07 Jul 2024 14:28:02
Trent has been used as a scapegoat all tournament. He played twice both times subbed with 25 to go having played no better or worse than any other player on the pitch. He's the most naturally gifted full back this country has ever had going foward, not a one can pass, cross, take set pieces loke he can, all be it he's not the best defender but certai ly not the worst. Southgate sends the lad on with 5 mins left of extra time, he goes in to the penalty shootout cold and then slots in the 5th pen. That is a big F U to Southgate . Can you imagine if he had missed . Well done Trent lad, you are the scouser in the England team and last night you represented.
07 Jul 2024 14:54:30
Wife is half Swiss so the kids and I were donning red for this one. But when I saw Trent step up for the 5th I switched straight to being a Trent supporter and hoping he’d nail the kick.
Love how he ran right past Pickford as they celebrated too lol.
07 Jul 2024 15:08:05
People see what they want to see mate. I keep reading about Mainoo being brilliant but England still haven’t scored a goal with him on the pitch. Sure he’s a talented kid with a big future but he’s not any better than Trent.
The 2 games he’s started he’s been subbed off with the scores 1-0 down to Slovakia and 1-0 down to Switzerland. Gallagher fared no better either hooked at half time with the score against Slovenia at 0-0. Funnily enough Trent’s the only one of the 3 to leave the pitch with England in a winning position (1-0 ahead vs Serbia) or at least having scored a goal (level at 1-1 vs Denmark).
Trent was the problem before a ball was even kicked according to most so he stood no chance.
07 Jul 2024 15:12:40
He ran past him to celebrate with the fans then turned around and celebrated by hugging Pickford. I know people don’t like it but this scouse lad seems to love England ??♂️ and players he plays with.
07 Jul 2024 15:42:07
Faith is she a Swiss army wife.
07 Jul 2024 15:43:47
It seems clear to me that Trent wants to play in midfield and not at right back. I think that’s the issue more than some people thinking he’s giving a big FU to Southgate. He was put on specifically to take a penalty, nothing else and he done his job.
07 Jul 2024 16:08:06
Aye he sure has. I have a feeling the waistcoat sent him on to take the 5th, knowing if he missed and England went out he has his ready made scapegoat. If he scores, like we all knew he would. It's a brave decision and the waistcoat is lauded for it.
Did you see the video of Trent, saying someone didn't want to take a pen? The media agenda will not change against him ?.
07 Jul 2024 17:04:32
Mainoo is 19 @MK. the same age as Bajectic. If Mainoo was a LFC player this page would be drooling over the lad. I disagree with you. The boy can play. He can carry the ball brilliantly. In five years time the kid would be owning that midfield spot for both club and country.
He was subbed off coz the team was chasing a goal and you always sacrifice the midfielders for attackers.
07 Jul 2024 17:12:32
Tinfoil hats needed by some I think.
07 Jul 2024 17:16:55
So what happens if someone misses the 3rd or 4th penalty? Some nonsense being spouted.
07 Jul 2024 17:29:52
Agree totally Jaguar, but i sometimes feel he gets the benefit BECAUSE he is 19.if he played like he did in a lot of games this year for club and country but was 25 no one would be saying a word about him. Has been part of a utd midfield that gets totally massacred on a weekly basis yet gets a pass. No one knows where he's going to be in 5 years, could be a gerrard or could be a Barkley. The boy can play, that much is clear to see, but the hype train has been in full overdrive with this one.
07 Jul 2024 17:44:08
Jaguar, don’t get me wrong I think he will be good but right now the fact is he hasn’t improved England when he’s started or came off the bench. He’s not better than Trent or Gallagher currently.
07 Jul 2024 17:51:08
I'm with you Irish Rover, I've never read so much garbage. I only cheered the Trent penalty, as it happens, cus I dreaded the stick he'd have got if he'd missed. However, regards to his place in midfield etc, Mainoo as performed far better, simple. I've said on here, repeatedly, that Trent isn't a midfielder and will always be at a loss to think why Southgate thought he was. I was hoping that he could play right wing-back, yesterday, with Saka switching to the left, but Saka was MOTM, so what do I know.
