Liverpool Rumours Archive December 16 2010

 

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16 Dec 2010 23:26:15
Giampaolo Pazzini anyone? ?

26 years old, plays for Sampordia, been a pretty prolific goalscorer for a while now, would cost about 11 million.

opinions?

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16 Dec 2010 23:06:53
Flew home to dublin 2day went to see game last night fc utrect were also there in fact we were bunched in among them in the queue to go through security just about made the flight! there was no big fuss about it but i noticed ricky van wolfswinkel with what appeared to be his parents and another gentleman maybe his agent? i assume a certain two wer his parents as they were particulary close when talking to him he had his arm in a sling under a coat from injury last nite and the woman was 'minding' him if u like. .never know could have had talks over a jan move anyway never mind that i also met aldo on way over in dublin airport! a legend in ireland and at liverpool was great with kids asking for photos and autographs top bloke. cheers ed great site keep up good work oh nearly forgot jonjo shelvey had a great game watched him closely and im very impressed on his progress a future captain me thinks! J Red {ed's note - it would be more likely to be a doctor with Rocky and Bullwinkle I would say.}

According to de Telegraaf van Wolfswinkl was able to travel home with the rest of the squad so if you saw him you must have seen the rest of the players!
One thing that I can never understand is all these fans who see players at Airports, walking around Albert Dock and Melwood, etc, but never take any photographs. If you look close there is a section where you can place photographs but although I constantly look I never see any. Come on you fans get the cameras out!
Mal 51

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16 Dec 2010 22:24:30
Furthermore, he extended his contract til 2015 a few months ago, so it would be difficult to get him, even though I am sure that Hyypiä could convince him how great Liverpool is. {ed's note - ah ok, I thought I read that funding had been cut to Bayer, obviously not, or just paper talk. As for Kiessling, I view him as a support for Torres, a creative player similar to Dalglish, rather than the out and out goal scorer.}

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Well, if I have to compare Kießling to one of our strikers, it would certainly be Kuyt. In fact, they belong to the same player type: always hard working, running much, great heading abilites, can score and assist.

Maybe Kießling is a little faster and has better technical abilities , but Kuyt has the better shot. So all in all, we can just keep Kuyt and do not need Kießling.

Creative support strikers are difficult to find in the Bundesliga since most teams only use one striker (4231 formation) and that is the target man (I think that is how you call this player type in Britain). Creative work is done by the attacking midfielders.

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16 Dec 2010 22:20:15
{ed's note - I do think the Honda deal is likely, but other than that I am not convinced we will get anyone in January while Roy is in charge. I think it is more likely Comolli will be picking up a couple of free transfers and laying the groundwork for the summer window. I do think Taiwo and a couple of others will agree pre-contracts, unless the club slumps and a boost is needed. Or we are pushing for the top four and they want to give it a go. So, if the club slumps badly, Roy is removed, I think we will buy Honda, Taiwo and at least one more. If we stay in mid-table I expect only Honda, if we improve and are challenging then I think Honda, Taiwo and another.}
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It is encouraging what you wrote above there mate. I know nothing about what's going on (but not many of us do) but I certainly hope a deal for Honda is likely. Anyhow, where do you think we'd play Honda? Behind Torres? Don't know if he'd be the answer to our left-wing problems, do you think he would?

And do you really think Taiwo will agree to join us? Who are the other couple you think will join on pre-contracts?

(Sorry for the interview bud, this is like BBC Question Time, but I think me and many others would like some encouraging news and obviously you know more about what goes on than us!). {ed's note - this is mostly my conjecture rather than hard evidence, due to the fact there is no hard evidence around. But I think we are looking at Honda to play up front, instead of Ngog, as a partner to Torres. I do think Taiwo would jump at the chance to join us, he was interested in a move during the Rafa era but it never came off. Though that supposes Comolli rates him, he will know the lad far better than I do, but he does seem very much a Comolli-type player. He likes the good, strong, fast and technical players.}

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16 Dec 2010 22:17:29
Ed realistically who wd u like 2 come 2 the club who possibly cd? and what do u think bout this honda deal nearly finalised? and great website! {ed's note - I would like Llorente, Honda and Sanchez, I think they would be a huge boost to the side and a complete change to the side's outlook. As for the Honda deal, I hope it is true, but it is impossible to tell, the only leaks will come from CSKA or Honda or his agent. Liverpool have shut down all the previous leaks and no one is going to be daft enough to talk out of turn any more.}

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16 Dec 2010 22:04:34
16 Dec 2010 21:12:48
Ed wt do u think of simon kjaer ( spellin) and subotic and wud they be good buys for liverpool {ed's note - we should have bought Kjaer when we had the chance, him and Agger are a great combination for Denmark (on those rare occasions Agger is fit), he has looked good every time I have seen him. Not so sure on Subotic because I haven't seen as much of him, but I know Wenger wanted him in the summer, which doesn't bode well with his record of buying defenders!}

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Well, strangely, Kjaer has some problems in the Bundesliga, his performances have not been great so far, but you can say this about the whole Wolfsburg team. The club spent much money last summer buying new players, and the squad is one of the best in the Bundesliga, however, they are struggeling. Steve McLaren has not formed a winning team yet (guess he is not very popular in Britain, is he?).

But what I want to say is that Kjaer does not seem to be ready for a big club yet. He still needs more time.

Subotic is also a big central back talent and has shown good performances in this season (as his central back partner Hummels). But Dortmund are very successful in the liga competition at the moment, so there is no need for them to sell him. Furthermore, he is very happy in Dortmund and does not want to leave. So I do not think that he will transfer in near future.

Liverpool fan from Germany {ed's note - cheers for that input, I have only seen Kjaer play in Italy and for Denmark, not seen him since his move.}

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16 Dec 2010 21:45:22
16 Dec 2010 20:31:38
Stephan Keissling looked very good against athletico in the europa league, tall, strong, quick.

Also Aguero looks really really good would be almost exactly what we need.

ED? chances and thoughts on both? {ed's note - I do like Keissling, excellent player, I am not entirely sure on this but I don't believe Bayer are particularly well off, if so we should be able to tempt them to sell. As for Aguero, his price and wages would be huge, though he does support Liverpool.}

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Well, Leverkusen is one of the richer clubs in Germany, because the huge pharmaceutical company Bayer, which is famous for producing Aspirin, is responsible for this club. So I do not think they will sell players because of financial reasons.

Kießling is a decent striker, but he is more a "worker" than a "killer" (hope that you understand what I mean). His statistic is not very impressive:

games goals
2010/ 2011 4 1
2009/ 2010 33 21
2008/ 2009 34 12
2007/ 2008 31 9
2006/ 2007 32 8

Except last season, which was a good one for Bayer Leverkusen, he never scored more than 12 goals. So if we are looking for a goalgetter, Kießling is the wrong man.

He is coming back from an injury now and it is doubtful whether or not he will get a starting position. My opinion is that he would be a decent backup for Liverpool, but has not enough quality to improve our starting formation.

Furthermore, he extended his contract til 2015 a few months ago, so it would be difficult to get him, even though I am sure that Hyypiä could convince him how great Liverpool is. {ed's note - ah ok, I thought I read that funding had been cut to Bayer, obviously not, or just paper talk. As for Kiessling, I view him as a support for Torres, a creative player similar to Dalglish, rather than the out and out goal scorer.}

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16 Dec 2010 21:44:36
What you think Ed? {ed's note - too many changes can unsettle the team, though the way we are playing I am not sure that matters any more!}if a rebuild did take place in jan, then it doesn't matter if it takes time to settle, we are struggling regardless, and to rebuild now, give the squad games together now till the end of the season, would allow us to hit the ground running nxt season.
maybe just maybe nesv are looking at jan as crucial, new manager, new quality players, 10 to 15 games for new players to settle and new manager to get across his ideas to challenge next year.

