only get better with experience.
Great news about Gomez too, he is a Liverpool player through and through.
Class act.

08 Jul 2022 08:03:02
I don't think Virgil was at his best last season to be carrying anyone. He certainly wasn't the Rolls Royce of a player of the previous seasons Ed666.

{Ed0666's Note - generally he was streets ahead of Konate mate.

08 Jul 2022 08:27:48
Ed0666 that would mean at times last season we played games with only 8 men seeing as Naby, Jota and Konate didn’t contribute, were carried or just plain crap lol.

Klopp reinventing football with 5 subs and only starting 8 players ?

But seriously on Konate only time will tell though I suppose mate.

Faith I don’t think Vvd will be 30 anytime soon. Amazingly it’s his bday today and he’s 31. Probably time to sell him as his legs have now gone and he’ll need an old peoples retirement home soon.

{Ed0666's Note - imagine what we would have won with 11 players mate ?

08 Jul 2022 09:47:14
Ed666, chill bro. Of course, the jury is still out on him even tho, I think he had a good season after being rotated a lot which cannot help him bed into a system that is very difficult to play in as a CB esp coming from a system where he was laying in a back 3, as ED01 alluded to.

Also, I think you make it sound like him being carried by VVD is somehow a bad thing. Konate is supposed to be carried by VVD cos he just got here and is learning how to play in a back 4. What were you expecting esp. under such circumstances? That he carry VVD or outplay him? Again, a bit too harsh, man. Let the kid grow and judge him in a couple of years, me thinks.

{Ed0666's Note - absolute bunkum. Why is Konate supposed to be carried by Virgil? Was Elliot carried by Fab? Milner? Keita? Thiago or Henderson when he broke into the side? Absolutely not he was regularly playing very good football and was their on merit.. in my opinion he wasn’t as good as Gomez on his day so hence my candid opinion. I’m not saying he won’t get better I’m just saying it how I see it and if you think differently that’s your prerogative and you’re welcome to it.

08 Jul 2022 11:08:48
Konate and Gomez is going to be our centre back pairing once big Virg is out of the picture.

What other team can boast having 4 quality centre backs? we are very lucky indeed.

08 Jul 2022 12:27:23
Ed Elliot played 2 and a half games when he broke into the side and then had that horrible injury.

I really really hope Elliot fulfils this potential we are told about but I really feel like I am watching football in another dimension because the way some fans talk about how well he did when he broke into the team I feel like I’ve missed a full premier league season where he was running the show for 38 premier league games.

{Ed0666's Note - 2 games or 200 games Harvey didn’t need anyone carrying him. Look mate you clearly think Konate is a baller and I don’t. It’s just a difference of opinion. He may turn into a magnificent defender and I hope he does but I’m just commenting on what I saw and for me he doesent get in the team in front of Gomez. Is that so hard for people to stomach? What am I supposed to do jump on a bandwagon that I don’t agree with? I’m not saying I’m correct in my assessment I’m just saying he’s no Franco Baresi as yet.

08 Jul 2022 17:05:06
Shhhh JK, you're making too much sense mate ?.

08 Jul 2022 16:47:43
Ed0666 I’m not arguing with you mate. I thought we were merely having a discussion over it and I’m not saying I am right and you are wrong.

I’m a also a big fan of Gomez and I also think Matip has been an unsung hero for us. Whoever Klopp picks at the back to partner VVd gets my backing.

{Ed0666's Note - it’s always a discussion with me mate I stopped arguing years ago it’s really not with the hassle. I love Matip I think he’s the type of player the squad needs for his professionalism and personality. I truly hope he is a red for a while but I can see him moving next season.

08 Jul 2022 18:30:38
Ed666, your comparison (s) is false at near all levels here. How long has Elliott been part of the squad? This is his 4th season and this is Konate’s first in a new country under a new system so there goes that comparison easily debunked. Secondly, comparing him to Gomez in his pump (Gomez is 25 and played LB in his first season, btw) is just mad esp as Gomez has been here 3/ 4 years before he became brilliant. Again, apples to pineapples here, bro. As they say in France, “Compare what’s comparable”.

Secondly, you say that Elliott was not carried by Fab. How do you know that? How do you know the prep work that went into those games in terms of Fab, Salah, Trent or Hendo keeping an eye on/ talking him to make sure he is not bullied or overrun? If u have proof then, awesome. If you don’t then, that’s just a strong hunch/ opinion which is just that.

All in all, not here to argue every point (even tho I enjoyed the debate) . You think the jury is out on Konate and I agree however you’re doing too much trying to convince me that he had an average season which is your opinion which I disagree with BUT your comparisons are too unnecessary and wild to prove your point, IMO. Peace and Love.

{Ed0666's Note - You’re debunking nothing mate, please know this and I mean this with the greatest of respect. Your retorts/advocacy don’t have much basis and frankly you can do better Oli. Elliot has been part of the first team squad for four years? Am I missing something? Why wouldn’t I compare Konate to Gomez wasnt Konate a starting central defender for Leipzig when fit thus gaining experience. Surely we didn’t pay £36 miliion GBP for an apprentice? It’s not apples to pineapples brother it’s apples to apples. If we buy a player for the matchday squad he has to be ready to perform from day 1 regardless of price tag status or lack of it.

Do you have proof that Fab, Hendo, Salah, Trent etc did carry Harvey? If not then yours is a ‘strong hunch/opinion.

Furthermore I’m not trying to convince you ‘too much’ that Konate had an average season at all. I merely gave a converse opinion to yours. Believe me mate I left my ego at the door years ago and will gladly admit if I’m wrong.

08 Jul 2022 19:18:40
Ed0666 that’s good to hear mate. Without sounding like I’m trying to suck up I think you’re a great addition to this already fantastic site.

{Ed0666's Note - Thabks mate I appreciate the kind sentiments. Happy weekend.

09 Jul 2022 08:21:17
Ed666, no problem. Like I said, not trying to argue every point. We have a diff of opinion. It’s all good and it was a good debate. Have a nice weekend as well.

{Ed0666's Note - yes mate you also have a terrific weekend and it’s all love brother it can’t be nothing else in this current climate.

10 Jul 2022 08:54:45
Yeah, man. Nuff Respect, for sure!







 

 

 
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