Liverpool banter 10

04 Dec 2025 12:26:39
The run of defeats are horrible and so different to what we’ve become used to over the past few years but it’s the lack of effort, desire or even ambition that has me feeling most sick. I’ve never wanted a manager to go (except hodgson) but I’m really fed up of slot. I’m sick and tired of his interviews after games. Every opposition goal is down to their good luck and every chance we miss is down to our bad luck. I can’t get my head around paying £150m for a striker and then not playing to his strengths or at least involving him. Btw the way I’m not saying none of it’s down to him, he’s been terrible but tell the wingers to provide for him or they’re coming off and stick to the threat. Gakpo has scored quite a few goals I accept but surely a pro footballer has to have more to his game than everytime cutting inside and shooting (sometimes scoring) but rarely passing.

Kerkez doesn’t even bother to over lap him anymore as he’s NEVER getting the ball and he’s just going to leave himself out of position again. He’s been terrible but why buy a fb that was brilliant last season and then make him play a totally different role. McAllister definitely has to have inappropriate pictures of slot with an animal. He was just unreal last season but he’s just been (no other way to describe it) so so so bad so far this season. No point in even talking about van dijk or konate. We are wasting Ali’s final years and I’m not convinced mamardashvilli is good enough. I don’t blame anyone for not reading this far (I probably wouldn’t) and sorry for the essay but I needed to vent.

{Ed025's Note - im a massive fan of Ali DH but i dont think he was great yesterday either mate, the infection seems to be spreading..

04 Dec 2025 13:39:21
Thought ali poor last nite as well, his worst game in a long time. He got lucky with 1 that hit crossbar as well.
Probably rustiness after injury, no doubt he be back to normal shortly.

{Ed025's Note - hopefully Digger, his kicking was poor as well for him mate..

04 Dec 2025 13:54:14
The only way I can describe it is the slow play is like a poison. Doing things slow doesn't sharpen the mind, and it then breeds complacency throughout the team.

I am all for drawing out the opposition but it feels like we never do anything quick. I remember one scenario with Wirtz where we did to get in the box and then he pulled it into the danger area. I feel very Clarkson in saying this, but speed is the answer. Doing things quick means the opposition has less time to react. Right now we are just playing in front of opponents, make a mistake, get broken through and it leads to a good chance for the opposition.

Then add to that the 4-3-3 doesn't suit the players we bought and it leaves us vulnerable constantly with very little threat.

I thought he stumbled on the way forward against West Ham, but after that woeful 45mins yesterday he reverted back to the system that hasn't been working for the season. Which leaves me drawing the only conclusion that he is stuck in his ways and something needs to give.

I grew up in Leeds, so not particularly looking forward to Saturday as I have an awful feeling we are going to lose and I will not hear the end of it!

04 Dec 2025 12:56:23
100% agree. I’m just saying he’s proven himself to be absolutely brilliant but even he’s looking bad/ less good. The whole buzz/ confidence is gone from the team and the fans. Last year I honestly thought it was wrong at the time. As soon as we had won the league he stopped demanding standards. He let the players fly here, there and everywhere, as did he. That would never have been allowed under klopp, Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Pep or possibly even Arteta.

They would’ve all gone for the jugular and won the league by as many points as possible. I know a 1 point win is enough but winning is a habit as is playing well. Out from the very odd occasion I’d argue that we haven’t played at all well since we clinched the league last season.

04 Dec 2025 12:57:43
It’s not like we have a whole lot of quality in depth in midfield though, particularly midfielders who can actually defend, and even then, Slot clearly has a pathological dislike of defensive midfielders. Was hoping West Ham was a corner, but it feels like a fluke result and an outlier.

04 Dec 2025 11:58:37
I agree with that 25. Spreading. Szobo been decent all season and he was also Miles off it last night.

04 Dec 2025 17:41:14
How is McConnell doing at Ajax? I was disappointed to see him go out on loan, as he’s always looked class - and we look a little light in midfield options.

04 Dec 2025 11:56:59
ED001, surely its time for Slot to be gone, heard a few people on here saying the fans are behind him . i know a few sang his name when we beat West ham but majority can see its more than not working this season .

so why do you think the reason he is still here . is it that there isn't any credible alternatives at this moment, if not a interim has got to come in, it can't be any worse than what's on offer.

