07 Jan 2025 13:40:54
See the report from elon musk father that he does want to buy the club. Stating family ties to the city.
07 Jan 2025 13:54:00
His dad being told by Talkrubbish that talking about LFC generates clicks.
07 Jan 2025 14:04:52
If he put in a lot of money for transfers people would soon forget how much of a strange and sometimes offensive person he is. He would not be a good owner in my opinion though. He makes frequent rash and risky financial decisions which have seen him come very close to bankruptcy in the past. I'm also not entirely sure that his personality is in line with the ethics and morals that Liverpool FC try to uphold as an institution.
Much as the modern day dopamine addict might not like FSG and their love of stability, they've ultimately ran our club superbly. We went from a mid-table team haemorrhaging debt whilst failing to improve the infrastructure and winning very little, to a top 4 team with zero financial concerns that's got state of the art facilities and has won every major trophy at club level in the past 5 seasons. They've also overseen arguably the smoothest transition of a departing legendary manager in the Premier League era.
Musk is not needed, and nor should he be wanted.
07 Jan 2025 14:27:13
Well put mk.
07 Jan 2025 15:40:54
Not sure you can question him financially. Even if one business went bankrupt he would still make a massive fortune from other ventures. He is a business genius and in 5 years he will be worth twice as much.
07 Jan 2025 15:41:43
Can't wait for an X poll:
Should we sanction £_______ a week for __________? ?
Big fan of Musk in many ways but for the love of god, please stay away from Liverpool FC.
07 Jan 2025 14:46:47
MK's nailed it.
Even if you don't care about his politics (I believe his latest one is running a poll asking if the US should 'liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government'. I'm sure that's just fine though cos something something Jess Phillips bad. Or it's just a joke bro. lol) he's too unpredictable to own a football club. No amount of money makes it a good idea. Maybe 10 years ago before he completely disappeared up his own backside, it might have been viable. But now? Nah. Believes his own hype too much.
07 Jan 2025 14:46:49
And increased our capacity to over 60k, MK.
07 Jan 2025 15:13:45
Yet people will still scream they want FSG gone for reasons that don't even make sense. We really need to make an Ed002 sticker for the site which says "This is why we do not talk about finances"
07 Jan 2025 15:22:36
Okay, just to clarify: You have no problem with Saudi owners or other states in the Middle East that oppress women, fail to uphold human rights, or freedom of speech, but when it comes to Musk, everything is turned upside down because he occasionally writes mean things. The lestist represent the worst of visible opinions, and if you don't see the double standards, take a step back and reflect.
07 Jan 2025 15:26:57
We're a well run club, now, eh?
What about the shambolic transfer committee and lack of shiny new toys, Salah?
07 Jan 2025 15:33:06
Isn't Elon Musks mother or grandma a Scouser . People complaining about who might buy us . tell me a billionaire who hasn't got a bit of an iffy background.
07 Jan 2025 15:52:34
Like buying Twitter and changing its name. That didn't work out. It's worth 80-90% less than when he took over. Plus other mistakes. That said, he is still worth £275 billion. Personally, hate him and his behaviour, politics, weirdness and would seriously question my loyalties to LFC if he owned us. Hi shaping of Global politics is not going to end well, so at least footie would be the least of my worries.
07 Jan 2025 15:55:53
Spot on, MKS. Elon Musk? And we thought the Saudis and Qataris were bad.
07 Jan 2025 15:57:57
C0ffan who's "you"? I think quite a few people on here have been consistent about disliking state run clubs, you'll find. Possibly because it's other clubs having loadsamoney rather than moral reasons, but nonetheless.
Feel free to dig out my views on Jordan Henderson after he went to Saudi Arabia if you like. I'm sure it's searchable on here.
07 Jan 2025 16:01:01
It’s never going to happen. Don’t even need to debate it.
07 Jan 2025 16:02:11
I couldn’t imagine FSG selling to Musk for billions of pounds more than what they paid for.
Main reason being quite a few posters said they would no longer support the club so I don’t think John Henry’s conscience could take it ?.
07 Jan 2025 16:20:50
I wouldn't fancy looking too much into Musk's family line, you only need to look at his dad and step daughters relationship!
