Liverpool Rumours Archive January 12 2018

 

Use our rumours form to send us liverpool transfer rumours.

12 Jan 2018 23:10:43
Keita to join on Sunday.

Believable20 Unbelievable17

13 Jan 2018 00:47:25
I don't believe it one bit, I hope it's true but I can't see it happening.

Agree10 Disagree2

13 Jan 2018 08:06:58
Apparently for 95 million Euro.

Agree2 Disagree6

13 Jan 2018 08:14:25
I think this is what Ed02 was talking about.
If we're silly enough to pay. Then. I don't know. It seems were desperate.

Agree3 Disagree6

13 Jan 2018 11:07:03
City looked "desperate" for Kyle Walker yet look where it's got them.

Agree2 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 11:25:45
We are a little desperate though, we have Hendo injured and playing poorly before that this season, Emre Can who’s mind is elsewhere and is playing poorly recently and Wini who again is playing poorly and someone who personally I don’t rate too highly.
Keita could be the difference in getting into the Champions League next season and the money made from that will dwarf the extra fee we will pay RBL.

Agree4 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 13:53:28
I've read the same. It's all come about because he has set up a Ltd company on companies house. Let's not forget just because he's registered a company doesn't necessarily mean he'll be coming Jan. I would love it if he did tho!

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 22:19:32
Ed002, could you translate this to english for us mere mortals. i've not a clue.
"A company under the name 'NK8 LIMITED' has been registered on the Companies House website. Two people are listed as officers - Naby Deco Keita and Bjorn Alexander Bezemer.
And the website states Keita was appointed as a director on January 11."
unless of course its all nonsense.

Believable1 Unbelievable1

{Ed002's Note - Aside from the bleeding obvious I am not sure what you are wanting. Nobby and his agent seem to have formed a limited company for their plans to make money from sponsorship etc.. obvious RBL are sick of the site of him now - going on strike, taunting the other players over money etc.. This is potentially one rough ride. And a really, really expensive one.}

12 Jan 2018 22:48:05
Ed do you think Nobby is really just an overpriced nob?

Agree1 Disagree1

{Ed002's Note - I can’t blame the player for the price paid, RBL are livid about his i professionalism and taunting other players at the club about money, cars and clothes (?). They are very unhappy he has refused to train with the squad, and he has been very hot and cold on the pitch (again maybe not something to blame the player for).}

12 Jan 2018 22:52:11
seems like a player we will struggle to keep long term once a bigger club comes in for him! So we are going to give RBL more money than the 75 m € already agread upon for next summer plus all the other costs? Wow. we really need new negotiators or just learn to walk away and look at other players.

Agree2 Disagree7

{Ed002's Note - As I have said, well over the odds.}

12 Jan 2018 22:52:53
No wonder the Ed’s need a break, I need one too!

Agree1 Disagree3

12 Jan 2018 23:02:05
Keita seems to make Balotelli seem quite sensible.

Agree3 Disagree8

{Ed002's Note - It would need to be resolved.}

12 Jan 2018 23:11:56
Seems he’s one notch under Balotelli.

Agree0 Disagree6

12 Jan 2018 23:12:54
Tbh, I remember reading this site when Firmino signed and the consensus from the Ed's was we paid well over the odds for him.

Agree15 Disagree2

{Ed002's Note - Right - well beyond his German release clause and the going rate at the time.}

12 Jan 2018 23:22:18
absolutely crazy money . other clubs must piss themselves laughing at us.

Agree2 Disagree10

12 Jan 2018 23:23:29
"Aside from the bleeding obvious"
So what's obvious? i didn't know who Bjorn Alexander Bezemer was.
I didn't know the purpose of companies house.
I didn't know they had to set all that up for sponsorships.
i didn't know they didn't already have this set up.
and i didn't know if this was all related to a move to liverpool.
This is your area of expertise and far from what i know about, so please don't belittle me with calling it bleeding obvious.
I don't belittle you on things i know about which you don't; dress sense, woman, physical health :)

Agree20 Disagree3

{Ed002's Note - Ok Benny, I made the assumption that understand such matters.}

12 Jan 2018 23:35:42
Well i do pride myself on knowing a fair bit on how the world works, however taxes, revenue and customs, vat, limited companies etc etc all that stuff is something i'll never get my head around. Thinking about it, that stuff is 90% of how the world works ha.
I appreciate your comment, and i appreciate your original answer.
Thanks.