07 Jul 2024 17:52:17
@TIR I agree mate, some of the remarkable conspiracy type stuff on here is not only just bizarre but seems to credit Southgate for a lot more capability to manipulate than I think he actually has.
As an aside we have VVD, CG and potentially RG playing for Holland, who should I be cheering for?
07 Jul 2024 18:06:51
@MK. He is head and shoulders above Gallagher and if we take our red tinted glasses Mainoo is an actual midfielder compared Trent who still hasn’t played there. Gallagher is just a sprinter.
I like the kid and don't really care what color of shirt he wears, the boy can play.
07 Jul 2024 18:24:25
I’m pretty sure I saw Southgate try and trip Trent up on his run up to take the pen as well.
07 Jul 2024 19:25:13
Im over the whole Trent thingy, personally.
07 Jul 2024 19:32:21
Harvey Elliott is better than most of them and is of a similar age. Has more goals and assists in him. An extremely underrated player. We're lucky to have him. England need a player like him.
07 Jul 2024 19:41:22
In fairness to Gallagher he hasn't looked anything like the player whos been chelseas best midfIeder uder waistcoat. As much as im not convinced trents a midfielder you could see his reluctance to play his normal game also. Mainoo, maybe in the exuberance of youth has played how he has for his club. Think with trent in particular its looked like"if i don't follow this clowns instructions to the letter i won't get another chance"which is a shame.
07 Jul 2024 20:05:02
Agree 100% Leelad.
07 Jul 2024 23:56:30
Southgate is clueless, anyone with any ounce of football knowledge can see that.
Trent isn’t a midfield player. Klopp knew it and if anyone should know it, it would be Klopp.
However, putting Trent in midfield so he can ping passes in behind without playing anyone who actually runs in behind shows a new level of stupid.
Then when it doesn’t work, instead of playing with pace up front to get the best out of Trent he just changes Trent for Gallagher and gets a worse result. Then when that doesn’t work he tries Mainoo who is marginally better but it’s still not working.
Trent isn’t a miracle worker. He can’t play passes to pick out runs that aren’t happening.
The lethargic play is due to a complete lack of energy up front. We make it too easy for the opposition defenders to stay in their positions and deny space. We need someone who will player on the shoulder and make them run the other way to open up space for Saka, Foden and Bellingham who all like to play inside. At the moment they are just coming inside into traffic and Kane is just getting in the way.
Play Watkins and Trent will flourish. Something tells me that’s not what Southgate wants though.
{Ed001's Note - Klopp knew it so much that he was trying to play him in midfield last season and was only stopped by the injury to Bradley in pre-season. Why do people think they know what Klopp thought, when they clearly haven't a clue? Southgate is clueless, but not for playing Trent in midfield. It is for a useless set up that fails to make any use of Trent's strengths.}
08 Jul 2024 09:05:55
TAA is unjustly getting blamed for us topping the group and into the last four?
Ah well, never mind ?.
08 Jul 2024 10:09:09
Klopp had 6 years to play Trent in midfield and never did Ed. I’m sure they experimented with it because a guy with his skill set in midfield should on paper, be a success.
Unfortunately it has just never worked so Klopp (and Lijnders) came up with a formation that allowed him to come into midfield as a spare man in space.
If Klopp saw Trent as a midfield player he would’ve played him there when the midfield was badly struggling in the 22-23 season.
He didn’t because Trent isn’t effective as a midfield player.
{Ed001's Note - why do I bother? You are lying. Outright making stuff up. There was never a fullback good enough to challenge him until last season. But Bradley got injured and so there was no option to play him in midfield as there was no right back to replace him. It is nothing to do with effectiveness or otherwise. Please don't waste my time replying.}
08 Jul 2024 12:46:38
How is TAA being scapegoated when the bloke not picking him is getting booed and cups thrown at him?
09 Jul 2024 01:37:20
Some 1 mentioned Harvey elliot. How has he not got in this England team. Much better player than Gallagher alone, and probably offer more than foden so far too.