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16 Dec 2010 21:44:13
Ed who do you think we will sign in january and im just wondering who YOU think we will? {ed's note - I do think the Honda deal is likely, but other than that I am not convinced we will get anyone in January while Roy is in charge. I think it is more likely Comolli will be picking up a couple of free transfers and laying the groundwork for the summer window. I do think Taiwo and a couple of others will agree pre-contracts, unless the club slumps and a boost is needed. Or we are pushing for the top four and they want to give it a go. So, if the club slumps badly, Roy is removed, I think we will buy Honda, Taiwo and at least one more. If we stay in mid-table I expect only Honda, if we improve and are challenging then I think Honda, Taiwo and another.}

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16 Dec 2010 21:36:16
Ed do you reckon if a decent offer for torres comes in it will be accepted? say a 40mplus adebayor or something along those lines? a half decent replacement and cash to go out a buy another 2 or 3 quality players.
i know adebayor isn't half the player torres was (but at presant for some reason or another he is struggling). i would hate to see him go, but his heart doesn't seem in it, and maybe a shake up is whats needed.
we never thought we would have another rush, then came fowler, then owen etc. always some else who will come and score goals. {ed's note - I don't know, it is hard to say but it would be interesting to find out how NESV deal with that situation. it would give us an idea of how they intend to run the club for the future.}

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16 Dec 2010 21:35:52
Ed do u knw y we dint sign simao when he was at benfica (we were strogly linked) and do u think he cud be a poss target ne time soon {ed's note - wasn't he the one that was yanked off the plane because his club put his price up at the last second? Or am i getting mixed up? I very much doubt he will even be in consideration, he is past his best in my opinion.}

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16 Dec 2010 21:35:39
Benzema Or Aguero

Belivable for Benzema
Unbelivable for Aguero

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16 Dec 2010 21:33:03
Matías Defederico


free? ?looks a great player has he ever been linked? ?

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16 Dec 2010 21:31:21
Highly rated midfielder Urby Emanuelson has made it clear that he is planning to leave Eredivisie giants Ajax on a free transfer in the summer of 2011. Emanuelson has stated that he's far from happy with the way he's been treated.

The left footed midfielder recently expressed his desire to sign a contract extension at Ajax, but negotiations have stalled after Emanuelson refused to accept a pay cut, much to the dismay of the winger.

"I've discussed the situation with my agent and we don't want to talk about a new contract any more. I wanted to stay at Ajax, but not like this, " the player told Voetbal International.

"The way things stand at the moment, I will stay at Ajax until my contract expires and then leave the club on a free transfer. This is not what I had in mind before, but I don't see any other options at the moment."

Emanuelson has been linked with a move to the Primera Division lately, but there haven't been any concrete offers for the midfielder so far.
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Bet we'll make a move for him. (Emmanuelson btw). As a left-back, no because his defending is poor. As a left-winger, I suppose on a free it would be decent business but I think we could do better in the market in terms of signing a left-winger. So I doubt he'd sit on the bench.

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16 Dec 2010 21:27:53
Anyone else think january is the time to invest in the squad not the summer . . .

NESV said the summer is the time to re-develop the squad but if we wait until then Torres will leave the club because of where we will finish in the league this season!

If you agree click believeable if you don't agree click unbelievable.

What you think Ed? {ed's note - too many changes can unsettle the team, though the way we are playing I am not sure that matters any more!}

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16 Dec 2010 21:21:02
16 Dec 2010 20:30:34
We need a new Sami Hyypiä at the back , never really replaced him


could have pick up Christoph Metzelder
for free in the summer

what about Per Mertesacker??

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It's me, the German fan again.

I can assure that Christoph Metzelder is a horrible defender. His performances at the beginning of the season were even so bad, that there was a running gag by Dortmund Fans (Dortmund and Schalke are local rivals and hate each other) about Metzelder being a agent of Dortmund. Even though his form has become a little better, he would not help Liverpool at all.

Mertesacker is not bad, but very over-rated and many German football fans can not understand why he has a starting position in the national team. He is tall and has great heading abilities, however he has a big problem and that is his pace. If he has to play against a fast striker, he has no chance at all. That is one of reasons why Bremen always has so many goals against them. Furthermore, he makes mistakes very often.

If Liverpool wants a new central back, I would not recommend to search in the Bundesliga, because there are hardly any good central backs in Germany (even Bayern Munich has this problem).

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16 Dec 2010 21:14:38
Ed is there any chance that u could get me that list of people that become bosmans in jan? i would really appreciate it. u could even Email me it if u like {ed's note - there are literally thousands of players, it is not that easy, plus the editor with the access to that info is not currently around. In all seriousness your best bet is to look at FM11 and do a player search on players with expiring contracts, it is fairly accurate as I did a quick comparison with a selection of them. It is not perfect, but it is the simplest and most accurate list freely available (well sort of free).}

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16 Dec 2010 21:12:48
Ed wt do u think of simon kjaer ( spellin) and subotic and wud they be good buys for liverpool {ed's note - we should have bought Kjaer when we had the chance, him and Agger are a great combination for Denmark (on those rare occasions Agger is fit), he has looked good every time I have seen him. Not so sure on Subotic because I haven't seen as much of him, but I know Wenger wanted him in the summer, which doesn't bode well with his record of buying defenders!}

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16 Dec 2010 21:12:06
"Copied of RAWK. But many people on there talk rubbish most of the time so at the moment I would give it an unbelievable."

As opposed to some of the fantasy league managers that post on here. Honda is a fairly well established rumour at the moment but I don't think it will happen. We need a striker, a couple of defenders and maybe a wide man. Yes, Honda could play wide but I am sick of managers buying players to play out of position and then the fans slating the player. Please LFC, buy a quality wide man ala A Johnson etc.

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16 Dec 2010 20:59:57
Flew home to dublin 2day went to see game last night fc utrect were also there in fact we were bunched in among them in the queue to go through security just about made the flight! there was no big fuss about it but i noticed ricky van wolfswinkel with what appeared to be his parents and another gentleman maybe his agent? i assume a certain two wer his parents as they were particulary close when talking to him he had his arm in a sling under a coat from injury last nite and the woman was 'minding' him if u like. .never know could have had talks over a jan move anyway never mind that i also met aldo on way over in dublin airport! a legend in ireland and at liverpool was great with kids asking for photos and autographs top bloke. cheers ed great site keep up good work oh nearly forgot jonjo shelvey had a great game watched him closely and im very impressed on his progress a future captain me thinks! J Red {ed's note - it would be more likely to be a doctor with Rocky and Bullwinkle I would say.}

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16 Dec 2010 20:59:38
Right. . There's players available for next to nothing and I will be gutted if we don't try an sign these players.

Matais Defederico - Corinthians - free now due to contract dispute
cassano - Sampdoria - free
Honda - CSKA - 10m
taiwo - marseille - pre contract
gago - real Madrid - 8m
Traore - fc cluj - 4m
mexes - Roma - pre contract


What you think Ed? Is there any others who you think could be good business? {ed's note - I was shown a big list of players in the last year of contracts, there are a lot out there, none really stood out for me other than Mexes and Taiwo though. I wouldn't touch Cassano if he paid the club for the privilege of joining, he doesn't deserve to pull on the red shirt of Liverpool. The rest seem good shouts, though I would want to know the ins and outs of the contract dispute before I would consider a move for him.}

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16 Dec 2010 20:45:04
The Keisuke Honda saga is nearing a conclusion following leaks from the Russian press that Liverpool are close to signing the Japan World Cup superstar.

Liverpool were thought to have opened transfer negotiations with CSKA Moscow in early December but nothing materialised, leading many to believe that a deal could not be reached.

But it is now claimed in Russian newspaper Moskosvki Kosmolets that Liverpool and CSKA Moscow have now agreed a fee, believed to be around €13.5m. Moskosvki Kosmolets also claims that Honda has formally agreed to a salary and all that remains is for pen to be put to paper.
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Copied of RAWK. But many people on there talk rubbish most of the time so at the moment I would give it an unbelievable.