Agree3 Disagree1

{Ed002's Note - You are alright Benny.}

12 Jan 2018 23:44:45
would be nice if footballers where exactly that, did exactly that and nothing else. I blame beckham.

Agree8 Disagree1

13 Jan 2018 01:52:03
A couple of comments and now suddenly the guy is below Balotelli? Give me (and Naby) a break. as Ed01 said the guy has probably been trying too hard and the fans are all over his back - no question he wants out and frankly he’s in a tough spot. Let’s make sure when he arrives we support him and judge him on his behavior once we actually see how he does.

Agree16 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 06:11:25
I trust Klopps judgment on Keita.
He may just turn out to be an absolute bargain!

Agree3 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 07:41:27
Over the odds for firmino.

City of the odds for de bruyne

Barcelona have just paid 142 mil for cou

Maybe rbl wouldn't of had these problems if they had just sold the lads. Why good someone against there will because your stubborn bterds lol

He will be class for us and hope he does everything to get out of that place and over to us. Taunt the f out of them.

Agree3 Disagree3

13 Jan 2018 08:04:03
It will only be over the odds if he doesn't improve the team. Klopp somehow makes most players play better than they did at their previous clubsection bar Karius.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 08:21:04
Naby seems to be in a similar position to Emre Can with some of the fans in that when he makes a mistake or whatever, fans accuse him of having his head elsewhere.

To me, Can seems to be behaving very professionally, but the perception is there. If he isn't signing a contract with Liverpool then probably his best option would be to leave before February or suffer abuse from a section of fans who don't seem to understand that football is a job for these players.

Agree2 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 00:06:17
Cheers Edd002 sounds like Balotelli mk 2 is about to de desend on our club, god help us.

Agree0 Disagree6

13 Jan 2018 10:55:13
It's nothing like balotelli. Keita is class and has been one of the most sought after midfielders in the world last couple of seasons. Coutinho faked 2 injuries to not play for us would you say he was like balotelli?

Agree1 Disagree1

13 Jan 2018 11:03:40
VDV that's good point. There's no doubt that Can is acting in a professional manner despite his apparent eagerness to leave. But he's ran his contract down nevertheless and that will cost the club - £25 million plus easily?

If he'd been a nob, but had signed a contract and we ended up getting a good fee for him, would that be worse?

RBL are getting good money for him, they can't moan.
It's what players do now - Keita, Coutinho, VVD, Suarez - they can all cause problems in various ways.

Agree0 Disagree1

13 Jan 2018 11:35:12
Juicer, I was commenting on some fans' perceptions that Keita and Emre are not giving their all to their current teams.

I agree that their situations are not entirely the same.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 11:52:38
Comparing Balotelli and Keita. The only similarity they have is that they're African.

Agree1 Disagree4

{Ed001's Note - Balotelli is Italian....}

13 Jan 2018 12:29:43
I think what ed002 was saying about firmino is that he could have be purchased for less money - not matter how good we think he is now, it was still over the odds!

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 12:17:34
African descent ed001.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed001's Note - you could say that about anyone mate. Bit like there is something like a 99.9% chance that anyone in England could trace their ancestry back and find they are related to Richard III (iirc!). At some point everyone will have an ancestor from Africa just depends how far back you go.}

13 Jan 2018 12:48:15
Have to say big red flag for the future the way he's acting, season or two playing well and he will pull the same stuff on us when Barcelona or real come calling.

Agree0 Disagree3

12 Jan 2018 14:38:39
What's happened to the transfer prices for players it is getting out of hand . I blame the Spanish league, they buy a player for let's say £15 million and then put a fee for buy out clause for something stupid like £200 million this has been going on for a long time now inflating transfers UEFA need to step in and put a end to this system it is against all that football stands for and must be addressed now.

I can see in the very near future that professional football will implode in the same way as the banks went and will struggle to survive as the Italy league nearly went a few years ago. How can LFC justify £30 million for Studge he has a very long history of injuries Walcott to Everton is the same. I know we have just pocketed a large sum from Barcelona and though we have the money does not help either us or Barcelona .

To replace Coutinio it will cost most of what we received from and Barcelona will have sell players and merchandise to pay for transfer it is total madness and will ring the death knoll for football for ever if we don't address it soon.

Believable13 Unbelievable25

12 Jan 2018 16:06:11
It’s not getting out of hand it’s already completely out of hand! When Barcelona put a €198 clause on Neymar and PSG called their bluff and matched it, it was only going to go one way.