{Ed001's Note - Edwards and Hughes personally chose him, he is their man, they believe in him and so are giving him as much time as possible to turn things round.}

04 Dec 2025 12:07:17
This is why I said Hughes should be held to account yesterday. Not saying we shouldn’t sack slot definitely should, but saying his position should be looked at as well.

04 Dec 2025 12:27:30
To me it looks obvious that Slot's vision for how the team should play is completely inappropriate for the premier league, almost like a fantasy that he concocted.
Thinking he could solve two of the issues under Klopp (end of season fatigue and injuries) by changing training to rondo's and banishing the lactate test without considering the consequences is amateur and egotistical.

I appreciate that Diogo's passing may be hanging heavy around the place, and we can't really quantify the effect this has had, but it seems obvious to me that Slot lacks certain leadership qualities and is a bit of a legend in his own mind.

We have gone from heavy metal football to supermarket music in the space of 18 months. The Athletic called this last summer - Slot's tactical set up provides diminishing returns after season 1.

I get that Eddie and Rich have to stick their choice, but how far can this go? We play awful football and are easy to play against.

Slot's vision is not working and he has no solutions. He didn't even sound sincere when he finally accepted the blame.

Eds, what can be done? Iraola would have L4 bouncing in no time, in my opinion. The crowd loves to see fight in the players. Under Slot its like everyone had a fat joint before the game.

04 Dec 2025 12:42:35
You would honestly think a loss at Leeds and it's curtains. Get Stevie G and Gary Mcallister in for a bit of a bounce over Xmas and work on a permanent replacement.

04 Dec 2025 12:49:06
It's only a matter of time now.

The players are defeated. The fans are flat. He looks dejected.

I assume the suits are actively lining up the next man as there's been nothing to suggest it can turned around. We started last night's game like we didn't want to be there.

It's just sad isn't it?

04 Dec 2025 13:41:59
Heavy metal football left in 2020 after our league title under Klopp. So I don't get why people keep saying that we should return to it. We've not played it for at least 5 years now. What we do need is intensity and purpose to our play.

It's so slow and disorganised. Even last seasons football, even though it wasn't high octane was better as we could see what the plan was. There isn't one this season.

04 Dec 2025 13:52:21
The only thing I will say in Slots defence is that the transition away from the aggressive Klopp style wasn't just him. We were heading that way under Pep Ljinders for two seasons before Slot came in anyway. Difference being then we had peak Ali, VVD, a hard working defensively focused midfield and Salah on fire to cover the deficits to the style of play. For me this coalesced into the best version of what this could be last season with the PL win, and whilst it was great, I put this down more to other top teams being off the pace rather than us being brilliant. Fast forward to now and Slots refusal to play a DM, lack of a physical game plan, other teams getting back to high standards and VVD and Salah falling off a cliff have all coalesced into the worst version of what this style could be.


Just my take, but for my part I have been saying the standard of footy has been poor for at least 3 years, relying more on individual moments of pure class rather than being a good 'team'. Weird as it sounds, the current situation doesn't really suprise me that much.
We need to transition to something that makes the most of the future of this team, without Salah, without VVD, and based on his inability to make it happen, without Slot either.

04 Dec 2025 12:59:57
With respect to Gerrard and McAllister, given their managerial CV’s, neither of them should be even thought about for this as they’re proven failures.

04 Dec 2025 14:04:10
If hughes and edwards are backing him, which is fine, but slot is taking the p. by not even improving 1 aspect of the game.

04 Dec 2025 14:44:24
I get that VV but surely just to fire these players up for a few weeks whilst someone suitable is found couldn't be any worse than what were seeing?

04 Dec 2025 15:54:00
Thing is Ernest, being diplomatic about this, Gerrard is a complete and utter personality vacuum and I can’t see him remotely being able to motivate anyone let alone a bunch of underperforming millionaires, he certainly couldn’t do it at Villa or out in Saudi. To call him a dullard is an understatement. He really should not be in contention or the discussion.