07 Jan 2025 16:22:02
'And we thought the Saudis and Qataris were bad. '
I think some people have lost perspective. I'm no fan of Musk but, as far as I know, he hasn't ordered the execution of political opponents, ordered women to be stoned to death in public, handed out 10 year prison sentence along with 50 lashes a week for setting up a political debate website and so on and so on.
07 Jan 2025 16:22:44
JK ? I couldn't believe some of the reactions the other day saying they'd stop supporting us lol. Personally I don't get that. I obviously understand the Elon hate but to stop supporting Liverpool? Impossible for me even if I wanted to I couldn't.
07 Jan 2025 16:27:42
Old Man Musky reckons they knew a few of The Beatles, how can we say no? Remind me again how many were in The Fab Four ?
If Errol or Elon show us their collection of Cilla Black albums and can do a good Stan Boardman impression I reckon it's a done deal.
It's must be quiet time for real news.
07 Jan 2025 16:56:29
I'd expect spirit of Shankly and any other supporters group to push against this. I've seen many fans saying they would turn their back on the club if this happened.
He's like a child in toys r us with his parents credit card, thinks he can just buy what ever he likes.
People who think him saying "mean things" is his main problem may want to look into his deplorable history.
He should never be allowed anywhere near the club, regardless of if his grandma is a scouser or not. Disgusting human being and I hope they march to prevent any attempt at buying the club. If it actually happens that is.
07 Jan 2025 17:02:25
Well said Adam. Brilliant Rigsby?.
07 Jan 2025 17:11:17
To be honest I would take Saudi owners any day of the week over Musk.
07 Jan 2025 17:21:48
I’d take musk over the Saudis.
07 Jan 2025 17:24:26
Newcastle have the richest ( Saudi ) owners in world yet can’t just buy, in fact, they will be restricted until June 30th.
As the great ed002 often said, football finances and the football fan don’t mix….
07 Jan 2025 17:43:17
Certainly not in your case Drogie! Only joking ?.
07 Jan 2025 17:44:04
Made me chuckle, Rigsby.
07 Jan 2025 18:01:53
What if we could get the Saudi's and Musk to buy us, then everyone can have a meltdown but we'd be loaded.
07 Jan 2025 18:07:01
Apparently Musk's Nan is from Mossley Hill, so Rigsby may get his wish about that stack of Cilla records! ?.
07 Jan 2025 18:08:40
David Morres was a nice man, but the club was known for dodgy manager and player signings, plus getting fleeced over sales for much of his time.
Who is an ideal ownership? The only way, long term, going forward would be to follow the German Model.
07 Jan 2025 18:20:10
We could always ask Mother Theresa if she fancies buying us.
{Ed001's Note - she was not a nice person either. You might want to look up what she did to those under her 'care'.}
07 Jan 2025 18:36:30
Anyone who thinks Musk is more dangerous than the Saudis I have a challenge for you.
Go to the biggest Republican state in the USA with a sign abusing Musk to the hilt for 8hrs, you will walk away untouched because police will be called to protect your freedom of speech. Then go to anywhere in Saudi and do the same thing about the Saudi royal family for 15 mins, you will not walk away. Please think before commenting with ridiculous comparisons.
Why not do it in both places with a rainbow flag in your other hand.
07 Jan 2025 18:45:23
I own a car. Someone might want to buy the car. If we reach an agreement Ion price then as long as I’m happy and the person buying the car is happy what do we care what anybody else thinks. it’s a business transaction.
Say the car was Liverpool FC, I am FSG and Musk wants the car. By and large the same rule that nobody else’s opinion matters. Of course, there are watchdogs to ensure that there is nothing underhand afoot (see what I did there) but I’d be a bit surprised if the FA didn’t find Musk suitable.
That said, from my perspective, I would really love the owners of the club to be genuine fans of the club and of the game. ideally I’d like them to be driven by a desire to see the team be the best football team in the world playing the best football anyone has ever seen (and I think that is true if the vast majority of people who contribute to this forum) but I think we all know (and regret) that this particular ship has sailed. For owners these days it is about P and L, no matter how much they may protest or obfuscate.