Agree21 Disagree3

12 Jan 2018 16:07:28
The more TV money the more available cash the higher the price for players. Don't think the Spanish system is specifically to blame particularly but interesting post to avoid the other usual ones asking eds the same names every 5 minutes.

Agree24 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 16:11:04
The Spanish league isn't to blame. To even suggest that is ridiculous.

The reason player prices have gone up is that clubs have more money to spend due to increased revenues from sponsorship, TV money etc.

There might well be clubs that implode because they overspend in the expectation that the revenues keep increasing.

Agree17 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 16:33:56
To be fair to PSG, if he says more then 4/ 5years that was one hell of a bargain, gunna be the worlds best for a long time soon and he’s still young a massive asset with resale value same with what they paid for mbappe. Great Buisness.

Agree9 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 17:28:28
Spending is on the same percentage of clubs revenue that is has always been. I may be corrected here but somewhere around 20% of revenue has been a regular figure to spend on record (or high at the time) transfer fees since football was a business.

I did see an article sometime last year listing all British record fees as a percentage of turnover and they were all pretty consistent but i can't find it now. But as an example,

When we bought Stan Collymore in '95 for 8.5 million, it was deemed a massive fee. Our turnover was somewhere in the region of 50 million.

In March 2017, our turnover was announced as being around 300 million and our record signing that summer was Naby Keita for 55 million.

A huge jump in price but not in comparison to percentage of turnover. Clubs are spending within their means, because there is so much more money in the game now. The fees may be astronomical, but clubs are not spending, in general, what they can't afford.

Agree11 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 18:14:13
In their title winning season Blackburn Rovers spent 73% of their turnover on transfers, that's the equivalent of United spending £970 million last summer.

Agree9 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 18:18:53
In my opinion there are three teams to blame for the inflated prices and that PSG and the two Manchester clubs. Even Chelsea with the Russians wads of cash didn't go this stupid.

Agree7 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 18:42:16
The only issue i have with all this is why do we the fans have to pay upwards of £50 a ticket.

Agree5 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 18:57:27
Its quite clearly because of the rising revenues from TV and sponsorship. It needs some kind of regulation. Giving teams more money does NOT improve the game in any way. It just means the transfer market levels out after its been inflated. £80 million player today is £200 million tomorrow, but the spending power of teams does not change, only the prices. If the increased revenues was being used to reduce ticket prices id be all for that, but it isnt.

Agree3 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 18:58:40
Not us paying £75 mil on a centre back then?! I agree we’re perhaps late to the party, but we’re involved now!

Agree7 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 19:02:47
I seem to recall a few clubs sniffing around Wright philips and offering 11 million. Chelsea went in and bought him for 22. So I don't agree with that part of your statement.

Agree1 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 19:12:36
Decimus-Because that’s the going rate, FSG could chuck £20/ 30 on top of the prices and I think Anfield would still be a sell out, so you could argue they are under priced.

Agree3 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 19:49:39
I think if you have a market with as few major players as football then suddenly introduce an oil rich country with effectively unlimited money it's always going to send the prices wacky. People have been saying money is ruining the game since Forest dropped £1m on Trevor Francis nearly 40 years ago and still seems pretty good to me!

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 20:10:43
Under priced? Give it a rest.

Agree0 Disagree4

12 Jan 2018 21:05:22
Looking at it from a business sense why would they drop ticket prices when they sell Anfield out for every game? I’d rather pay less for a ticket but I would rather pay less for everything if possible.

Agree3 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 21:27:34
Because it would attract younger fans, families, maybe people who have never been to a game. plus it would draw the attention of sponsors if we were one of the first clubs to do it. Get people talking about the club. And the money made on gate reciepts doesn't mean as much as it used to. The fans are the life of any club.

Agree3 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 21:43:26
We are far from struggling for fans or sponsors. The fact we sell out every home game proves this.

Agree3 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 22:33:26
I used to view it from the perspective of supply and demand, and from that point of view, you are right. We fill out anfield every game. We could charge more and it would still fill out. Football is a business etc.

But football is nothing without fans. Clubs have a level of social responsibility. With the amount of money in the game today, no fan, regardless of age or background, should be alienated from the game on price. The game may be more business orientated but Liverpool Football Club, is first and foremost, a football club. A community built by the fans, for the fans, not an institution to exploit the fans. The demographic of fans who go to the matches should not be narrowed to a slim shred of society by price. Anfield will continue to fill up because there are always richer fans who will come, but it doesn't mean that those who are poorer should not be able to. If it was me id be overhauling everything with loyalty schemes, deals for children and young people, ways to encourage noise at anfield, safe standing areas, the lot.