Let’s just remember what happened at United with Solskaer and Chelsea with Lampard as that’s the most likely outcome with Gerrard. Great players, but all the personality of a weekend in Slough.

04 Dec 2025 18:42:45
100% with you Viktor. Regards to Macallister, the players wouldn't even know who he was.

04 Dec 2025 21:29:25
Cheers for the reply ED001.hopefully something will be sorted sooner rather than later.

04 Dec 2025 11:10:44
We have now become doubters from believers!

04 Dec 2025 11:53:57
That’s what a run of awful defeats and even worse performances does to you.

04 Dec 2025 13:31:17
This is what happens when a manager does not have the psychological make up required to lead elite sports players.
There is a reason that Jurgen was 'rented out' by FSG to leadership conferences.
Slot is a decent coach for a tier 2 league side. Admitting that teams come to L4 expecting to get something is the final curtain.

Beef Curtains to Slot!

04 Dec 2025 13:49:17
Totally agree Rover.

04 Dec 2025 14:26:58
Ya think, Clarkkent?

04 Dec 2025 16:31:54
Slot has just ruined all the hard work built up from the Klopp reign in a matter of months!

04 Dec 2025 10:17:24
Hi Eds + ITK’s,

Question about Semenyo. Confirming that he would count as a HG player if he were to sign for us?

Cheers lads.

04 Dec 2025 11:01:27
Not an Ed, not ITK, but he would count as homegrown. National team allegiance plays no part, Semenyo was born in London and (I believe) and was "trained" by Bristol City.

04 Dec 2025 11:43:41
You think he’ll still want to sign?! 🤔.

04 Dec 2025 11:51:17
Of course. Any players with half a brain can see we are a few tweaks and maybe a managerial change away from being elite again. Plus the prestige and lure of Liverpool/ Anfield.

04 Dec 2025 13:33:51
FORNAX Can we have some more of your cryptic posts please - you seemed most intent on supporting Slot, which is admirable. Where do you stand now having witnessed the tepid gruel he's been serving up lately?

Rondos, sideways passing, plodding about waiting for Godot.

{Ed025's Note - he would want the manager of IKEA in Warrington MrB.. :)

04 Dec 2025 13:53:55
Lol not sure why any player would want to join us over City or Arsenal right now! Managerial change is coming a mile off and everyone can see it plus there is no guarantee we will get CL footy if we carry on as we have been.

04 Dec 2025 10:02:30
So the league is finished

Damn … it’s just sad to not be amongst it

Kinda defeats the purpose of being at a top club I would say.

04 Dec 2025 11:02:02
You aren't at a top club though, I guess.

04 Dec 2025 09:39:49
There's desperation in the air. Everyone can witness it but feel it now. For this to be allowed to prolong is going to damage us long term. We're not getting champions league under this regime.
Why have we been allowed to throw away a season because there's "belief" in a head coach. Half a season is near and the performances and results would have got him sacked at any other massive club which are few BTW.

Hughes came from Bournemouth and Edwards is content now with no challenging from klopp. If this does continue, we've had 3 journey men lead us into the oblivion this season with ramifications down the line.

04 Dec 2025 09:37:57
For the talent they’ve got, Liverpool might be the worst-coached team in Europe right now. Terrible both on and off the ball, can’t press, can’t keep any momentum going. It’s a tactical disaster, and it’s not like all these players suddenly forgot how to play over the summer.

There was this moment yesterday in the second half where we won the ball back, Wirtz had loads of space, and I thought we were about to launch a counter. But then I saw it, only Salah ahead of him, surrounded by three defenders, and everyone else just stood still. Wirtz had to slow it down and start another boring attack.

What’s happened to this team? No aggressive pressing, no fast transitions, just players standing around waiting for a miracle. It’s honestly infuriating to watch.

What really pisses me off is that Slot has completely killed Klopp’s “doubters to believers” philosophy. He’s turned it on its head.

04 Dec 2025 12:44:59
Agree with that, there were many similar situations yesterday, you work all day looking forward to these games and just see no fire or energy.

04 Dec 2025 14:27:37
"For the talent they’ve got, Liverpool might be the worst-coached team in Europe right now. "


Mate, you ain't never lied.