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16 Dec 2010 20:43:49
Ed - I think you should set up a new page for people who ask you who you think we'll sign in jan. It would save you having to answer the same question 20 times a day! HE DOESN'T KNOW! Sorry Ed, but you must be as fed up answering it as I am reading the question. Great site btw {ed's note - I just wish I did know! Drives me mad not knowing anything, must be how journalists feel. . . .You could just make it up like they do!

You {ed's note - I think there are already enough people doing that!}

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16 Dec 2010 20:37:33
Ed - I think you should set up a new page for people who ask you who you think we'll sign in jan. It would save you having to answer the same question 20 times a day! HE DOESN'T KNOW! Sorry Ed, but you must be as fed up answering it as I am reading the question. Great site btw {ed's note - I just wish I did know! Drives me mad not knowing anything, must be how journalists feel.......}

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16 Dec 2010 20:31:38
Stephan Keissling looked very good against athletico in the europa league, tall, strong, quick.

Also Aguero looks really really good would be almost exactly what we need.

ED? chances and thoughts on both? {ed's note - I do like Keissling, excellent player, I am not entirely sure on this but I don't believe Bayer are particularly well off, if so we should be able to tempt them to sell. As for Aguero, his price and wages would be huge, though he does support Liverpool.}

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16 Dec 2010 20:30:34
We need a new Sami Hyypiä at the back , never really replaced him


could have pick up Christoph Metzelder
for free in the summer

what about Per Mertesacker? ??

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16 Dec 2010 20:26:12
Ta for the Kiessling/ Kießling note mate. Ya the other post was early this afternoon. .quite long so forgotten majority of my mental ramblings, but mainly about Roy, the NESV live phone in and the Jan transfer window. If you can find it and post it it'd be appreciated, if not no worries. again, ta lads.

. : LojR: . {ed's note - if I get a chance I will try and find it, but I am snowed under at the moment with work, we are launching a new website, hopefully today and it is keeping me busy as I am doing all the writing for it!}

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16 Dec 2010 20:25:54
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16 Dec 2010 19:19:07
BRING IN FRANK RIJKAARD ASAP
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We have been told on this site that this cannot happen because NESV know of an issue that makes his appoinment impossible. I'd love to know what the problem is. Anybody got a clue ?
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He's probably lined up to take the Man.City job. If and when it becomes available.


The reason that he will never be manager of our club is because of his recreational taking of drugs.

100% true

Macca {ed's note - I have been avoiding this going on the site, I am not sure it is something to get put onto the site to be honest. . }

Rijkaard was well known at Ajax to go to coffee shops with Marco Van Basten when they were teammates. The club couldn't really do much as they were acting within the law in view of what they were consuming! . . notice the careful choice of words, ed? {ed's note - I believe he is a rastafarian anyway, which would make it a component of their religion I believe?}

You know i forgot he was a follower of haile selassie - tho' wasn't he going to coffee shops, ahem. .religiously, ed? {ed's note - I had better not answer that one ;o)}

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16 Dec 2010 20:21:28
Ed, do you think our owners have a manager reserved to takeover? Thanks. {ed's note - no I don't, if they had a new man chosen and in place I think they would bring him in.}

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16 Dec 2010 20:20:13
David bentley for 5m

ok he mite not be the best play in the would but after looking at our squad he would be the best right Midfielder at the club? ?

all depends on how much cash is about in jan mite be good until the summer maybe try and get sanchez and cash in on Dirk Kuyt then and have bentley as cover? ?


any ideas >

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16 Dec 2010 20:09:46
16 Dec 2010 18:22:09
Ed who dya reckon we'll bring in in jan? {ed's note - to be honest I am not expecting much to happen in January, NESV seem to be writing this season off and preparing for a busy summer.}

This makes sense! Why would you allow Roy to buy players if you are not sure he's gonna be the manager next season. I understand Comoli is there now but apparently it is Roy who still has the final say. Better to write the season off than end up buying more rubbish players al la Carlton Cole. We need to be getting rid of the dross, not adding to it!

The Irish Rover

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16 Dec 2010 20:05:29
16 Dec 2010 19:27:38
Macca {ed's note - I have been avoiding this going on the site, I am not sure it is something to get put onto the site to be honest. . }

Sorry mate, wish you had not put it up now.

Macca
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Ed and Macca don't get wound up over this. After all this is a rumour site full of rumours.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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16 Dec 2010 20:01:37
Hi ed i said a few weeks back that we could be interested in stephen ireland. it seems he is surplus to requirments at villa and could be available for next to nothing, and i read in an irish sunday paper, which an irish and liverpool legend writes an article for says he reckons we will make a move in jan. what you think.

irishred {ed's note - I think he is more likely to join United, he is a United fan and Fergie tried to get him from City in the past.}

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16 Dec 2010 19:58:00
Watched the Bayer Leverkusen v Athetlico Madrid game and I think there's a player to be had in Stefan Kießling. He's just come back from injury and you'd never of known. .held the ball, good touch, good feet, turn of pace, great awareness, good work ethic, and good end product. The conditions for the match were terrible (snow covered pitch, icy, and poor visibility) and he still showed all these qualities, and at 6 ft 4.5 and only 26 I think he's worth a punt, or at least a thorough touting. I've not seen much more of him but he's scored 71 goals in 134 app for Leverkusen (the Bundesliga's not a bad league either!) which isn't a bad return at all, he's also German so no issues with work permits, etc. What's you opinion Ed(s)?

. : LojR: . {ed's note - I like him, Kiessling right? I can't do that symbol you used and not sure if that is the right Anglicised spelling! But I rate him highly as a player, he has always been one of those players that looks like he would fit the Premier League.}

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16 Dec 2010 19:56:10
Neymar would be a perfect signing for around £15-20 million I think

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16 Dec 2010 19:52:48
BRING IN FRANK RIJKAARD ASAP
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We have been told on this site that this cannot happen because NESV know of an issue that makes his appoinment impossible. I'd love to know what the problem is. Anybody got a clue ?
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He's probably lined up to take the Man.City job. If and when it becomes available.


The reason that he will never be manager of our club is because of his recreational taking of drugs.

100% true

Macca {ed's note - I have been avoiding this going on the site, I am not sure it is something to get put onto the site to be honest. . }
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Oh right!

Macca is there any sign of NESV getting rid of Roy?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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16 Dec 2010 19:49:27
{ed's note - he is, but the United fans believe he is no longer a target, so fingers crossed!}

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Manure have never filled the massive hole left by that gay diver that went to Real Madrid. As much as I loathe old whiskey nose, he's not daft.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - but he is constrained by the Glazers.}

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16 Dec 2010 19:45:14
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16 Dec 2010 19:19:07
BRING IN FRANK RIJKAARD ASAP
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We have been told on this site that this cannot happen because NESV know of an issue that makes his appoinment impossible. I'd love to know what the problem is. Anybody got a clue ?
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He's probably lined up to take the Man.City job. If and when it becomes available.


The reason that he will never be manager of our club is because of his recreational taking of drugs.

100% true

Macca {ed's note - I have been avoiding this going on the site, I am not sure it is something to get put onto the site to be honest. . }

Rijkaard was well known at Ajax to go to coffee shops with Marco Van Basten when they were teammates. The club couldn't really do much as they were acting within the law in view of what they were consuming! . . notice the careful choice of words, ed? {ed's note - I believe he is a rastafarian anyway, which would make it a component of their religion I believe?}

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16 Dec 2010 19:39:36
Ed what do you think of eden hazard {ed's note - I think he is a good player, I don't believe he would move anywhere in January though.}

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16 Dec 2010 19:36:17
Submitted a post before under ". : LojR: . " about NESV and Jan trans window. It didn't get posted, but non-the-bother, but was wondering if you'd be able to apply to question for Ed. .ta lads. {ed's note - sorry mate I didn't see it, could you post it again for me?}

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16 Dec 2010 19:27:38
Macca {ed's note - I have been avoiding this going on the site, I am not sure it is something to get put onto the site to be honest. . }

Sorry mate, wish you had not put it up now.