Agree2 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - i like that AW mate..

12 Jan 2018 23:14:59
Well said woolback.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 00:12:40
I agree with the sentiment 100% AW but, the Premier League clubs and in particular, clubs like ours are internationally renowned sports teams. I live near Oxford (that does not make me rich, far from it) and I feel as connected to the club as a local may do. But because I don't have a season ticket, pretty much passed down through generations, I can barely get to Anfield and I end up having to watch the matches via other means (If you know what I mean, I've not missed a game in the last few seasons) . It's not the fault of local fans, but because of the size of the club, everybody wants tickets and it drives prices up. If I had my way, there would be no season tickets and it would be a lottery style selection process per match. That way, I may get to see the team I spend so much of life devoted to. If Metallica were run like like a football club, I'd never get to see them and in my mind, in the modern game, there's barely any difference.

Basically 50 odd quid to the average fan, of which there are millions compared to the 50 odd thousand in attendance, means nothing.

Agree1 Disagree1

13 Jan 2018 05:50:57
AW-There is loyalty schemes and sales for locals.
WKD- Liverpool have (or at least did have) the lowest percentage of season ticket holders to seats so what your saying is rubbish, I don’t live in Liverpool or have an inherited season ticket but I still manage to get to 10-15 games per season so your obviously not trying hard enough, it can be frustrating at times the ticket process but if you get yourself a membership you will get tickets if you try hard enough.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 06:33:40
Back in the day when football was a contact sport and footballers lived in the real world clubs main income was from attendances. We sold out every week then. Did we over price it so fans couldn’t afford it? No we didn’t.
Then sponsorship came in and at one point came close to matching income from attendances, but before it got there SkyTV changed the game. They threw millions at clubs and now it’s billions.
Premier league clubs don’t really need the revenue from fans anymore, it’s just greed that stops them lowering prices. That and FFP.

Agree1 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that ron..

13 Jan 2018 08:55:49
Best debate I've seen on here for years - thanks.
Like WRKD I have been a massive reds fan since the day the King signed but living in Birmingham am squeezed out.
Conga - the membership scheme might as well be a season ticket. The ticket sale is fixed to who went to lots of games last season. It's chicken and egg - nothing to do with "trying harder". Because you went to 15 games last season you get first dibs on buying another 15 - making it self perpetuating. I enter the sale 3 days later and there are only tickets left for 2 games - which keeps low down the queue for next time. For me it's a vicious circle.
Thanks to the cup scheme, I get to all cup matches - and bring my kids. But that leaves me with almost entirely midweek games - which is not easy from brum - nor cost efficient. So think again about the "try harder" comment.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 09:41:51
Brummie- I don’t have 15 premiership games from last season on my record so the only advantage I have over you is that I’m elegible for the big games (Everton, Utd, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, spurs) I will have exactly the same chance as you in the rest of the games.
Being from Birmingham is irrelevant and other than the newly introduced local sale (heard it’s a fairly low number) ticket sales don’t discriminate against location.
I agree it must be a nightmare getting back to Birmingham after a midweek game but you’ve made a rod for your own back by not supporting a team local to yourself, there is nothing the club can do about that.
I have supported the club all my life and have been fairly regular at Anfield for most of it, however it’s only been 3 years since I moved back to the north west after being in the army and in that time I have got a membership and managed to get a good amount of tickets and built up some loyalty where I’m guaranteed European and all Cup games and I can get to a upto 10 league games a season so it’s not a closed shop.
With regards to the group members sale, I have had little lucky with that the last few years, I find have much more joy on the individual members resale.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 11:27:00
You're right, I gave up trying hard because I was getting nowhere and so I only get to a game once in a blue moon. It is difficult to get to matches and you saying you only get the big games for loyalty proves it - that's near enough half you're stated attendance. Yes I can get to some cup games, but they aren't exactly high profile ones, and more often than not, the team you're watching doesn't contain half the players you hoped to see. To get in the position where I could see a Merseyside derby, for example, would take several years of preparation and then, if I missed one, through say illness, I would have to go right back down the ladder again. Etc etc. All I'm saying is people that complain about the price they pay to see games forget how fortunate they are to see the games at all. To go any gig of an act just as high profile and you'll pay more. It's an entertainment business, not a social gathering nowadays.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 12:46:01
WRKD- Why would being ill knock you back for future games? its fairly clear you don’t know the process of getting tickets for Liverpool and are one of many fans who blames non attendance on the system saying it’s impossible. That just isn’t true.
If you try hard you will get to 4 league games in a season and therefore be eligible for the big games the following season, so it would take a year not several.