04 Dec 2025 09:20:04
I paused last night and didn’t post because I was half in shock at that performance but to also give it time to process this sh** show.

Given the pressure the manager is under and all the scrutiny the squad is getting I fully expected us to go out for the late kick off under the lights at Anfield and put them under some serious pressure. What we got was a tepid, sideways, backwards low tempo masterclass on how to kill momentum. Make no mistake we were fully controlled and dominated by a promoted side at home. Only for a last ditch stop from Chiesa we would and should have been beaten! This result should not be allowed to paper over any cracks. Our manager is starting to sound like ETH where he rewrites the narrative of the game when we all have eyes and can see the problems! The manager needs to go, honestly the press in the 1st half is enough to get any manager the sack, absolutely embarrassing, personally I don’t think there is a fitness issue or mobility issue there is a space issue, the gap from front to back is way to much, defence is dropping off, attackers pushing up and our midfield in no mans land isolated so we are never close enough to make an effective tackle. Compound all this with crazy subs, square pegs in round holes and a team that are clearly after downing tools and all u can say is the writing is on the walls, only question is when do the exec team shoot the bullet?

04 Dec 2025 10:19:05
Dow-ney

Agreed 👍👍

What does our alleged manager say after the match.? "There were positives. "

The only positive can be that Slot goes ASAP.

04 Dec 2025 10:22:15
How can a team of so called elite management get it so wrong nearly every game. They (and I say they because it’s not just Slot) come up with those horrendous tactics last night. We are at home to a newly promoted team and got done.

We were so lucky that chiesa hasn’t down tools otherwise it would have been another loss. Slots responds” we were unlucky “ grow some balls and sack them, this includes the fitness coach!

04 Dec 2025 09:52:11
I might go PopWorld tonight and have a word with him

No doubt he’ll be in there 😂.

04 Dec 2025 10:55:52
Downey, I was going to post the exact same thing. Like you, I've had it up to my eyeballs with this wretched system. It is literally sucking the life out of me. I watched that game and it reminded me of BR's pathetic "pass, pass, pass and then, "recycle possession" and then, rinse then, repeat of 14/ 15.

Seriously, how can you try to break down a team without making them think?

a) How can you try to beat the opposition with no incisive passing hence, making them commit?

b) How can you play such a slow, lethargic system where the only thing we are good that is "making sure we do NOT lose the ball"?

Had Sunderland won that game (which they should have), it would have been so fitting. The only thing better than that was that it was Chiesa who (not for the first time) saved his blushes from abject humiliation, as if the battering from PSV didn't already do that.
Let's be clear: Chiesa embarrassed Slot for the whole world to see and I loved it cos he has treated this true gent like floor rag all season. There's a reason a whole stadium sings his name when his name is announced or when he goes to warm up.

Now you say this reminds you of Ten Hag at Utd and I get it. For me, this reminds me of BR circa 14/ 15 where he knew his system was useless BUT cos his ego won't make him change, he kept playing it just to prove a point that he was competent whereas he was the Emperor with NO clothes.

Hence from last night on, I am officially checked out. This season is a write off cos to me, Slot will NOT change how we play. He seems to be out to prove us all wrong rather than do what is best for the team and make us a competitive team, something we all know we can be as shown this season already vs Villa and RM.

Therefore, he is only out for himself and once that happens, a manager loses my support and once that happens, Get Out Of My Club.

Thankfully as I will never want my team to lose so the manager should go, the club are assessing their options so at least, we know they are not fools and can see what we all see so Im fine with that.

All about the vibes for me now. We win? Great. We don't win? Such is life.

Oh, and one last thing. Good luck at Elland Road come Sun., Arne. If you think Leeds can't embarrass you like they did Chelsea then, you are off your meds.

04 Dec 2025 11:53:51
It is a half arse press.

Isak and Wirtz doing a lot of running being played around like monkey in sunderland training session with 1/ 3 of Anfield pitch with no one backing them up.

Clearly the midfield and defence being asked to drop back, either afraid that Sunderland will players through us or play over us.

Unbelievable what I’m watching.

