Liverpool Rumours Archive May 11 2019

 

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11 May 2019 23:19:39
We all know as Ed has said Salah’s agent is out looking for a move for him he wants out as much as it kills me let it be it’s a business now it’s not like it was it’s all about money now so sell him on get stupid money for him. He’s been amazing like the others before him and u can thumbs down all u want but it’s the truth! As they sayin goes your only a number or a number in a job! We move on simples wish us the best of luck 2mo!

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{Ed002's Note - But he has been laughed out of Madrid twice because of a couple of the demands - and that is where he really wants to be. He has approached Paris in the past and both Juventus, and Barcelona more than once. I would not expect a move anytime this summer.}

11 May 2019 23:34:05
I can see what your saying Ed but I just don’t understand why players move and sign big long contracts and as soon as they are in the agent goes off looking for another club? i've never doubted you ever over your inside know how and knowledge but how do u stop this carry on? I know your thoughts on agents and leech’s but when does it stop because as long as the money keeps coming I don’t think it will! And cheers for the reply 👍🏼.

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{Ed002's Note - It is how business is conducted. There will be agents talking to Liverpool about players as well.}

12 May 2019 00:49:39
Salah probably needs to have another club make a bid for him before Liverpool can consider selling him. Anything else is just pure speculation.

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12 May 2019 05:12:14
If his dream is to play for another club, we should work with him and his agent to make it happen. As we did with Coutinho. And ensure we get a huge fee.

He is certainly not irreplaceable.

Last season was amazing. But he has had his career year.

There are at least half a dozen players in the EPL alone who could post the stats he posted this season.

And given his eagerness for publicity and media exposure, he is probably not the best fit for our club.

Like Ronaldo and 'Neymar, he becomes a distraction.

And like Coutinho, I suspect his departure will be his loss, not ours.

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12 May 2019 06:39:19
Salah is not easily replaceable and if you think he is you know very little about football. This year Salah has had to cope with a lot more attention and that is why other fans started calling him a diver during the Winter period. He had to adapt to the pressure put on him and whilst he is no diver in my opinion he did play the rules of the game over this Winter period and took the fall when he was being held back. I think next season we will see an improved Salah as this has been a tough year on him with the recovery from the shoulder injury and the disappointment of last years CL Final, Egypt WC and the extra man handling he has been receiving. This year should have toughened him up and he knows the team can perform without him as per the Barcelona game so he is by no means carrying this team. I think he will find more freedom next year in his play and with the extra awareness and improvements of Sadio, Bobby, Keita, Robbo and Trent around him will allow his to move up another level. Exciting times for the Redman - YNWA!

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12 May 2019 06:50:30
We’re talking about a player who is an incredible human and role model, and currently in pole position for the golden boot two years running. And yet a rumour on this site about his agent shopping him around and some people are talking about letting him walk out the door?

There’s no question in my mind that Liverpool are capable of challenging RM and Barcelona for top honours on a regular basis for years to come if we keep Klopp and this squad together, especially with all the rebuilding work many other top clubs need to do. We should be trying to convince him that Liverpool is the best place for him to spend the next few years for titles (and frankly i 100% believe it’s true) .

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12 May 2019 07:11:13
UNless Salah kicks up a fuss and becomes a nuisance in the dressing room, we should be holding on to him. We need to build on what we have achieved this season and look to go one better in the league next season, and salah is integral to that.

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12 May 2019 08:27:48
As the Ed's have said this goes on all the time, and has happened to us on numerous occasions. The Club seem to be now better equipped to deal with this. Salah Mane and Bobby are all on big contracts, if you want them show us the money. Turbo Timo Werner and Julian Brandt would be great replacements. We could most probably get both with the sale of one of these players. Don't get me wrong I don't want them to leave, but Salah continues to try and get a move. He's in a top club in arguably the best league and still wants to leave. I've said it before you don't get loyalty from footballers especially foreign ones. I've now excepted this as part of football, even though it totally does my nut in. Come on red men today YNWA.

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12 May 2019 09:56:27
Ed002 do you have any idea why he wants to move?

