19 Dec 2024 08:32:02
Hi all
Just on the Southampton goal last night should the ref have stopped the game for a head injury on Endo?
{Ed025's Note - no, dont you think you get enough help of the officials as it is?..
19 Dec 2024 08:59:48
No mate i don't think it should have been stopped otherwise we're setting a precedent for players to go down holding their heads even more to stop attacks (not saying that's what Endo did mind)
The amount of Premier league footballers that go down holding their heads in games already is pretty embarrassing.
Surely for their safety a HIA needs to be brought into play here as it will stop 95% of the melodramatics and is then an actual Safety SOP in place.
19 Dec 2024 09:54:04
What help would that be?
19 Dec 2024 09:57:54
No. A ball to the face is painful but nowhere near as potentially dangerous as a clash of heads so he was right to play on.
19 Dec 2024 10:47:50
Boogaloo is that question to me mate?
If so it means that players have to leave the pitch to have a head injury assessment.
So using the latest one as an example Kyle Walker.
He went down after a head to head. So what Walker was implying is that he was headbutted that hard it knocked him off his feet.
Should we be allowing players who have just been (so called) laid out to carry on playing a contact sport.
If there is a consequence to players actions of play acting then maybe they stop doing it.
Or we just contiue watching them roll around like they've been shot and turn a blind eye to it as it is not part and parcel of the game.
Watch Fernandez at Utd, he goes down at least twice a game holding his face from any kind of challenge.
19 Dec 2024 10:52:39
would have been pretty rough to stop the game for that.
19 Dec 2024 10:59:28
I dislike Hooper after the Spurs debacle last season but last night he got every big decision correct in my opinion. Far too many players were rolling around on the floor asking for free kicks. Endo, Chiesa and their man Fernandes were the biggest culprits for throwing themselves down and staying down too long. Hooper didn't entertain any of it though and was consistent in his approach. He just waved them all away and told everyone to get up every time.
19 Dec 2024 11:08:17
ShipleyKopite, is that what happened? Nah, no way the game should be stopped. With that being said, I think the OP was only messing about.
19 Dec 2024 11:27:55
HIA means a player has to leave the field of play, go down the tunnel and be examined by an impartial doctor. It would stop play acting immediately.
No player actually wants to go off, it will stop players faking a head injury/ smack in the face on inception day.
19 Dec 2024 11:35:31
Longthing - Absolutely not. A ball used in football simply won’t cause the kind of damage we worry about when a player has a head injury - in other words, being hit in the face with a ball is not a reason to stop play. It stings, it can shock you into a light daze, but the chances of it causing a serious injury are absurdly small.
19 Dec 2024 11:40:14
Play Gaelic football in the winter and get smacked with the size 4 ball in the thigh, then you'll realise pain. Players are way too soft these days.
19 Dec 2024 11:52:00
JK i am fully on board with you to be honest.
Imagine Kyle Walker having to go off for a full assessment after Rasmus "assaulted" him.
We see numerous players sent of because of a coming together of heads and one party goes full on Oscar worthy performance to get the other sent off.
I'm sure if they had to leave the field for a few minutes to be medically assessed we would see the end of players preparing for their career on the big screen after football. Well in relation to head injuries anyway.
19 Dec 2024 12:01:40
Except for those who have Alzheimers (at least partially) through repeated head trauma. From repeatedly being hit in the head / heading the ball eh?
I find it odd that people say it has no effect - perhaps most contributors have medical qualifications too?
19 Dec 2024 13:31:58
True WDW, saw an article about that a few years ago.
19 Dec 2024 14:10:43
@Oli. Yeah. It smacked Endo in the mush and rebound beautifully into Archers path for a run at goal.
On the topic of HIAs, they should be introduced but you can't use it as a form of punishment. If you want to stop incidents like the Kyle Walker one you need to book them for simulation. In rugby they have a. sensor in their gum shield which measures the force of a hit and players are automatically referred for a HIA when a certain force is registered so either we make everyone wear a gum shield like Endo or have at doctor at Stockley Park watching the match and analysing collisions and referring players for HIAs when required. Having a serious professional in the room with the VAR might even have a knock on effect and make them act a bit more professionally.
19 Dec 2024 14:26:09
HIAs are not to stop play acting. It's a serious thing.
If anything they could encourage play acting. A player could feign a head injury, be assessed for 10/ 15 minutes, be replaced and then return the pitch a fresher player.
I've seen it a few times in the NRL where it doesn't count as a substitution.
19 Dec 2024 14:43:39
Rigsby I know hia is a serious thing. There isn’t one in football so what does that say.
If my son was lying on the floor holding his head from any kind of impact injury then the last thing in my mind would be I can’t wait for him to get up and play the rest of the game.
Premier league players seem to go down like they have a serious injury but are perfectly fine 60 seconds later.
It’s not hard to work out a serious head collision to a play acting one.
A serious head impact / collision should come under the exact same Hia as other sports and a replacement is used.
If it’s a player that goes down holding their head then surely a lower hia by a doctor on the side of the pitch that removes said player from a game for 2-3 minutes would cut out play acting and also have a safety precaution in place.
Shipley it isn’t always via gum shield mate. That’s only at the highest level. It can also be called by direct observation by official or VAR.
19 Dec 2024 15:12:04
About right JK, too many players act like they've been shot mate and they're happy as Larry after an Oscar winning performance rolling about like little tarts.
19 Dec 2024 15:21:50
In late 2022 my wife had a bad fall and banged her head. There was some blood but she didn't need a doctor. 2 months later my daughter recognised that her speech wasn't quite right. She can no longer speak and has trouble swallowing due to MND (she is due to get a PEG fitted in January in order, if necessary, to feed intravenously) . Head injuries are a serious problem and why I hate boxing as the ideal outcome is to concussion your opponent.
19 Dec 2024 16:55:03
Walkon, a mitre mouldmaster on the inside of the thigh on a cold winter morning on a gravel pitch and you knew all about it then haha.
19 Dec 2024 21:11:27
So sorry to hear that Wirralean, life can be very cruel for no reason.
Best wishes to you and your family and especially your wife.
YNWA.
19 Dec 2024 21:11:27
So sorry to hear that Wirralean, life can be very cruel for no reason.
Best wishes to you and your family and especially your wife.
YNWA.
20 Dec 2024 08:37:03
A close family friend of ours slipped on the stairs last weekend and smacked his head a good one off the wall. He died in hospital 24 hours later of a brain bleed.
If players insist on rolling round on the floor because of a head injury it should be mandatory that they be taken off the pitch for 15 minutes minimum.
Leaving their team down to 10 men will go a long way to sorting that out in the long term, it also legitimately gives time for a more thorough check to ensure no serious damage is happening.