04 Dec 2025 12:47:06
It’s funny you mention it with the press. Graeme Le Saux said it during the match last on Peacocks Broadcast. Flat out said LFC is all about pressure and making teams uncomfortable when visiting Anfield yet this team has completely changed from last year.

There’s no sustained press, they look disjointed and slow to everything, you wouldn’t believe they were the same team from last year. Slot needs to go back to basics from last year. He further said how can they not see the difference from last year.

04 Dec 2025 14:40:49
BERGENRED, I have no idea why people seem shocked that we aren't pressing anymore. IMO, the last time (s) we had a full press in a game was against Villa and RM, games where ironically, we played the system that won us the title last season. Ain't seen a full press since.

Also, I disagree with Le Saux (awesome guy and a good pundit), too) . Slot does see the diff. from last season. The issue here is that he NO longer wants to play that way anymore except when forced to do so like Villa and RM.

I asked Ed01 this specific question and he confirmed it. Per Ed01 indeed, this slow, regressive "sucking the life out of me" type footie is THE way Slot really wants to play and come hell or high water (regardless of the humiliations we keep getting), he is sticking with it, as shown last season. So we are now being subjected to wretched footie with the batterings that come with it just so he can prove a point? Nah, ain't having it.

Like I said in my post, Slot is trying to prove those who question his tactics wrong. Trying to say that only he and his bros. in the staff know best and the rest of us who question him are all fools who don't know what they are seeing. Many managers have done this so Slot is not a new phenomenon here.

So for me, the guy can flex his ego and all that BUT not at the expense of my club. Go do that elsewhere, mate. That's all Im saying, respectfully.

04 Dec 2025 08:48:03
How long can Slot stay in the job, we are getting worse and worse.
We ain’t getting top 4 at this rate.

04 Dec 2025 09:40:15
Because there's two men equal to his level above.

04 Dec 2025 10:21:45
"Ain't getting too 4 at this rate. "

Getting a big fat zero instead.

The manager seems so pleased with himself.

04 Dec 2025 10:56:50
To me, Slot will go when the board says so and not before. It's the way the club operate, based on precedent.

04 Dec 2025 11:32:43
Oli, isn't that the way every club operates, or am I missing something? They certainly don't react to a few folk whingeing on a fans forum.

04 Dec 2025 14:43:16
You're right, Rome. They don't and they shouldn't.

04 Dec 2025 07:54:49
Really poor again last night. Been to every home game bar Madrid so far this season and I would say that’s one of the worst I’ve watched. Results might have been worse in others but at least you felt we may score a few and give ourselves a chance in some of them, last night we created literally nothing.

The substitutions are so so poor at the moment, and the system is just blowing me mind. First half Wirtz was picking up good pockets and the solution to this was to stick him wide left and put szobo who’s movement had been decent as well into the ten. It completely backfired and until we were desperate with ten to go it was so hard to watch.

The system of having fairly one footed full backs who can put a decent ball in but are not great passers and ball players generally like Robbo, Gomez and kerkhez inverting while we have players like salah and Wirtz trying to cut in our side just makes no sense whatsoever. There was a passage of play where we had the ball for 5 mins in the second half and it was constantly wirtz wide left knocking the ball the robbo on the edge and I just couldn’t believe what I was watching it’s so basic and obvious that those two should be swapped.

04 Dec 2025 07:22:39
It’s got to the point where we are Worse at home.

It’s so slow. It’s boring. Formation and Style don’t suit the current squad.

The plan: Just Crawl to January and throw more money at it.

04 Dec 2025 09:11:04
Am fuming with what’s happening to our club. How long is Hughes going to leave it before slot gets sacked. I’d I’ve let under 21 manager have a go because Nothing is changing, absolutely nothing. It’s got to the point where am thinking Hughes isn’t the right person either if he’s just going to keep letting this happen.

We are literally a laughing stock from tactics to fitness to subs It’s beyond embarrassing.

04 Dec 2025 09:36:19
Alex, I was there with you last night, stood on the Kop. Is your feeling the same as mine, that he still has the backing of the home support? I know talking to blokes he still has the backing of the away following. His song was sang yesterday, albeit not that vociferous. Call it blind faith, or whatever, but everyone I speak to can't think of anyone who can come in, who can turn things around, that's available.