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 12:41:20
Good luck to Ryan Kent who has joined Bristol City on loan.

A good chance for him to make his name in the promotion battle.

Believable49 Unbelievable1

12 Jan 2018 18:17:56
Couldn't have picked a better side for him to join. They are doing very well in the Championship and Lee has his team playing some great attacking football. I'm sure he'll get plenty more game time than he did at Freiburg as well. Lot more games in the championship and they are still in the cups.

Agree4 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 19:07:07
I think this is a good spot for him with playing time and promotion prospects.

Agree2 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 19:46:05
If he can force his way into the side it will be a good move for him.

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 08:55:06
I posted around a week ago that we have made a bid for deli Ali. Only got the info from a friend.
With what has been going on over last 24 hours my friend is insistent that it's Ali but we are quite short on the asking price.

Believable5 Unbelievable37

12 Jan 2018 13:04:01
Alli is over rated and over priced.

Agree19 Disagree9

12 Jan 2018 13:06:00
We should never have let him slip the net. He supports liverpool and if my memory serves me correctly the MK Dons manager at the time all but delivered Alli to Rodgers who declined the offer.

Agree11 Disagree4

12 Jan 2018 13:33:12
Well that's a lie brez

Brendan met with Dele at the Hilton and everything was all but sorted apart from deeming 5 million to much.

Agree12 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 14:10:11
Did we offer the right wages this time.

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 14:32:15
Clearly my memory didn't serve me that correctly.

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 15:22:45
Wasn't Rodgers fault over the money he wanted him to sign it was others at the club wouldn't sanction payin the extra.

Agree5 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 16:23:51
In response to Ali signing for Liverpool, I read that the reason Ali didn’t sign for us was Stevie G was in the hotel where he met Rogers but it was late and he was in bed. Ali took it that he wasn’t valued and signed for Spurs instead.

I await the replies but I am sure that’s what I read.

Agree7 Disagree2

12 Jan 2018 16:55:32
Forget about the Ali to Liverpool saga. I'm sure there are hundreds more examples of clubs including others at Liverpool where a bargain was let slip through the net because of a simple under sight.

It also works the other way. Look at Inter. They sold whatshisname to us for around the £8 million mark.

Agree7 Disagree0

12 Jan 2018 18:00:26
Yeah and man u sold pogba to Juve for peanuts.

Agree3 Disagree2

12 Jan 2018 18:09:20
Interesting reasons. The only one I’ve ever heard or seen is that we thought the wages he wanted were too high otherwise the deal is done. Anyway on the pitch he’s a petulant and dirty player who has been lucky (or protected) to date otherwise he would have 2 or 3 more straight reds to his name by now.

Personally I’d rather see Eriksen as he seems to have been the one really making them tick.

Agree3 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 19:06:54
My understanding of the Alli situation was that Rodgers wanted to buy him and put him in the under 19s or under 23s and Potch wanted him for the 1st team so he chose Spurs.

Agree3 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 19:08:31
Ali does have a bad attitude, and he will get caught out soon, yes he is protected, why, well the powers that be, want the top four teams in every cup semi final, and to stay in the top four, making more TV money, yes, money talks .

Agree1 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 19:10:00
Forget all I it's greizmann.

Agree0 Disagree1

12 Jan 2018 19:15:55
If rodgers had been to one to coach alli, and not pochettino, i doubt he would be the same player he is now. I think he has unfairly come under criticism for no good reason, he has the unwanted burden of being english and being built up for every small good thing he does, and knocked down for every tiny bad thing he does. Gerrard was always getting sent off at his age. He has a lot of talent and by his mid twenties will have developed into a great player imo, so long as he keeps his head down. He is an unfair victim of the culture of two extremes we have here in england.

Agree6 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 00:10:45
Kwhizz I remember reading the same thing about Gerrard being in bed and Ali not feeling important enough because of it 😂 good ol silly journalism lol.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 00:15:56
Apparently you are correct. Mystery Player X is Dele Alli. but Spurs unlikely to sell to us.

Agree0 Disagree0

13 Jan 2018 13:46:51
The story which has been confirmed by Rodgers was that personal terms where agreed with Alli but the club would not match Spurs bid of 5m which seems insignificant now but at the time it seemed a fairly high price for a player in the third tier.

Agree0 Disagree0

 
Change Consent