22 May 2025 09:12:03
I don't mean to pile on him but we really dodged a bullet with Amorim. What a sliding doors moment to go with Slot.
22 May 2025 09:39:17
They smoked him out long before there was any danger of actually hiring him.
Slot was always the numero uno.
22 May 2025 09:41:46
Hughes and Edwards certainly pulled that one out of the bag by opting for Slot.
In Amorim's defence, he did say to United he didn't want to come mid-season as his system needed a pre-season and transfers to set it up properly. I believe Ashworth was also dismissed because he didn't think Amorim was the right choice at that point in time. The club is a mess and Jim Ratcliffe has only compounded the mess that came before him.
I count my lucky stars we're such a well run club when I see what's going on at clubs like Man United and Chelsea.
22 May 2025 09:47:56
He has been awful. Very surprised there are so many united fans still have his back after last night.
22 May 2025 10:20:56
Job was always way too big for him without a really strong sporting director.
I suspect he'll bow out this summer. The environment is just too toxic to stay as United fans and the business model come to terms with a period in the wilderness.
And I am enjoying every moment of it.
22 May 2025 10:25:07
Is it Amorim's fault, though? I've honestly not paid any attention to United this season.
22 May 2025 10:38:12
He’s paying the price for not being tactically pragmatic and only have a very rigid myopic tactical view. He didn’t have the players for his set up but enforced it anyway. Was only likely to end in tears.
22 May 2025 11:33:23
Honestly, i think Amorim is the least of their worries, and if what MKS says is true then i don't think 16th is too much of a problem either. I would even go as far as to say it is a better result for United to not have to play in Europe next year.
Essentially, Amorim came in and played his system, showing the higher ups how he intends to play and exactly where the team needs investment. They didn't get relegated, don't have the burden of Europe, and i think it will be better for them to invest in players that aren't strictly coming for a paycheck or european nights. It forces them to actually build something rather than trying to brute force and buy their way back to the top like they have been trying to do since Fergie left.
22 May 2025 11:39:23
Doesn't matter, VV. That squad will kill any manager's career. Been saying it, that squad is a coach killer and with that true piece of work named Bruno as capt., you're really asking to fail.
Amorim went there and was in over his head about how he could change a squad that had gotten managers before him sacked. That's on him and his over-blown ego.
22 May 2025 11:44:46
He’s a big part of the problem but the rot had already set in.
Needs an overhaul to turn that tanker round, not just a decent manager.
The probably should have tried to keep Ragnick as a consultant. He knows how to run a cub.
22 May 2025 11:53:59
Blown off their perch like a lead balloon.
Manu are run like a tuck shop.
22 May 2025 11:58:43
Tbh Viktor, you could be describing Ange at Spurs too and that description wouldn't have been amiss. Only difference is that they won the final.
22 May 2025 14:18:52
True Dracred, but Spurs now have champions league money and United don’t, not being in that is crippling for them as a club, they might be able to take a hit for one season, but two? They also lose £10m from adidas as well for not being in the champions league. Given they were on the edge of getting a points deduction for PSR this season, I reckon they might get one next season which I’m sure we can all agree, will be hilarious.
22 May 2025 14:26:22
Drac, Ange set his entire team up to sit behind the ball once they went up in the 19th minute from a united mistake. They had 0 shots on or off target in the second half and had less than 30% possession.
I think the suggestion that amorim hasn't tried to change things to get results is a bit overblown. He actually has tried tinkering with different things but if people expect him to start playing four at the back, he's quite certainly not going to do that. He was hired to play this system, it's on the higher ups who hired him rather than on amorim for any supposed tactical rigidity. His style needs pace on the wings, an athletic and mobile pivot, two 10s who run non stop and a selfless killer in the box. United have none of these, though in diallo and dorgu he does at least have two functional wingbacks.
I also don't think it's fair that you bash Bruno, Oli, he is by far their best player and as much as we hate him for being a rubbishhouse and a diver and everything else, he has actually put in a ton of effort on and off the ball for them this year, amorim was basically playing him as a 6 for parts of this year. I dislike him very much as a player but he is certainly not a bad apple for them. It would probably be in their best interests to see if they can get money for him, maybe from Saudi, because they are just too reliant on him for everything they do.
22 May 2025 15:10:45
Spot on, Johnny_Bellwhiff. Absolute dumpster fire of a club. Long may it continue.
22 May 2025 15:54:49
Yeah, that was surprising from Ange. I'm still reminded of the game they had against Chelsea where they went down to 9 men (I think) and still tried to play a high line. I think no one saw it coming that Spurs would play defensive yesterday but it did work for them.
Amorim changed the personnel but the game plan was essentially the same each game actually. It was mainly just trying out which players suits his system best instead of changing the system to fit the players. I still think he would stay until at least the beginning of next season though, to get the existent players familiar with his system and to get new players who would already be. But if results don't improve, I can see him being dismissed after the first 10 games. Tbh, he does seem to be begging to be let go after his comments about not needing compensation so it could also mean that he has realised that Utd are a bigger rubbishshow than he initially realised and wants out ASAP.