After the PSV game I said on here that it was perhaps time for a change, but I've since shifted back to supporting him again, purely because there's no Klopp or Ancelotti to turn to, like in 2015.

I honestly don't know what the answer is. I'll turn up for the Brighton game, with 60k others, expecting to see an improvement, and so on and so on. I, along with everyone else on here, never saw this coming. We can only have hope in our hearts. Blah de blah.

04 Dec 2025 11:00:30
For me, it is up to the point that I am now personally checked out of this season. That performance is the way Slot wants to play and I just can stand the life being sucked out of me watching my club play such clueless, pathetic style where the aim is to keep the ball rather than actually try to win the damn game.

I will never want my team to lose so the manager can go BUT as long as we are looking to replace this geezer then, Im cool with that cos in the end, he will eventually go. Enjoy the vibes cos this season is a write off, IMO.

04 Dec 2025 11:32:49
Rome, I agree, there's no Klopp or equivalent stature out there, but Iraola would be available. They just need to put that wheel in motion. That could be done quite quickly I would imagine. I know they may pine for Alonso but 1.

It might never happen 2. He'd be no more a guarantee of success than Iraola. They're all just gambles one way or another, but as Donald would say "you don't have the cards" for success if we stick with Slot. Unfortunately.

04 Dec 2025 18:07:20
I’ll be honest Rome, I think the atmosphere was the worst I have ever heard it last night.

Support is a tricky one, I don’t think we are the type of fans to hunt a manager out of call for it but I feel that the whole team is that poor and the season drifting away that people just aren’t feeling the passion or hunger or excitement anymore.

When the goal went in for Sunderland it was a flat silent acceptance and even when we scored, there were celebrations but nothing really over the top. And the only real noise was made in the last five until then I hadn’t heard much atmosphere to speak of, certainly not compared to some of last season and the klopp seasons.

04 Dec 2025 07:37:30
Shout to Chiesa. Thing he deserves his own thread for that effort alone

Was heartening to see the fight from the player, especially given the lack of trust and game time he gets while others who play ahead of him stink out the joint again and again and again.

04 Dec 2025 07:52:05
He embodies the spirit the team requires and deserves a chance. Thought it was a very poor performance all round but Gakpo was really not good. Maybe Chiesa in for Gakpo against Leeds?

04 Dec 2025 07:59:27
It’s a complete joke slot never plays him from the start Sunderland should of won that game we are so slow and boring too watch I even turned off the TV SLOT OUT.

04 Dec 2025 08:26:32
As above turned off at half time, the play is so dour it’s unbelievable with the players we have, slot oot.

04 Dec 2025 08:54:17
Chiesa is not the second coming of jesus. What has he done of note other than score a couple of goals and run around making lots of effort. He tries hard and it is great to see but that’s the bare minimum we should expect off players earning hundred of thousands a week.

A lot of people looking to Chiesa’s absence as a factor to why we are playing poorly yet forget the sitters he missed. I love the guy’s enthusiasm but he’s not much different to Harvey Elliot who also looked top notch when he was brought on in the 81st minute.

04 Dec 2025 10:06:42
What has he done other than score a couple of goals and run around making lots of effort?

lol, this online comment version of Slot's football at the mo. I'm switching off at half-time from replying to you any further lol

Nah jokes, just to explain - NO ONE IS SAYING HE IS THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS.

But! in a squad, we expect competition, players vying for starting spots, players taking chances when they get them. If you are making the case that Chiesa has not made the most of the very limited chances he has been given this season, then I think you must be in the Slot school of favouritsm for a small group of select players.

We want to see players rewarded for playing well. We don't want to see players consistently rewarding for play sh*t

Chiesa has done more than enough this season to earn more minutes than the garbage time he is given. That isn't saying he is prime Ronaldo, it's saying that we have a squad so f***ing use the players at your disposal.

04 Dec 2025 10:27:34
also - what are all these sitters that Chiesa has missed? and ironic bringing up harvey. Slot should have used Harvey more last season too.