Again, from my perspective, it’s fair to say that I am not unhappy with what FSG has done for the club - saved us from almost certain administration, modernisation of the ground, creation of the new training centre, all of which are too our benefit in a long term strategic sense and the employment of Klopp and Slot which have been very beneficial in a short term tactical sense. That said I’m not quite ‘happy’ with FSG as my opinion is that they would be willing to sell in a heartbeat if they received an offer they thought was good enough. In summary, they are probably amongst the best of an increasingly unpleasant (for want of a better word) choices) .
For me the discussions about the flavour of vile creatures who could take over, ranging from vile, hateful human rights abusers to megalomaniac head cases is pointless. Obviously none of us in our right minds would support these humans as somebody to run our club but as fans / spectators we have, in real terms, sadly no effective way that I can see of effecting any business decision. Besides, I’m an everyday, normal sort of hypocrite and if an owner did take over and enable the best football team ever to play the best football ever seen at Liverpool FC, I’d probably stream the matches to watch and not give the ownership a thought, at least whilst the match was on.
I’d say that whilst I’m a Liverpool fan I suspect there are a lot of fans at a lot of clubs who might be in the same boat as me.
07 Jan 2025 18:49:02
Funny reading some of the things on here concerning Elon . I won't support Liverpool if he takes over is the funniest though. n not far behind is I'd rather have the Saudis or Qatar money.
07 Jan 2025 18:52:07
Hi Ed001, I am with you on this. Finally someone told truth about her.
07 Jan 2025 19:03:16
The comparison between Musk and any Middle East petro state ownership is ridiculous. Musk, for all his faults, hasn’t decapitated anyone or mutilated anyone, or executed a journalist and disposed of the body in acid at an embassy. All things that Mohammed Bin Salman has done, btw, and that’s not even mentioning the human rights abuses of workers. As for John W Henry, the man is a vulture capitalist who, like other vulture capitalists. Made his fortune shafting companies for as much money as possible before walking away with a nice tidy profit, lots of redundancies and hollowed out companies. Is that in tune with the so called values of the club? As some of the comments on the thread come across as a bit sanctimonious. Or are those values interchangeable depending on who the person is, to paraphrase Groucho Marx, you don’t like these values? I have others.
07 Jan 2025 19:07:28
I think that people don’t really understand how much Musk and the oil states have in common. Both don’t like democracy, are homophobic, misogynistic, racist and wouldn’t hesitate to kill someone if it suits them. They are also both rich beyond comprehension. Neither would suit me as owners and either would stop me from supporting the club, since those are not values that I can relate to and yes my values are more important than my support of the club. I don’t mind if people have other opinions on this, this is my choice and my choice only and contrary to Musk and oil states I don’t mind people having other opinions than myself. Everyone is allowed to be wrong.
07 Jan 2025 19:11:13
Heidi Klum or Claudia Schiffer, Vango?
This Musk thing is a non-story and he's not worthy of the attention, for me.
07 Jan 2025 19:29:34
Are either of them left footed Rigsby, we could do with a solid option to rotate with Robbo.
07 Jan 2025 19:30:37
Slightly disappointed that there are some apologists for Musk here. Just because other clubs have dubious owners, it doesn’t make the idea of him ok.
I am loathe to take a moral judgement on anyone, but I find his support for the German far right along with Tommy Robinson here deeply troubling - he is showing delusions of grandeur as a potential world leader.
If you combine that with his mood swings as expressed in deranged tweets (the ones that devalued Twitter, along with the appalling accusations made against one of the divers who saved the Thai football team) - he is clearly troubled, and on a very dangerous path.
Plus he is clearly thin skinned and vindictive. What would he do if the fans turned on him? Plus - I don’t entirely understand the FFP rules, but from looking at Newcastle it seems clear that having a sugar daddy has no impact now upon a club’s spending power (amen to that) .
In terms of his business acumen: he’s a superb self-publicist and ruthless. But since PayPal (which I think he got kicked out of? ), I don’t see a single company that has improved once he has become involved. Twitter has been destroyed - financially, and editorially.
