04 Apr 2025 12:10:31
Ed01, why do you think Harvey Elliot is getting so little game time? Is he not showing the attributes in training that Slot wants?
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea as he was very impressive in preseason. Slot seems to have settled on a small group that he trusts and is not willing to give anyone else much time at all to prove themselves. It has worked in the Premier League, but it has also led to us running out of steam and falling out of the other 3 competitions.}
04 Apr 2025 12:18:19
He’s not good enough. Don’t understand the obsession with Elliot. I’d argue Jones is better in the 10 and the 8 than him. Too slow, not physical and not smart enough with his movement in between the lines.
04 Apr 2025 12:35:03
Playing Elliot in an already physically non-impressive midfield doesn't make sense to me. Playing him on the wing is also not that effective, and a bit of an overkill, when TAA in the squad.
04 Apr 2025 12:52:43
I’m not sure if some of the players fall into the not good enough category but more the not what Slot wants category.
Even though it looks likely we will win the league I can see quite a bit of movement in and out this upcoming summer.
04 Apr 2025 13:12:38
I ve been super impressed with Elliott in his very limited game time.
And from every account I ever heard, works his butt off in training.
I really don't want to see him go. If we bought a top class goal scoring striker, I think he could work in the RW spot as Salah replacement plus he is always a 10 option. Home grown. Loves the club. Think it's going to be short sighted to cash in.
Of course we might not. Let's wait and see I guess.
04 Apr 2025 13:43:05
I do feel elliot will go to the likes of Fulham/ Palace and be very very good if he gets the minutes. Technically he's a smashing player i can only think his lack of pace and strength is holding him back getting into our team. Shame really.
04 Apr 2025 13:13:21
The thing with Harvey Elliot is he can definitely be good enough as he is only 21, f. eks Harvey could be a very Effective RW with someone like Bradley or Frimpong at RB. However i think he is too small and weak defensively to play centrally. How few minutes he gets however tells me Slot doesn't fancy him that much and he'll probably be on the Transfer list in the summer. 50/ 50 if he wants to leave or not, he seems adamant that he's going nowhere.
04 Apr 2025 14:46:47
@Brummyred do you not think he's good enough to even come on last 20 minutes to give salah a rest. It's quite clear to see that salah is drained in the last few months of the league.
04 Apr 2025 14:53:22
Having a super talented homegrown English player who will run through walls to play for you is a remarkable asset, surely the men in charge aren't dumb enough to let him go.
04 Apr 2025 15:48:23
I think Elliott is a very smart player his passing is above Jones his work rate is very good and he should be getting more minutes even in place of Sobs in games for me who offers so much but end product sometimes. The cup final he was our best player and if had been on earlier we might have got something out of it. Klopp admitted at the end of last season he should have played him more and it cost us as Sobs and jones form had dropped of a cliff.
04 Apr 2025 16:49:39
I love the fact harvey is a red and loves the club as much as us. he’s a great squad player proven time and again I wouldn’t be in a rush to let him go let’s see the calibre of players slot and Hughes think are what the team needs. Don’t be swapping the wheat for the chaff.
04 Apr 2025 17:05:51
I still can’t believe it’s was a genuine Debate on here earlier in the season who was the better player Harvey Elliot or Alexis Mac Allister ?.
04 Apr 2025 17:09:42
Can't fault the lad for his desire, effort and technical ability. It's just Slot doesn't seem to trust him.
As I mentioned before here, I can see him moving on and potentially replaced with another young attacking midfielder like Mastantuono or Sudakov to challenge Szobo.
04 Apr 2025 17:36:04
I also saw someone say that Morton should be starting ahead of Mac.
04 Apr 2025 20:44:55
I’d play Elliot more at points, Szobo whilst working hard is a headless chicken at times and Elliot is direct, he shoots and pops up with the odd goal. Szobo should have scored more given the amount he plays.
04 Apr 2025 21:28:17
That’s a bit of a stretch Ed we did not fall out of the other 3 competitions because we ran out of steam. We went out of the FA Cup without any of those players, lost in the final of the League Cup and went out on penalties in the CL against a very good PSG team who we more than matched.
I get what you’re saying that he has found a core of players that he trusts and plays them week in week out but that has had nothing to do with us going out of any competitions. We just can’t win everything every season that’s all. Nobody does.
As for Harvey he’s talented but not defensively or tactically aware enough in my opinion. Lovely kid and a really hard worker but makes us weaker defensively, especially in transition.
04 Apr 2025 21:28:17
That’s a bit of a stretch Ed we did not fall out of the other 3 competitions because we ran out of steam. We went out of the FA Cup without any of those players, lost in the final of the League Cup and went out on penalties in the CL against a very good PSG team who we more than matched.
I get what you’re saying that he has found a core of players that he trusts and plays them week in week out but that has had nothing to do with us going out of any competitions. We just can’t win everything every season that’s all. Nobody does.
As for Harvey he’s talented but not defensively or tactically aware enough in my opinion. Lovely kid and a really hard worker but makes us weaker defensively, especially in transition.
05 Apr 2025 07:50:15
The bit on Elliott and his cringe worthy dad in the amazon doc is rather telling. The guy is an adult, earing serious bank and yet his dad still controls his life.
I think a move away from the club, and from his dad could do him a lot of good. Slot is not going to change his mind on the attributes required to be a consistent part of his teams.
05 Apr 2025 08:01:34
Baby legs looks like he’s running through treacle, he will never ever become a starting 11 player and should be moved on when a first team starter is replaced.