04 Dec 2025 10:33:10
Darwin. In his VERY limited minutes he has scored goals, assisted goals, created chances, prevented goals and most importantly he has given 100%. He works his ar$e off and is the embodiment of all of the good things that the rest of the squad are currently severely lacking in. The fact that he is not given a single start in a game over the likes of Gakpo is quite frankly outrageous. The only time he gets to start a game is surrounded by U21 players.

When you have the likes of Virg, Konate, Macca, Gakpo and Salah walking around the pitch and stealing a wage week-in-week-out it jut makes no sense. What we are so severely lacking is players with the hunger and desire of Chiesa in the team. It might be that he is best as an impact sub but he can't be any worse that what Slot is repeatedly selecting.

04 Dec 2025 11:14:20
Darwin respectfully, I ain't trying to hear no chat/ slander of any kind about Chiesa right now esp. after he literally embarrassed Slot for the whole world to see. Imagine trying to project this very good player and and even better gentleman, that he is arse yet when we see him play he gives WAY more effort than some of those proposed to be better than him? That is what Slot is doing and failing it, really.

Chiesa could have quit on the play last night BUT due to his immense mentality and desire NOT to lose, he kept up with the play and foiled it. If you think anyone would have blamed Chiesa for not stopping the goal then, you are gravely mistaken.

Also, the whole "Chiesa is not the second coming. " or the "What has he done? . " blah, blah, blah is just a waste of typing time. Not a soul has said Chiesa was the second coming of diddly squat. Nor have I seen anyone say his absence is the so stop posting stuff nobody actually said.

All people are saying is that they want Chiesa to get the same chances others like Gakpo and even Salah are getting so we can see what he can do esp. since when he comes on, he plays well and scores/ assists on occasion. He clearly can't be that bad cos NOBODY is that good in the attack right now. Please respectfully, try to distinguish the difference.

04 Dec 2025 11:36:24
I can’t recall Chiesa missing a hatful of chances, I can however recall him making a difference in games and showing skill, guile, determination and grit, actually trying to make things happen.

Fact is, if he didn’t make that lung bursting run we lose 2-1 at home. Thank f someone hat the minerals to actually do it. Not often I agree with you Faith, but I absolutely do here.

04 Dec 2025 12:20:55
@Faithinworks. What has he done other than score a couple of goals and run around making lots of effort? You haven’t responded.

Great lung-bursting run from him last night but i don't see why he people are so insistent he’s some kind of unheralded messiah. He tries really hard but that attribute isn’t exceptional, it is expected. He also has more energy because he only plays 10 mins a week. I like him as a player but i don’t see the hype.

@Olired. Respectfully, stopped reading past the first line of your posts years ago.

04 Dec 2025 12:50:11
I was that fed up with the team I support that I turned the telly off.

There’s irony in there somewhere.

04 Dec 2025 15:00:33
Nice dodge, mate. If you can't respond to the facts I put out (supported by other posters like Victor, Faith, Shipley etc. ) then, you could just say so rather than issue such a pathetic dodge.

Your response clearly shows that Slot is not the only one Chiesa embarrassed last night at this point. Sad for both of you.

And one last thing: You have responded to my posts in the recent past so I know you read this one.

04 Dec 2025 06:54:27
The only game I’ve enjoyed watching this calendar year was the Madrid game. I’ve now fallen into the acceptance that we’re likely to lose whenever we play at the moment. We need a bit of spark and identity back as currently we’re losing all of that which took a long time to be rebuilt by Klopp.

04 Dec 2025 09:12:03
Didn't enjoy beating Spurs 5-1 to clinch the league title earlier this year then?

04 Dec 2025 09:40:57
Funnily enough we conceded first in that game as well.

04 Dec 2025 10:23:18
Good question, Semi.

04 Dec 2025 10:27:05
Nope, hated it.

04 Dec 2025 11:37:45
To paraphrase the vacuous Tim Lovejoy, it’s only Spurs.

04 Dec 2025 13:22:36
Apparently that was a snooze fest, @Semi. Best snooze fest I ever enjoyed watching personally.

I'll take that over the "pulsating" spectacle I was subjected to last night, I'll tell you that much.