Macca

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16 Dec 2010 19:25:50
RE-We need to be more cute in the transfer market. Look at Redknapp with Van der Vaart - £8m for a player valued at £20m only weeks before. So lets be like Harry, but without the large A4 envelopes.

he was offered to us and hodgson didn't want to. .ive heard madrid offered him to us for much less than 20 million, it wasnt redknapp being cute. .it was because nobody else wanted him,

db9

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16 Dec 2010 19:19:07
BRING IN FRANK RIJKAARD ASAP
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We have been told on this site that this cannot happen because NESV know of an issue that makes his appoinment impossible. I'd love to know what the problem is. Anybody got a clue ?
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He's probably lined up to take the Man.City job. If and when it becomes available.


The reason that he will never be manager of our club is because of his recreational taking of drugs.

100% true

Macca {ed's note - I have been avoiding this going on the site, I am not sure it is something to get put onto the site to be honest....}

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16 Dec 2010 19:09:29
Ed am i jus dreamin at the possibility or is there a chance? {ed's note - there is a definite chance, he is unhappy at Udinese.}

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I would love Sanchez but expect him to sign for Manure. Unfortunately they are a far bigger draw than we are at the moment. I think Sanchez is a Manure fan or has expressed an interest to go there.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - he is, but the United fans believe he is no longer a target, so fingers crossed!}

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16 Dec 2010 19:06:08
Ed: Heard whisper regarding Joachim Loew as possible next Boss have ypu heard anything? {ed's note - only talk from people suggesting he would be good, nothing actually concrete.}

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16 Dec 2010 19:02:15
Was told today Ashley young going to liverpool.

A GOONER

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16 Dec 2010 18:57:37
Ed what are the chances of us getting davide santon i hear he wants to leave inter {ed's note - I don't see why we couldn't get him, he would be sure to get first team football with us.}

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16 Dec 2010 18:54:02
Ed which winger and striker do you think well sign in jan {ed's note - I don't know mate, I have yet to see a single player we are linked to that makes any real sense to me. I think it is going to be a surprise to us.}

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16 Dec 2010 18:52:17
Ed, why do you think NESV will "write this season off" and not spend in Jan? Surely they can see by getting into Europe again next season and finishing higher up the league will attract good players, plus help keep our best players? They need to sack Woy, give Kenny the job ( and money to spend in Jan) til the end of the season and show us fans a statement of intent. Sitting back and doing nothing til next season might be too late. The way things are going we could be mid-table, not in Europe and unable to attract the players we want. This would not be an acceptable situation for LFC and the owners, if not aware, should be made aware in the strongest possible ways. I've lived near Manchester for 20 years and have had to endure years of s* t from you know who. If things don't change I can seriously forsee another 20 years. NESV - statement of intent please! {ed's note - the fact that they have not acted and removed Hodgson tells me that they are looking longer term. We just have to give them a bit of time to find out their intentions and see, maybe it will be better to not buy and save the money towards the long term future of the club ie to do the stadium.}

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16 Dec 2010 18:35:04
Adebayor is linked with us .

Would we be able to say no to the possibilty of signing him if it was possible ?

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16 Dec 2010 18:28:36
Nedem Onuaha (sp) has been fantastic for Sunderland this season, and apparantly Sunderland have the option to buy him for £6m. Bargain if you ask me. Should be getting into the England squad with his form, he's a far better defender than Johnson. I wish we signed him.

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16 Dec 2010 18:22:09
Ed who dya reckon we'll bring in in jan ? {ed's note - to be honest I am not expecting much to happen in January, NESV seem to be writing this season off and preparing for a busy summer.}

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16 Dec 2010 18:21:44
Jus havin a look again on youtube at sanchez, jesus hes good
we shud pay thru the nose for him, break the bank, hes class and fits into the NESV mould ov player they want
young
brilliant
could sell shirts

ed am i jus dreamin at the possibility or is there a chance? {ed's note - there is a definite chance, he is unhappy at Udinese.}

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16 Dec 2010 18:17:32
What about young kieran gibbs Ed, he rarely starts because of clichy? he is only young, AND hes better than that flop Konchesky!
Also heard rumours glen johnston wants out and that inter and real Madrid are going for him? surley we can get something/ someone good out of that instead of being bullied out of it again?
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I have heard that jose wants clichy at madrid and would do a swap deal with benzema for his services.Therefore i can't see wenger selling gibbs as he would be ready made replacement for cliichy. I can see this deal happening.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa {ed's note - Gibbs doesn't play because he is injured so much, he is very injury prone or he would be first choice by now.}

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16 Dec 2010 17:48:40
I have been told that Liverpool are interested in signing 18 year old Sime Vrsaljko of Dinamo Zagreb

{Editor's Note: Arsenal are certainly keen.}

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Do you think we could get him first?

{Editor's Note: I don't know of any interest from Liverpool - but it is of course possible.}

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16 Dec 2010 17:46:14
The rumours that we're in for Palermo midfielder Josip Ilicic have come around again. Apparantly another English team have joined us in the race to sign him. (Said to be Chelsea). His asking price is said to be around £7m. It's worth a punt.

He's been scoring goals this season and is meant to have had a great season thus far, for both club and country. Although width is what we need, a goalscoring midfielder would be handy.

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To be honest that is a rumour that interests me , he appears to be a real talent and our squad should benefit from such ability .

Your priorities are correct , but of course the whole first team and squad can be improved .

1977

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16 Dec 2010 17:44:14
I have been told that Liverpool are interested in signing 18 year old Sime Vrsaljko of Dinamo Zagreb

{Editor's Note: Arsenal are certainly keen.}

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16 Dec 2010 17:40:01
He turned 26 3 days ago , that's not really old if you ask me

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I think it's very young although if I were 26 now I would not have witnessed/ remember some of the glory days. . . . .aaaah memories.

MUSHROOM

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16 Dec 2010 17:33:43
I beileve Eden Hazard would be a perfect edition to the squad allowing Dirk Kuyt to maybe play in a more central role as he is NOT a winger, Eden (Hazard) is youthful, pacey and has the burning desire to win besides having the skill to match these assets

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16 Dec 2010 17:31:33
16 Dec 2010 17:25:35
Apparently we our big target is Santi Carzola who i think is just as good as Pablo and maybe even Mata, and has been in brilliant form this season and could be and excellent person to feed torresis he the guy who plays for villareal? isn't he bout 28? {ed's note - I was just thinking he isn't young, so he will be at his peak now, seems the wrong move for me.}


He turned 26 3 days ago , that's not really old if you ask me

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16 Dec 2010 17:30:41
Juan Mata will have one year left in his contract in the Summer of 2011. What a chance to get him for a good price! We'll never get the chance to get him again after this Summer because he'll either stay at Valencia long-term or the two big guns (Madrid and Barcelona) will move for him.

Really got my fingers crossed that he's on the radar of Camolli and that he's aware of his contract situation.

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16 Dec 2010 17:25:40
"Our next manager will be somebody young who has done well so far and is ready to take the next step, not an older manager with nothing to prove."

Well Michael . .
Older?
Younger?
These are arbitrary terms we all use without much thought.
The game is infested with commentators who talk about "young managers" who are in their 40s and Mourinho is I think, 48?
I for one do NOT want a younger manager without experience.
This is not the way we will progress.
We need to go back a step rather than take one forward!
Mourinho has much to prove (as we all have in life) and I don't think he took the Real madrid job just for money. He took that because he DOES have something to prove.
I have no problem with people objecting to, or commenting on my posts. What I do dislike are people who talk in cliches and write tosh about 'younger managers' and 'older managers' as though that was the only issue here.

