13 Aug 2024 16:18:15
Remember when on here people laughed at the fact we managed to sell both Ibe and Solanke to Bournemouth?
The person at Bournemouth who signed off on that is now in charge of transfers for us.
13 Aug 2024 16:28:12
I think Hughes is getting a bit of a pasting here but it is similar to last season with Caciedo and Lavia when he wasn’t even here.
I think the problem is we’ve shown our hand too early and could have gone about it like the Fabinho deal or even the Carvalho outgoing where everything was kept internal until paperwork was signed.
Like every club we’ve had transfer success’s and disasters over the last 10 years and Hughes is the new guy.
13 Aug 2024 16:39:01
Who is in charge of getting the 3 players to sign new deals?
13 Aug 2024 16:51:41
I don't know the guy but I get “ fame hungry wh*re” vibes from the man. He’s probably in river island buying a new tweed jacket and flat cap for transfer deadline day on sly sports.
{Ed025's Note - i think he may appear as Eberneezer Scrooge John and shouting "Humbug" at Jim White mate.. :)
13 Aug 2024 16:51:42
Yeah good question Mark.
I’m sure Hughes would be the one to negotiate them with the agents but I’m not sure if he’s the one who gives the nod to start the negotiations or sets the parameters of what can be offered.
In other words I don’t have a clue ?.
13 Aug 2024 17:06:04
Same Solanke who scored 77 goals for them (19 last season alone) and then sold for 3x what they paid for him? That’s the Solanke we’re mocking him for signing?
{Ed001's Note - well over half of those were in the Championship. 44 to be precise. In Premier League matches, he has a career total of 29 goals in 134 appearances. Not really a good record mate.}
13 Aug 2024 17:42:49
It was a good enough record for Spurs to lash out 55 million, Ed01.
{Ed001's Note - it is Spurs, you make it sound like it is a well run club that wins lots of trophies buying him. They have been desperate for a striker for a whole year and didn't feel he was good enough until now.}
13 Aug 2024 18:19:00
Goals a goal Ed001. Without his goals they’re still sat in the Championship most likely so he’s arguably made them significantly more money than just what they’ll get from his sale.
{Ed001's Note - without him there, they could have had someone else slotting away the huge number of chances he had last season. He is not a bad player, but he is not a 55m player by any means. But then this is Spuds, who paid more for Richarlison.}
13 Aug 2024 18:42:50
Spurs probably have overpaid Ed001, just not convinced it’s fair to imply Hughes failed and use the examples of signing Ibe and Solanke. Since Solanke signed for them I don’t think they’ve had a player perform better for them in that period and nobody could’ve predicted Ibe would suffer severe mental health problems.
{Ed001's Note - if you say so, but he had years of mediocrity before doing anything worthwhile, and contributed greatly to their relegation with his lack of goals.}
13 Aug 2024 18:56:41
I’m going to lay off Hughes now. He’s getting absolutely slaughtered everywhere. Hopefully we don’t sell anyone and don’t buy anyone.
Last thing we want is him overpaying for rubbish players because he’s struggling.
Hopefully he just realises he's completely out of his depth and steps away mid season. We don’t want this guy trying to replace VVD and Salah next summer. It’s for the best he just steps aside.
13 Aug 2024 19:26:44
Yes, we need to start sacking people right before the start of the season. What a well balanced suggestion.
13 Aug 2024 19:40:45
Can’t believe people are arguing that Solanke to spurs is a good piece of business, can you imagine if we brought him back to the club at even a fraction of what spurs paid #FSGOUT.
13 Aug 2024 20:23:10
You know nothing about Hughes LFC8 you are just pissed that he didn’t get one transfer done. Of a player that already turned down some big clubs in Europe but we managed to turn his head more than Bayern, Utd, Barcelona etc. what does that make them?
It’s way too early to make any assumptions about Hughes, people just need to stop throwing their toys out of the pram and acting like spoilt kids.
13 Aug 2024 20:38:09
I’m fully in your camp now Becker. I accept the small club mentality and agree with everything you’re saying. Let’s crack on with what we have (for god sake don’t sell anyone) maybe we can get 4th ?? the likes of Alisson etc will probably want out next summer too though with the massive lack of ambition. But if we get 4th at least we can have some good European nights whilst the owners are getting forced out.
13 Aug 2024 21:15:40
Isn't Solanke to Spurs a good bit of business for Bournemouth?
You know, the club Richard Hughes worked for?
13 Aug 2024 21:46:45
MKS sorry but if a goal is a goal regardless of what level you score it then how come Darwin keeps getting no credit whatsoever for being the leading scorer Portugal after scoring 34 goals including 26 in the league in his last season’s, a league that is better than the Championship?