So, from an entirely practical perspective I think he has nothing positive to offer, and would drive many life-long obsessives like me to step away from supporting the club.
07 Jan 2025 19:31:18
Ed001 ised to drive me mad my kids school had a house named after mother Theresa.
{Ed001's Note - my primary school did as well.}
07 Jan 2025 19:52:36
I like him ( musk) I don’t believe he will buy us, imagine if he did and we was the first club to have our own satellite in space or flying a rocket over the world with a YNWA banner. Streaming all our games for pennies instead of being bled dry.
07 Jan 2025 20:03:28
Ed001, are you really saying that someone who got proclaimed to be a saint be the catholic church wasn’t a saint, surely years of covered up child abuse would prove you wrong.
{Ed001's Note - hard to believe the cafflick Church would ever get involved in something like that. Apart from helping Nazis escape justice at the end of the war and attempts at ethnic cleansing of Native Americans in the USA and Canada, when have they ever done anything wrong? Well, other than covering up child abuse. But apart from that?}
07 Jan 2025 20:09:47
I am sorry nobody runs a business as well as elon does and as efficiently as elon does.
The person might be downright offensive and rash as they come but he runs all his businesses enviably well.
For half the world against him he doubled is net worth from 170b to 350b in two years.
Even his ardent haters accept that. He is business and innovation personified and they dream at running on his levels.
Hate the guy or don't like him but that guy achieves the pinnacle of everything he has got into.
Turned X into mordern civil warfare battlefield.
Has half the europe rubbishting their pants.
07 Jan 2025 20:16:56
Ed001, I could add genocide in Brazil to that, but surely there’s no need for nitpicking.
{Ed001's Note - the way they milk the poorest people in places like the Philippines is sickening as well, but like you I didn't want to nitpick.}
07 Jan 2025 20:25:54
@akira, all while receiving a ridiculous amount of subsidies by the state, which he is now part of, I bet I, a simple woodworker, could do it.
07 Jan 2025 20:58:09
What happened to the banter page?
The Catholic Church, genocide, ethnic cleansing, Adolf Hitler, Fred West etc?
Blimey ?.
07 Jan 2025 21:05:19
Outside sources trying to distract the best club in Europe currently. It's disgusting.
07 Jan 2025 21:43:07
Ed01, don't forget colonisation in the Southern hemisphere esp. in Africa.
07 Jan 2025 22:34:07
Musk is currently funding a genocide and people are saying that he isn't as bad as Middle East countries. Well, I'd argue that he's worse than them.
07 Jan 2025 23:10:21
Are you talking about The British Empire, Oli? Or Belgian colonisation?
08 Jan 2025 00:04:54
That wa**er Musk is a crypto nazi.
The grandfathers of all you techbro wannabes are rolling in their graves.
08 Jan 2025 00:10:50
Musk has disowned his father.
His father is a drugged up lunatic who fathered a child with his step-daughter and honestly believes “Tommy Robinson will be the next UK PM”.
Ignore him, he’s as reliable as John McAfee was.
A drugged up hippie who forgot to grow up.
08 Jan 2025 01:24:30
Speaking as somebody who went to the ‘Eddies’ and was educated by the Christian Brothers, for those of you familiar with West Derby you’d be familiar with the purple blazers, there is not a single thing to recommend the Catholic Church. In the good old days the only language used in the written word was Latin, and the only people who understood the language were the Catholics. They had a monopoly on ‘knowledge’ as they were the only ones with access to what God said. A nice little earner if you could get a job.
Look up William Tyndale, if you don’t already know his story.
08 Jan 2025 02:44:24
Ed 1, we are getting into sticky territory once religion comes up. I think I support Liverpool because as an Irish Catholic in the UK, it’s a club that seemed like a natural home - which is weird as I think, back in the day, Everton was the Catholic club?
For what it’s worth, I still think LFC is the club of choice for non-conformist religions? And no matter what your religion, how about this from a German nun I met during the Bosnian conflict: never condemn the sinner, just the sin.
08 Jan 2025 07:34:51
We're already well into sticky territory, Monstersouness.
08 Jan 2025 07:41:04
Musk's father is a wife beating psychopath don't trust anything he says.