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And that is fine but you haven't referred back to my original point about your post (considering you are an author) being well researched because Jose himself has said he will NEVER MANAGE LIVERPOOL. End of.

And I am glad you don't mind people objecting to your posts because if they are as stupid and poorly researched/ thought out as the one I commented on you will get plenty of objections.

Michael Duvall

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16 Dec 2010 17:25:35
Apparently we our big target is Santi Carzola who i think is just as good as Pablo and maybe even Mata, and has been in brilliant form this season and could be and excellent person to feed torresis he the guy who plays for villareal? isn't he bout 28? {ed's note - I was just thinking he isn't young, so he will be at his peak now, seems the wrong move for me.}


hes 26

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16 Dec 2010 17:23:57
{ed's note - I was just thinking he isn't young, so he will be at his peak now, seems the wrong move for me.}

well i suppose pablo and mata are young, but santi's only 26 and he is seeming 2 get better every game. i still think it wd be a great move considering his current form, and he has said a move 2 a bigger club wd be great. also what do u think on aguero ed? he has said numerous times how he loves pool and atletico madrid do sell big players 2 bigger clubs. {ed's note - I thought he was older than that, he seems to have been around for so long I thought he was 28/9. Aguero would be too expensive and command too high a wage for me to think it would be a good move.}

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16 Dec 2010 17:13:30
I think we can take it as party line now that Roy is here until the end of this season. I would suggest that NESV do not have high hopes for this season other than we don't get relegated. Almost certainly behind the scenes they are putting out the 'feelers' for the right man to become manager and will not move until they are certain of their man. Wit5h that in mind I do not expect any big signings during the January window - they will not be spending money on star players that an incoming manager might not want. Quite the opposite in fact - I expect players to be leaving to raise money via their transfer fees and no longer paying their wages and that money to be set aside for the incoming manager to spend in the summer.

Not nice, but you have to accept reality and look at it from NESV's position. They are in for the long haul and sacrificing a season under Roy in order to put a better foundation in place for after him is merely normal business strategy. Yes it will be frustrating for us fans but we're just going to have to take it on the chin.

RED LENIN

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16 Dec 2010 16:35:51
{ed's note - there are loads out there that are available and that we could get, the problem is getting the right ones for the right money. If it was me, I would look at Sanchez, Hazard, Pablo Hernandez, Mata and a few others, but I would want the scouts to find out their whole background, what kind of personality they have, everything, before I would splash out the cash for one. I just hope that is what we are doing this time.}

Apparently we our big target is Santi Carzola who i think is just as good as Pablo and maybe even Mata, and has been in brilliant form this season and could be and excellent person to feed torresis he the guy who plays for villareal? isn't he bout 28? {ed's note - I was just thinking he isn't young, so he will be at his peak now, seems the wrong move for me.}

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16 Dec 2010 16:35:26
The rumours that we're in for Palermo midfielder Josip Ilicic have come around again. Apparantly another English team have joined us in the race to sign him. (Said to be Chelsea). His asking price is said to be around £7m. It's worth a punt.

He's been scoring goals this season and is meant to have had a great season thus far, for both club and country. Although width is what we need, a goalscoring midfielder would be handy.

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16 Dec 2010 16:18:21
{ed's note - there are loads out there that are available and that we could get, the problem is getting the right ones for the right money. If it was me, I would look at Sanchez, Hazard, Pablo Hernandez, Mata and a few others, but I would want the scouts to find out their whole background, what kind of personality they have, everything, before I would splash out the cash for one. I just hope that is what we are doing this time.}

Apparently we our big target is Santi Carzola who i think is just as good as Pablo and maybe even Mata, and has been in brilliant form this season and could be and excellent person to feed torres

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16 Dec 2010 16:08:42
BRING IN FRANK RIJKAARD ASAP

BEL - YES
UNBEL - NO

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16 Dec 2010 16:00:58
Who will be in for roy ?

ed? {ed's note - I don't know, I doubt anyone will know until the end of the season, unless results get even worse and NESV have to make up their mind and move for someone quickly.}

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16 Dec 2010 16:00:05
Creative wide players is the key to more goals an better football in my opinion, fast, creative, young an hungry wingers is what we need

ed what players do you think fit that bill? an do you think we will get them? {ed's note - there are loads out there that are available and that we could get, the problem is getting the right ones for the right money. If it was me, I would look at Sanchez, Hazard, Pablo Hernandez, Mata and a few others, but I would want the scouts to find out their whole background, what kind of personality they have, everything, before I would splash out the cash for one. I just hope that is what we are doing this time.}

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16 Dec 2010 15:46:33
I live in Serbia and watch Partizan every week, Jovanovic is twice player then Cleo.No way he is near good enough for Liverpool, but I think we should pay attention on Partizan youth sistem .Jovetic, Ljajic and Gulan play for Fiorentina, sulejmani for Ajax.All of them was very cheap.

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16 Dec 2010 15:43:07
Just reading that Glen Johnson is supposedly interested in a move abroad and wants to leave. Well fair enough Johnson, you're possibly the worst right-back (in terms of defensive ability) that we've had for about 10 years.

Is a pity that Hodgson never put him on the right wing and let Kelly have a run at right-back instead of having a RB who can't defend (Johnson) and a right winger who can't do what a right winger really should (Kuyt).

Anyhow, I'm hoping Rafa Benitez goes for him. I'd love for us to get Santon in a swap deal I think Santon is a top young player and Santon has the defensivly ability to go with the great attacking ability. But it probably won't happen although he'd fit into NESVs policy.

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16 Dec 2010 15:37:46
Will everyone please stop saying pacheco is leaving liverpool to go back to spain, its rubbish. he signed a contract until 2014 earlier this month

MansfieldRED

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16 Dec 2010 15:17:35
{ed's note - partly, he appointed the men to bring it back, so yes I was over-egging Rijkaard's part in it, but he still had to coach and play those tactics.}
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Appology accepted ;o)

MUSHROOM {ed's note - git! lol}

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16 Dec 2010 15:15:01
{ed's note - difference is that nobody wanted to work with H&G or follow Rafa. Plus there was the ongoing takeover that was clearly going to leave the man who took the job expendable. That is why there were so few people applying then, it would be different now, both Rijkaard and Pellegrini would have jumped at the chance to take the job. I am quite sure they are not the only ones.}
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I hope your right Ed. It is a different prospect with new owners I just hope the fans hate campaign aginst the manager doesn't put off any new managers. Let's face some have been extremely brutal towards him. No I am not a fan of Hodgson but I support the club.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - I think a lot of that is to do with my point about following Rafa, most of the 'brutality' has been from those who just didn't want Rafa to go. I think the next guy will be a relief from Roy and get a much better reception, unless it is someone like Fat Sam of course.}

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16 Dec 2010 15:01:58
{ed's note - well Rijkaard brought back the style Barca are playing now, so I think that answers the question. Just so long as the Transformers are the original cartoons and not the new ones, they are just not the same!}
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Watching Barca is like watching football porn. We had the transformers debate the other day so I won't go there again for fear of repeats.
Did Cruyff not start the Barca passing revolution?

MUSHROOM {ed's note - partly, he appointed the men to bring it back, so yes I was over-egging Rijkaard's part in it, but he still had to coach and play those tactics.}

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16 Dec 2010 15:01:54
Taking Rafa back sounds like taking my ex-wife back. The idea of recreating the good times is appealing, but the issues that led to the split will always surface. No matter how she spins it, the b* ch is still crazy. Take this advice from a man who lived a little.

Take it from a man who has also lived a little (probably a little longer than you) I took my ex-wife back and it's the best thing I ever did. Sure the issues come up now and then but we get them sorted out in-house ans we are now at the top of our league. Bring back Rafa by all means - he did at least have feelings for the club, the fans, and the area and most of all he's the only man who ever had the guts to speak the truth about that character at the lesser en of the M62.
Mal 50

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16 Dec 2010 14:57:21
There is a rumour that Christian Poulsen could re-sign for Schalke , Roy Hodgsonwould find a little favour with the fans if he transfered his own poor signings out of the club .

