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14 Aug 2025 15:18:07
I've just been reading that Wissa is not available for Brentford this weekend due to his desire to join Newcastle.

There are rumours that he is training alone and has threatened to go on strike if he is not allowed to join Newcastle.

I'm now waiting for Dango Ouattara to go on strike at Bournemouth to try and force a move to Brentford to replace Wissa. Maybe then the Isak dominoes will start to fall?



{Ed025's Note - its player power racing to the top SK, these players think they can do what the bloody hell they want, personally i would sack them and take them to court for breach of contract mate..

14 Aug 2025 15:27:55
Wissa is a replacement for Wilson rather than isak, so I don't think it will make a huge difference to our chances of signing isak. A replacement for isak would be somebody like Jackson.



14 Aug 2025 15:31:29
If you sacked them wouldn’t they just join the club they wanted to anyway and use their signing bonus to pay any court fees?



14 Aug 2025 15:59:05
I think the whole thing needs reforming.

Personally I’d try linking transfer fees to wages.

2 transfer windows still, players released or wages reviewed on the first day of each transfer window.

No contracts, transfer fee is half weekly wage converted to Millions, e. g. Isak £120,000pw = £60M transfer fee. Salah £350,000pw = £175M. Curtis Jones £15,000pw = £7.5M

Players have freedom to move clubs but clubs are always compensated unless they choose to release a player.

Limited number of registered players and loaned out/ in players to stop clubs stock piling players.



14 Aug 2025 15:42:11
I can't argue with that Ed.



{Ed025's Note - just to address Thunderbirds point SK, i would hold their registration until the matter was resolved, and of course they would get no wages..

14 Aug 2025 16:32:14
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire saga, it is that having a tantrum and throwing a massive wobbly will get you everything you want in life. Now, if you'll excuse me, I am going to go on strike from work and get that raise I have always wanted. Then, once that succeeds, I will shout at Emma Watson that I never had an interest in a romantic relationship anyway, and the cards will fall in place.

Will keep you all posted on this, not that you care.



{Ed025's Note - love it Mango..

14 Aug 2025 17:45:33
Refuse to play = no pay until you do!



{Ed025's Note - count me in Hoof it..

14 Aug 2025 18:06:21
@Mango, I don’t think Emma Watson will be that hard to get, after all, Harvey Weinstein has been there.

Good luck with your Wobblies.



14 Aug 2025 18:06:23
Especially the Emma Watson bit! ?.



14 Aug 2025 18:16:35
I'm pretty sure clubs can already withold pay to a player who is refusing to meet their contractual obligations.

The issue is it becomes a messy legal affair which most clubs would rather not engage in because it's very easy to spin a "greedy evil club" narrative and most clubs not playing in barcodes don't like that.



14 Aug 2025 18:29:34
I don't think you can just sack someone for taking industrial action. And I'm sure Isak's team will be advising him to play by the rules.
Obviously, I don't know what it is going and who has said what and who is refusing to do whatever but I'd be shocked if Isak does get the sack. Or any top players for orchestrating a move; it just doesn't happen.
Again, I have no idea and I can see all three sides of this but I can see Liverpool and Isak getting what they want.



{Ed001's Note - you can't sack someone for exercising their rights. He has a right to go on strike, just like there is a legal right to give notice to leave a job which he has been denied. He hasn't pretended to be injured like Coutinho did, he has just told them he wants to leave.}

14 Aug 2025 18:38:31
Have some class. That fivehead of hers is deeply offputting. Rachel Weisz is ageless and a Red.



14 Aug 2025 19:09:22
I'm with you on this, Ed001.
Sacking someone for going on strike should not just happen. And it won't happen.
Clubs will know they can't do it and players will know what they can and can't do.
I can understand Newcastle's frustrations but clubs also use players and contract situations for their own benefits. Newcastle being one of them.



{Ed001's Note - bloody hell did we just agree? I need to sit down.

The contracts situation does need looking at, if anybody else is in a job and unhappy they don't have to either put up with it for years or force their way out. There has to be a compromise somewhere. In any other job, the maximum notice period is one month, iirc.}

14 Aug 2025 19:25:38
Pierre Van Hoojidonk went on strike to leave his club in the 98/ 99 season, 3/ 4 years after the Bosman rule went into effect. R9 did the exact same thing to force a move from Inter, a club that persevered with him thru out his injury nightmare for 2/ 3 years and other issues to go to RM, to the great disappointment of the Inter fans and the honorable hairman Moratti who loved him like his own son.

At the end of the day, there is literally NOTHING a club can do cos this has a lot more to do with labor laws than footie laws, IMO. Sacking a player or witholding someone's license in this scenario? Yeah, good luck with that. If that was possible then, why have clubs not done so? Maybe cos they can't.



14 Aug 2025 19:37:24
We did, Ed001; it must be the weather again!

The contract thing is a can of worms and well beyond me.



{Ed001's Note - something needs to change. Can't be doing with this agreeing thing! Just kidding, I mean with the contract thing. I remember having to represent myself at a disciplinary hearing, because my union rep lied to me and shafted me in the back as soon as we got in the hearing and took the company's side. Even though I knew I was in the right, and proved it too. But still handed in my notice afterwards. I couldn't have done a year or two more just because I was tied into a contract. I would have ended up in jail for murder. To be fair it was a hellhole to work at, I can remember turning up one morning to start my shift, only been there about a month, and walked into the locker room and tripped over a chair that was on its side right in the way. I was just about to start having a moan when I rolled over to get up and spotted a lad off the other shift hanging in the doorway. Apparently he had been there hours and no one had bloody noticed!}

15 Aug 2025 01:21:03
That’s grim Ed. Sorry to had to experience that.



{Ed001's Note - it has never really registered to be honest. It is not the first time I have seen someone like that. I can remember one day me nan complaining about someone knocking on the back gate. Just thump, thump, thump over and over. When she opened it, there was someone there had been hung we think and his feet were banging against the gate. That was worse as I was just a kid and I used to hate going down the jiggers after that.}

 
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