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{Ed002's Note - He will see it as a step up and he knows that this year could be now or never for Real Madrid - but they aren't interested any longer.}

12 May 2019 10:03:35
Let's park this topic for another day.

Today could be one of the best days ever and we should all be focused on today's games.

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12 May 2019 10:10:36
Wat are his silly demands that real Madrid are laughing at?

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12 May 2019 11:07:38
Ed02 summed it up perfectly, it really is not difficult to understand. We as fans think Liverpool is the best club in the world, but many players regard Real Madrid and Barcelona as the pinnacle of football.
Salah like others before him see Liverpool as a stepping stone before moving on to to an even better club. No different to Van dijk, Mane etc leaving Southampton to join us as they are simply making the next step in their careers.
I honestly do not care whether Salah leaves or not, he is a great player but that's the nature of the business, which is what football is.

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12 May 2019 12:31:44
We win the double and were the pinnacle! with Barcelona in Spain nd Barca, Us, City and the likes of PSG in Europe i can see a few barren years for Madrid.

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12 May 2019 13:01:11
Imagine your a football agent, you have no ties or strong feelings towards a club. It's a job and your in it to get paid.

You only get paid when one of your clients moves clubs, so what do you think you are going to spend most of your time doing?

The whole system is wrong. There should be a fixed fee that an agent is paid, and that fee is the same whether its a contract renewal or signing for another club.

At the moment its a racket with few regulations and even fewer that are up held by the authorities. Mino Riola demanding as much as 20% of a transfer fee as an agents fee. In any world that is insane, in one where transfer fees are spiralling out of control and in some cases are north of 100m that is sickening.

If he negotiated the Neymar deal at 20% he would have "earned" 44.4m euros. That money pouring out of football is one of the reasons we have teams going bankrupt.

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12 May 2019 13:33:13
On the subject of Liverpool being seen as a stepping stone, that may be true for some. I think that TAA, Robertson, Henderson and possibly Firminho and Gomez are the only ones who don't view Liverpool that way. Regarding Salah, I don't see him leaving this summer, but if he does, thank you very much and we move on. Ed 01 has said before that Paisley was ruthless, how do you all think he would handle this situation? I know, different times, but it's interesting. If he knew that an agent was actively shopping a player, I wonder how he would have handled that.

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12 May 2019 14:08:25
I don't any fan can complain about a player wanting to leave. They would be quick enough to fire a player out the door if they didn't think he was good enough. It can't be only one way. If the club are happy enough to move players on when it suits them then they have to accept it when players themselves want to move on.

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12 May 2019 17:22:57
We need to deal with Salah the way Rafa dealt with Owen, whose agent was also trying to shop him to Real Madrid behind everyone's back, when Rafa took over in 2004.

No drama. No handwringing. No pleading. Rafa simply let him leave. And then led us to trophies.

No one is bigger than the club.

You don't want to be here? Move on.

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12 May 2019 18:54:21
1000% correct, much like Suarez and Coutinho before him, LFC have become stronger with shrewd investment, no one is bigger than the club.

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12 May 2019 21:21:05
if Salah leaves then we'll get a big fee for him and we'll bring someone else in. No player is bigger than the system.

(Maybe Van Dijk is)

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12 May 2019 21:36:06
Maybe if the player had to pay the agents "fee" out of his own pocket and not have it wrapped up in the transfer, players may think twice before wanting or getting shopped around, especially when you see what Salahs agent would make on his percentage of any transfer.

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12 May 2019 22:29:44
The average professional football career in the UK is 8 years (according to the PFA) . So this is the timeline to play a sport you love and to make the maximum amount of money, so that life thereafter is less harsh than it has to be. It's no different than any normal Joe (or Jane) who's looking for a 30% raise each time, hopping from job to job. So that's Salah's side. And the club's side is that he's signed a new contract only last year, has maybe 3 or 5 years (I don't know) still left and he's going nowhere because he is vital and crucial for our drive to win titles and cups. Unless a club comes along and makes it worthwhile for us, as Barcelona did in both Suarez's and Coutinho's case. (I'm convinced we would have earned far more in Suarez's case, if not for his last biting incident, and ban, which forced our hand and reduced our bargaining position) .