1977

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16 Dec 2010 14:54:26
Pacheco, Babel and Poulsen to leave in January. Pacheco and babel will be sent out on loan to help gain first-team experience. Pacheco most likely to go to a Wigan or Wolves, etc with Babel possibly going to west Ham or even Birmingham on loan.

A striker, winger and centre-back are being looked at in January. (Sorry don't know any names yet)Inusa will return form his loan spell to help us at LB.
Should Avram Grant get the chop (which is likely) form West Ham expect a cheeky late bid for Victor Obinna too. A few pre-contracts will also be agreed including Sylvain Marveaux.

"Hope That's Cleared Something Up For You"
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Thats certainly cleared a lot up for me thanks. so you don't know whats going on either!

chris 1

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16 Dec 2010 14:48:28
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16 Dec 2010 13:18:18
Just a quetion to ed I read somewhere that mario gomez will be on sale in January and bayern will look for the offers do u reckon that Liverpool still intrrested in him {ed's note - I don't think he will be going anywhere now, he hit form and started scoring goals.}

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I am from Germany and a fan of Bayern Munich (Liverpool is my second favourite club) and agree with Ed that Bayern will not sell him. Firstly, he has scored very often recently, secondly, at the moment Bayern does not have many alternatives for the position of the striker. Olic has a severe injury and will not play in ths season anymore and Klose is horrible and never scores (don't be tricked by his world cup perfomances). Müller is not a striker, he is an attacking midfielder. So there is only Gomez remaining.
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Can you suggest a top class German Coach who would be interested in the managers job at Liverpool ?
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Jürgen Klopp (Dortmund) is a young and great coach, who would fit Liverpool well. He is very passionate and great concerning working with young players (in contrast to Benitez and Hodgson). However, he has extended his contract recently and loves his job as Dortmund coach, so I do not think he will be available in the next years.

Louis van Gaal is (Bayern) not a German, but a great Bundesliga coach, even though Bayern's season has not been great so far. But he will not be available either, because he wants to coach a national team after Bayern.

The most successful German coach in the last few years is Ottmar Hitzfeld (won the CL with Bayern and Dortmund), who is coaching Suisse at the moment. But I do not think that he is interested in coaching a club anymore after all these years.

Thomas Schaaf has also done a pretty good job as Bremen coach, but I do not think he will leave Bremen since he has worked for Bremen all his life.

In my opinion these are the only German or Bundesliga coaches who would be good enough to be a Liverpool coach, but I don't think any of them is likely.

And don't believe anyone who tells you that Magath or Klinsmann are good coaches. Both of them are pretty mad and Magath loves to waste money.

By the way, Steve McClaren (Wolfsburg) is in the Bundesliga aswell. . but it seems that he needs more time (probably has a bad reputation in England anyway, hasn't he?)

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16 Dec 2010 14:42:04
Pacheco, Babel and Poulsen to leave in January. Pacheco and babel will be sent out on loan to help gain first-team experience. Pacheco most likely to go to a Wigan or Wolves, etc with Babel possibly going to west Ham or even Birmingham on loan.

A striker, winger and centre-back are being looked at in January. (Sorry don't know any names yet)Inusa will return form his loan spell to help us at LB.
Should Avram Grant get the chop (which is likely) form West Ham expect a cheeky late bid for Victor Obinna too. A few pre-contracts will also be agreed including Sylvain Marveaux.

"Hope That's Cleared Something Up For You"

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obinnas on loan from inter so doubt it mate

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16 Dec 2010 14:35:41
Ive herd it all now. Nando has held out on moving because he wants to sponge off the benefit system and use NHS to get free health care. I hope he has enough money to keep the heating on in the house, theres a cold snapp coming. I might start a kitty if anyone is interested in chipping in. We can't let are striker strugle through the winter.

Bob Loblaw
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sorry bob. best i can stretch to is about 50p a week mate
Now if your kitty was for a get rid of roy fund i might even sell my car and give you/ him the money lol

chris 1

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16 Dec 2010 14:31:56
Pacheco, Babel and Poulsen to leave in January. Pacheco and babel will be sent out on loan to help gain first-team experience. Pacheco most likely to go to a Wigan or Wolves, etc with Babel possibly going to west Ham or even Birmingham on loan.

A striker, winger and centre-back are being looked at in January. (Sorry don't know any names yet)Inusa will return form his loan spell to help us at LB.
Should Avram Grant get the chop (which is likely) form West Ham expect a cheeky late bid for Victor Obinna too. A few pre-contracts will also be agreed including Sylvain Marveaux.

"Hope That's Cleared Something Up For You"

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16 Dec 2010 14:25:18
Ed quick question if we sold 4 or 5 players at xmas and recieved 30 million would we have access to that money straight away which is bein suggested by people on this site i thought these fees were paid in stages over a couple of years? is there any of the masch transfer money left? would love 2 c us try sign hazzard everything fits the bill with this guy but as always these type of players end up at manure and we'll end up with carlton cole {ed's note - the Premier League have changed the transfer rules now, due to clubs like Pompey spreading payments over a number of years and then getting into trouble and not making payments. There is now a limit to the number of years payments can be spread over, I can't find the exact part of the rules (so maybe it was UEFA rather than the Prem itself?) but I believe it was within 2 seasons. So it could still be that the money won't be immediate, but I would expect any buys in January to be paid for immediately purely to keep it from affecting club's finances when the UEFA financial fair play regs take effect in the summer.}

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16 Dec 2010 14:19:41
It seems to me that anyone wishing to leave Liverpool in January would have packed his wife back of to Spain so that she could have their baby there.

To the above. . one simply reason. . no NHS in Spain :-) {ed's note - but the private health care is excellent and I doubt Nando would have any problems affording to pay. . .}


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Ive herd it all now. Nando has held out on moving because he wants to sponge off the benefit system and use NHS to get free health care. I hope he has enough money to keep the heating on in the house, theres a cold snapp coming. I might start a kitty if anyone is interested in chipping in. We can't let are striker strugle through the winter.

Bob Loblaw

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16 Dec 2010 14:15:47
Ah the old Allardyce theory

16 Dec 2010 11:41:21
If Liverpool lose against Fulham then Hodgson to be sacked?

believable

Unbelievable

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16 Dec 2010 14:14:32
People saying that Torres wants to leave because of a picture in an old rag are deluded. They waited amd waited until he didn't have a smile on his face, took a snap and the rest is history. Why didn't they take a picture of him and Meireles sharing sweets, laughing and say "Happy Days at Anfield"? Ill tell you why, because we are Liverpool and the media hates us.
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i agree mate the media are at fault for this crap, and you don't hear the same about roy because maybe the want roy at liverpool then were not a threat to anyone every year you hear that gerrard is leaving and hes still with us so people lay off torres and be careful what you wish for, if torres did leave reina could be next and how will we attract top class players if our players want to leave.
im sick of roy saying he didn't build this squad and a new manger would have the same problems that's a great way to build team confidence.
king henry

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16 Dec 2010 14:13:13
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16 Dec 2010 10:10:39
If Real Madrid want Glen Johnson we should say only if you give us Sergio Ramos or Xabi Alonso in a straight swap!

Lets not get bullied in the market yet again !
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We need to be more cute in the transfer market. Look at Redknapp with Van der Vaart - £8m for a player valued at £20m only weeks before. So lets be like Harry, but without the large A4 envelopes.