The people who do this to Darwin say “well, Portuguese league isn’t the PL”. Well, neither is the Championship or have I missed something? Not having a go at u but just providing the other side of the argument and how you can use an argument to big up someone and us it to tear put someone else down, which I thinks what Ed01 is alluding to.
Not arsed about Solanke cos he is just a wasteful as Darwin is but cos their main guy and cos it’s B’mouth, no one cares. We’ll see how he dies at Spurs.
{Ed025's Note - dies at spurs Oli?, lets hope not.. :)
13 Aug 2024 22:24:57
Oli, do you really want MK to explain other people's criticism of Nunez when he was talking about the goals Solanke scored for Bournemouth?
Why? ?.
13 Aug 2024 22:29:23
You are a poster boy for the small club mentality LFC8. All you do is moan about how we haven’t signed anyone and how Hughes is out of his depth when you have absolutely no idea what he does or how good he is at it.
You just want new players. That’s it. Forget about the squad we have and the new manager. Forget about improving the players we already have at the club, just sign new players or you won’t be happy and will blame anyone you can that you didn’t get what you want.
We need to be signing top players to improve the squad mate. But the thing about top players is that we are not the only team that wants them so they are very difficult to sign. Especially when you are asking them to move themselves and their family from a picturesque, sunny Spanish town (I’ve never been but I’m told San Sebastián is gorgeous) to a cold and wet Northern English city (I love Liverpool btw but I was born here) .
Yet you forget all of that and just blame Hughes for not getting it done? Surely you can’t be that small minded to think it’s all his fault? Zubimendi obviously loves being where he is. The fact that he even gave us the time of day when he’d already turned down other big opportunities tells me that Hughes made us look like an attractive proposition.
It didn’t work out this time but we move on.
13 Aug 2024 22:32:29
Oli, where did I put down Nunez or his goal record in Portugal? I’m just not having it Solanke was a flop. Flops don’t treble your money or score 77 goals, irrespective of the level they’re scored at. Scoring goals is the hardest thing in football and the goalposts are the same size in every league and the standards of goal keeping aren’t much different nowadays, it’s mainly the standard of the defending that affects it. It’s all relative anyway. Scoring goals in a weaker league doesn’t necessarily make you good enough to play for Liverpool, but it does make you important to the team you are doing it for. And Solanke was undeniably important to everything good Bournemouth have done in the last 5 years or so. He was the main man in the year they got promoted and he was the main man in their best ever Premier League season. My argument isn’t that he’s a great player, or that he’s worth £55-65m. My argument is that by hook or by crook he was a successful signing for Bournemouth. I don’t understand why it’s even a debate. If Nunez scores 77 goals at our clubs level and then sells for £200m I don’t think anybody will criticise his signing will they. Again, all relative. Solanke was £20m well spent in the end.
Hughes might not have done a great job at Bournemouth for all I know, but I sat in the stands with my dad at Nene Park and watched them play in League 2 against Rushden and Diamonds 20 years ago, so let’s not pretend like this is a club with any divine right to be where it is. My local team Rushden and Diamonds don’t even exist anymore so that is how fragile football is at that level. Bournemouth have no doubt had some good backing in that time, but so have several teams that still find themselves rooted to the Championship/ League 1. So how bad of a job did Hughes really do, to be a part of the staff to keep them at the level he did? Sometimes perspective is important. I saw the real Bournemouth in the flesh at the level they probably belong, but maybe others don’t have that same perspective.
{Ed001's Note - is that why you were arguing about Solanke? Wasn't he signed before Howe handed over the reins on recruitment?}
13 Aug 2024 22:52:26
“Hopefully he just realises he's completely out of his depth and steps away mid season“
Yeah, don’t hold your breath.
13 Aug 2024 23:06:50
the only thing that dies at spurs is a players realistic hopes of winning a trophy.
14 Aug 2024 01:03:58
Markp08 - Julian ward (technical director) is the person who handles contract renewals for staff and players I believe.
Richard Hughes (sporting director) handles transfers and loans in and out.
14 Aug 2024 07:28:33
Ed001, when did Howe hand over the reins on recruitment and what was Hughes' role at Bournemouth before he did?
I've seen quotes from Hughes when Bournemouth signed Solanke and he seemed to be part of the team that recruited him.
{Ed001's Note - I don't know, I am trying to remember when he did. As for Hughes, I have no idea but him and Edwards are an example of poor recruitment by us.}
14 Aug 2024 08:26:28
Ta, Ed001 and we'll find out soon enough how they and Slot get on.
{Ed001's Note - we are lucky that Slot was left a strong squad to work with, as it gives time for teething problems to be worked out with recruitment. But I have absolutely no faith in Hughes, who showed nothing at Bournemouth that I can see.}