I agree with "no one is bigger than the club" completely. But I would put it another way. LFC is a profit-seeking business in the sport entertainment industry. So when we see "business-like" moves by either players or team management, it makes no sense to raise an alarm, and ask "where's the loyalty, devotion, decency etc etc etc". It's just business as usual.

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12 May 2019 21:36:06
Maybe if the player had to pay the agents "fee" out of his own pocket and not have it wrapped up in the transfer, players may think twice before wanting or getting shopped around, especially when you see what Salahs agent would make on his percentage of any transfer.

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12 May 2019 22:29:44
The average professional football career in the UK is 8 years (according to the PFA) . So this is the timeline to play a sport you love and to make the maximum amount of money, so that life thereafter is less harsh than it has to be. It's no different than any normal Joe (or Jane) who's looking for a 30% raise each time, hopping from job to job. So that's Salah's side. And the club's side is that he's signed a new contract only last year, has maybe 3 or 5 years (I don't know) still left and he's going nowhere because he is vital and crucial for our drive to win titles and cups. Unless a club comes along and makes it worthwhile for us, as Barcelona did in both Suarez's and Coutinho's case. (I'm convinced we would have earned far more in Suarez's case, if not for his last biting incident, and ban, which forced our hand and reduced our bargaining position) .

I agree with "no one is bigger than the club" completely. But I would put it another way. LFC is a profit-seeking business in the sport entertainment industry. So when we see "business-like" moves by either players or team management, it makes no sense to raise an alarm, and ask "where's the loyalty, devotion, decency etc etc etc". It's just business as usual.

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13 May 2019 03:57:34
He frustrates me a lot! The amount of times he refuses to pass only to take a wasteful shot or run into a defender is insane.

But we have to be realistic what other wingers can we buy that will finish top scorer 2 seasons running and have a healthy amount of assists? Also the fear factor he brings opens up spaces for the other players, again who can we buy that offers this.

He’s at his peak and as long as he doesn’t demand crazy things from us, I don’t care what his agent does (he’s doing his job! ), we should keep him.

Also there is a risk off trying to find a like for like replacement, i don’t want to waste a season or two trying to buy/ develop our next star. We’re in a very good place right now and the players are focused and familiar with one another. A big player coming could disrupt any momentum we take into next season. It took a while for coutinho to become the main man, as it did for suarez to hit his impressive goal scoring form. Torres is the only star that hit the ground running in recent years.

Let’s do what many of the big clubs do, buy a top forward to compete with the front three. I’m a big fan of dybala.

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13 May 2019 10:32:00
if we manage to keep hold of the current starting 11, we will win silverware next year.

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13 May 2019 12:49:53
Fact is the premier league is the strongest right now! We need to devote our energies on players who want and are proud to play for us. Those that want to leave are always welcome to do so. Look at Coutinho who has virtually ruined his football career; and we don't care.

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13 May 2019 19:54:29
Imagine replacing him with someone who can finish lol.

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14 May 2019 03:32:00
“You only get paid when one of your clients moves clubs, so what do you think you are going to spend most of your time doing? ”

That’s not true is it? Ed002?

Doesn’t the agent get paid a proportion of the clients earnings through football and non-football?

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{Ed002's Note - Not normally. In cases where the agent is arranging commercial deals etc. then there can be additional payments.}

14 May 2019 10:38:05
Do agents not get paid if their client signs a new contract at a club?
Surely they don’t have to move to get some income?

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{Ed002's Note - They may get a small amount for any negotiation but typically not.}

14 May 2019 11:23:08
That's mad I never knew that, no wonder the game is being destroyed by money if that's how agents only make money, I always presumed they were paid by the player they represent all year round.

Thanks for the insight, nice to learn something new.

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14 May 2019 13:28:59
This is the only part of this site that I get really frustrated with. How are people suggesting we'd be better off without Salah?

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