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16 Dec 2010 14:10:36
16 Dec 2010 13:52:03
16 Dec 2010 13:18:18
Just a quetion to ed I read somewhere that mario gomez will be on sale in January and bayern will look for the offers do u reckon that Liverpool still intrrested in him {ed's note - I don't think he will be going anywhere now, he hit form and started scoring goals.}

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I am from Germany and a fan of Bayern Munich (Liverpool is my second favourite club) and agree with Ed that Bayern will not sell him. Firstly, he has scored very often recently, secondly, at the moment Bayern does not have many alternatives for the position of the striker. Olic has a severe injury and will not play in ths season anymore and Klose is horrible and never scores (don't be tricked by his world cup perfomances). Müller is not a striker, he is an attacking midfielder. So there is only Gomez remaining.
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16 Dec 2010 14:08:06
16 Dec 2010 09:28:01
People saying that Torres wants to leave because of a picture in an old rag are deluded. They waited amd waited until he didn't have a smile on his face, took a snap and the rest is history. Why didn't they take a picture of him and Meireles sharing sweets, laughing and say "Happy Days at Anfield"? Ill tell you why, because we are Liverpool and the media hates us.
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ABSOLUTELY TRUE. EVEN DURING THE 1970s AND 1980s WE NEVER GOT THE RESPECT WE DESERVED. IT WAS UNITED THIS, SPURS THAT, ARSENAL THIS, WEST HAM THAT.

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16 Dec 2010 14:05:29
Anyone for Holloway as new manager, at least his press conferences would be top entertainment!

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16 Dec 2010 14:00:52
Rafa to payback his payout to come back to LFC.
Rafa has NOT sold his house ad want to come back he loves the club
King


Taking Rafa back sounds like taking my ex-wife back. The idea of recreating the good times is appealing, but the issues that led to the split will always surface. No matter how she spins it, the b**ch is still crazy. Take this advice from a man who lived a little.

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16 Dec 2010 13:52:03
16 Dec 2010 13:18:18
Just a quetion to ed I read somewhere that mario gomez will be on sale in January and bayern will look for the offers do u reckon that Liverpool still intrrested in him {ed's note - I don't think he will be going anywhere now, he hit form and started scoring goals.}

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I am from Germany and a fan of Bayern Munich (Liverpool is my second favourite club) and agree with Ed that Bayern will not sell him. Firstly, he has scored very often recently, secondly, at the moment Bayern does not have many alternatives for the position of the striker. Olic has a severe injury and will not play in ths season anymore and Klose is horrible and never scores (don't be tricked by his world cup perfomances). Müller is not a striker, he is an attacking midfielder. So there is only Gomez remaining.

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16 Dec 2010 13:50:27
16 Dec 2010 08:29:53
Rafa to payback his payout to come back to LFC.
Rafa has NOT sold his house ad want to come back he loves the club
King
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A GREAT COACH. BUT JUST KEEP HIM AWAY FROM THE RUNNING AND POLITICS OF THE CLUB.

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16 Dec 2010 13:48:05
16 Dec 2010 10:10:39
If Real Madrid want Glen Johnson we should say only if you give us Sergio Ramos or Xabi Alonso in a straight swap!

Lets not get bullied in the market yet again !
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16 Dec 2010 13:44:16
16 Dec 2010 11:41:21
If Liverpool lose against Fulham then Hodgson to be sacked?
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Fine. But we need someone available to take over. No good removing Hodgson, only to not have a top class replacement.

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16 Dec 2010 13:42:29
"Our next manager will be somebody young who has done well so far and is ready to take the next step, not an older manager with nothing to prove."

Well Michael . .
Older?
Younger?
These are arbitrary terms we all use without much thought.
The game is infested with commentators who talk about "young managers" who are in their 40s and Mourinho is I think, 48?
I for one do NOT want a younger manager without experience.
This is not the way we will progress.
We need to go back a step rather than take one forward!
Mourinho has much to prove (as we all have in life) and I don't think he took the Real madrid job just for money. He took that because he DOES have something to prove.
I have no problem with people objecting to, or commenting on my posts. What I do dislike are people who talk in cliches and write tosh about 'younger managers' and 'older managers' as though that was the only issue here.

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16 Dec 2010 13:41:58
It seems to me that anyone wishing to leave Liverpool in January would have packed his wife back of to Spain so that she could have their baby there.

To the above. . one simply reason. . no NHS in Spain :-) {ed's note - but the private health care is excellent and I doubt Nando would have any problems affording to pay. . .}

I live in Spain and I can tell you categorically that Spain has a a very good free health system that is the equivalent of the NHS and is rated by EU at the same level as NHS. There is also first class private medical facilities as well

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16 Dec 2010 13:40:18
Do you still think Kenny Aguero will still sing for us at Christmas after watching that last night ?

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16 Dec 2010 13:38:48
Steve Parker, for an author you haven't done much research when mentioning Jose as a potential manager for us. Jose himself (I am paraphrasing) said that he would never manage Liverpool for reasons that he could not let the asking media know about, this was something he said in a televised video, not media mischief. And good; the man has no class. This is a man who ended the career of a referee with his lies about him going into the Barcelona dressing room at half time which led to death threats. He totally disregarded a player's requirement for a break due to religious reasons and furthermore he gets his players to cheat. Jose to Liverpool? Shankly would turn in his grave.

Our next manager will be somebody young who has done well so far and is ready to take the next step, not an older manager with nothing to prove.

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16 Dec 2010 13:35:18
16 Dec 2010 11:44:42
Apperntly liverpool are going for Mike Frantz of fc nurenburg who is he? any good? what do you think ed? {ed's note - I haven't seen him play, sorry, just know he is a young forward that has been getting a bit of hype recently.}

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I am from Germany and know this player. Therefore I can assure that this rumour is absolutely ridiculous (the Nürnberg fans on German websites also think so). Frantz is an average player of a club which struggles against relegation every year. He would not help Liverpool at all.

And which hype do you mean? There is not even another Bundesliga club which is interested in Frantz. {ed's note - maybe the hype was all someone having a joke then? It is easy to start a rumour and get it carried away on the net, only I have had a few people mention him to me the last few days. You only have to mention someone on Twitter or in a Facebook status these days.}

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16 Dec 2010 13:27:39
Steve Parker, for an author you haven't done much research when mentioning Jose as a potential manager for us. Jose himself (I am paraphrasing) said that he would never manage Liverpool for reasons that he could not let the asking media know about, this was something he said in a televised video, not media mischief. And good; the man has no class. This is a man who ended the career of a referee with his lies about him going into the Barcelona dressing room at half time which led to death threats. He totally disregarded a player's requirement for a break due to religious reasons and furthermore he gets his players to cheat. Jose to Liverpool? Shankly would turn in his grave.

Our next manager will be somebody young who has done well so far and is ready to take the next step, not an older manager with nothing to prove.

Michael Duvall

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16 Dec 2010 13:26:28
I have a couple of points to make on LFC that have probably been made already but here they are in one:

Hodgson - unless we go from bad to worse expect this guy in charge until the summer.
Dalglish - I know his son and he quite obviously wants the job - but ask yourself - why did the board turn him down in the summer - I'll tell you why - coz if it goes belly up they'd struggle to get rid of him - Hodgson is different - no love lost.
I'd therefroe expect and hope for us to go for Deschamps in the summer (Again) and this time he'd accept as we will have the structure and stability in place for a great manager to make us a great club - Deschamps - only 44 I think, won things as player and manager - enough said!

And finally - players - one glaringly obvious requirement to me is a playmaker a la Modric or Alonso - I'd expect us to go for this German guy (Frantz) if he is that good - I agree on winger and striker, but how much have we missed Alonso on good form - you don't just need creativity on the wings hey? No-one is there that makes us 'tick'! How about a certain Aquilani to come back (may have to be next season)?

