30 Nov 2024 09:56:39
Anyone see the VAR disallowed goal for Southampton last night?
Boy, when you're down there are definitely some situations that just keep kicking you whilst you're down.
To. disallow a goal like that. is so damn cruel.
I felt for Southampton, and that right there is where the heart and emotion is taken out of football.
I cannot think of any reason as to why that goal was disallowed. The ball was behind the offside player and his actions had no bearing on the direction of the ball or on any other player.
30 Nov 2024 10:41:58
I saw it JLC and I genuinely didn’t know which way VAR would go with it.
To be fair they were damned if they do and damned if they don’t. I agree it was very harsh to disallow a goal for that.
However, Armstrong did flick his leg up towards the ball in the act of running. He got nowhere near it but he did flick his leg up at it.
It’s arguable whether that affected the keeper’s position or not but they decided it could’ve.
Letter of the law I think it’s probably the right call but in the interests of the game I think it should be a goal. A very difficult one for VAR to call but I think they should just gone with the on field decision which I think was a goal.
Either way they would’ve been criticised.
It’s always the problem with VAR, they try to apply a rule from the rulebook to every situation but if you understand the game you instinctively know when something doesn’t look quite right.
30 Nov 2024 11:12:49
This is what happens when subjectivity is placed in these decisions.
For me it's not clear and obvious, the goal scorer can be clearly defined but the second player should be down to the linesman/ ref. If they gave that as a goal everyone would understand why they got to that decision from their views.
When we eventually get automated offsides we are still going to get these situations where subjectivity is involved. Is it time to make it black and white? If the ball goes forward and an attacker is offside then flag goes up.
I appreciate we would lose goals but the current rules don't work and I am sure of that situation happens again you'll likely get a different outcome.
30 Nov 2024 12:02:16
Didn't the linesman flag for offside originally, the VAR then overruled that decision but spotted another player potentially interfering with play. If they'd gone with onfield decision, it'd been ruled out. But the whole thing was a bit farcical.
30 Nov 2024 13:05:51
I wasn’t sure about whether the linesman had flagged Stuie as I was watching it on my phone with no sound but by the way Southampton celebrated it didn’t look like it.
Like I said it was a difficult one and could be argued either way.
It does annoy me that you get some situations where the defence push up to play someone offside and a third man runs through but the offside player is not deemed to have interfered. Of course he has, the defence only pushed up because of where he is standing!
Yet in this scenario Armstrong had no impact on the actions of the defenders and it’s ruled out. Again it just shows a distinct lack of understanding of the game by the ones who are employed to enforce the rules.
30 Nov 2024 15:05:50
The Brighton centerhalf tried to touch the ball a long with Armstrong so if centerhalf had touched the ball the forward would not of scored so the decision is more for the defender not attacker that goal should of counted they both missed the ball .
30 Nov 2024 16:05:02
I've said it before, offside is offside. Stop the stupid "interfering with play", too subjective. If a player is offside, he has 2 choices, sprint back to get onside, or get off the pitch.
30 Nov 2024 16:28:59
Offside/ interference for me all day.
30 Nov 2024 16:31:48
Agreed Tristan, why over complicate it, players offside balls almost hits him, simples.
30 Nov 2024 20:57:13
That’s exactly it though lads. These are all good arguments either way.
It was a true 50/ 50 decision and both ways could be argued.
Like others have said I’d like to see it always called offside whether a player goes towards the ball or not. Like Shanks said ‘if you’re not interfering with play, what are you doing on the pitch’.
We are asking people who have no idea about the game and have never played it at a high level, to guess whether one player’s actions have affected another’s.
We will always get these arguments.