Aquilani/ Frantz
Gomez/ Aquero (I can dream)
Ashley Young

PauloH

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16 Dec 2010 13:18:18
Just a quetion to ed I read somewhere that mario gomez will be on sale in January and bayern will look for the offers do u reckon that Liverpool still intrrested in him {ed's note - I don't think he will be going anywhere now, he hit form and started scoring goals.}

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16 Dec 2010 12:59:36
To Steve Parker:

I thought Mourinho threw money at Chelsea when he was there and ground out a lot of 1 - 0 wins when he was in charge. He is constantly in the media spotlight for one reason or another and has an arrogance that LFC is not associated with.

Do you really want this man to represent our people?

The long term under Mourinho? He doesn't seem to stay long term at a club either does he?

Just a few of my concerns if he came anyway.

Spriggos mate of a mate of a mate

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16 Dec 2010 12:48:06
It seems to me that anyone wishing to leave Liverpool in January would have packed his wife back of to Spain so that she could have their baby there.

To the above. . one simply reason. . no NHS in Spain :-) {ed's note - but the private health care is excellent and I doubt Nando would have any problems affording to pay.....}

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16 Dec 2010 12:22:47
Liverpool are rumoured to be readying a January bid for Partizan Belgrade striker Cleo. Anfield boss Roy Hodgson has been monitoring the progress of the Brazilian and believes the powerfully built 25 year old could act as a good foil for Fernando Torres and would add more variety to an attack that has lacked a spark this season.

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Im sorry. That is completely unacceptable from Woy "I don't buy France's best striker and players who score 49 goals in a season" Hodgson. Suarez and Benzema are on the market and hes planning to buy Cleo! Pathetic. This bloke plays for Partizan who are s* t! Why would we want another striker who doesn't score in the PL?? Sick of Hodgson, just * * off get King Kenny to manage, he will get good signings and get us back to the CL!

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16 Dec 2010 12:19:35
Dale Roberts, YNWA.

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16 Dec 2010 12:17:43
What's the point in tracking Cleo from Partizan as a foil for Torres. If Torres is intent on leaving, what is the point. Look elsewhere.

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16 Dec 2010 12:12:15
{ed's note - I am of the opinion that January will be fairly quiet and we are not likely to do much, a striker and a winger will be the most likely players to join the club. But it is a difficult thing to know with signings being by committee. I am worried he will suffer the same problems Forest have with their transfer panel. It needs to have one man making the final decision or nothing will actually get done.}
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Ed from everything I have read and all the interviews with Commoli and Hodgson, I believe Hodgson has the final say on who we do/ do not sign.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - I don't, that would be incredibly stupid to bring in Comolli and then let Hodgson have the final say right now.}

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Some logic here :

1. Roy Hodson will not select any targets of his own.
2. Comolli will propose the names of the targets.
3. Hodgson will then accept/ reject names.

This means that Hodgson will not bring his own targets to the table. for eg. Carlton Cole, Scott Parker. . .

So basically the final decision will be Roy's but primarily the target will not be Roy's targets.

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16 Dec 2010 11:44:42
Apperntly liverpool are going for Mike Frantz of fc nurenburg who is he? any good? what do you think ed? {ed's note - I haven't seen him play, sorry, just know he is a young forward that has been getting a bit of hype recently.}

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16 Dec 2010 11:41:21
If Liverpool lose against Fulham then Hodgson to be sacked?

believable

Unbelievable

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16 Dec 2010 11:36:04
Instead of looking at different ST positions we havent really been looking for 1 layer that really caught my eye during the worldcup and his form at his club Napoli has been outstanding. Offcourse im talking about Edison Cavani. .

He would be class for us. .

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16 Dec 2010 11:10:07
I am the author of "the Madness of King Roy" postings and have supported LFC since 1961. Not that it means I am a better or more fervent supporter than a young guy of 20 who has been a supporter for only the past five or six years. There is room for us both and we are better club having such a wide cross section of supporters. In fact, it is one of the things that singles us, Arsenal and Man United fans out from the current Chelsea and Man City fans. But, I digress and wander . .

I'm not that keen on the musings about what the editor(s) think of the totally unbelievable selections for next season that includes Ronaldo, Messi and Christine Aguilera; I have no truck with people who claim to know more than the people who work in the club and at the club and are mates of mates of mates of mates who know nothing! I'm not interested in the abuse on here nor the personal abuse of Roy Hodgson. What I am interested in is the direction we are going.

I suspect that we will finally release Roy Hodgson from his unequal struggle at the end of the season. In his place I do not see Frank Rijkaard, Louis van Gaal or some of the more obscure Spanish managers we are seemingly obsessed with. Rafa has gone and the Spanish influence is waning at the club. Having said that, I see the next manager as being local to that sphere of influence - Jose Mourinho.

My reasons are numrous, but just to quickly sum up: his tenure at Real Madrid has been bumpy and over the past few weeks there have been many rumours in the mainland European media that he has a fractious relationship with some of the players and senior management. More importantly for me, he has what he would call 'unfinished business' in the Premier League.

He is wealthy enough to walk away from any job, but poor enough in ego to want to stride the European stage once more. His oft asserted view that Man United would be ideal for him is a fanciful one for at least the next three years. I do not see Ferguson wandering away anytime soon. The club's financial stability is in many ways centred on him staying.

Mourinho will be tempted by Manchester City and their wealth, but I wonder whether he does have some sense of European history and desire that will drag him to us. He has toyed (we are told) with the idea of managing us, but the derisory comments attributed to him about Liverpool FC, I dismiss as mischief making from certain people in the media.

There is no doubt that John Henry and NESV will have the financial capacity to cope with Mourinho, providing he buys into their laudable idea of using younger players and buying them to use NOW, not three years down the line! Last night's use of Eccleston and Shelvey still seems to me something that Roy Hodgson is not comfortable with - not that I know that, but the way he talks about them makes me feel less assured he likes doing it.

If Mourinho does come to Liverpool, then I see it as part of a plan from NESV to establish us a more long-term winners, rather than overnight sensations with money. Herein lies the crux of MCFC's problem. They believe in the Chelsea solution of throwing obscene amounts of money around to secure short-term gains. They feel it will prove a recipe for long-term success. My view is different. Chelsea have been intermittent domestic champions, but they have failed (for that is what it is, by an inch or a mile is irrelevant) to conquer Europe and they crave that. The same will happen to MCFC. The key to long-term success is building slowly and investing wisely. Damien Comoli may be the our second part in this jigsaw.

So . . my tip is for Mourinho to buy into this philosophy and join Liverpool FC for 2011-12. I am not a guru, no Septic Sid with a crystal ball. But what I do have is a view NOT based on fanciful jibberish and wishlists. If that were the case, I suspect I would be believing that Sam Allardyce is more than a windbag and bluff old defender with a sense of his own importance!

Steve Parker

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16 Dec 2010 10:55:24
Chances of aquilani returning from loan in the summer ed? I know there is a buy out clause in his contract but do lfc have the option to retain him if they don't want to sell? {ed's note - according to the statement released at the time, he is loaned with a view to buy. So he will only return if they decide they don't want him or are unable to agree terms with him.}

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16 Dec 2010 10:53:55
Linked with Cleo again today. Ed, do you know much info about this guy? only read on internet about him and seen youtube bits so not a fair reflection! would he be a good buy? {ed's note - I am a bit dubious about him, he never showed anything against Arsenal to suggest he would be a good buy.}

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16 Dec 2010 10:51:12
January is coming lets see what happens. i doubt that lots will happen but i hope im wrong btw boudebouz is class playing well in the french league! ( good league! ) and Santi Cazorla if we can get him for less than 8 million then do it? he's top class spanish quick 2 footed got skills hes very much like david silva/ luka modric attacking
SIGN HONDA NOW!

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16 Dec 2010 10:41:14
It seems to me that anyone wishing to leave Liverpool in January would have packed his wife back of to Spain so that she could have their baby there. As someone who has lived in Holland for more than 35 years I know how homesick that one can be at such times when there is no immediate family around. Hopefully things will soon go better with Fernando and we shall the goals going in again. I still believe that some club is going to feel the brunt of his frustration in the near future.
Mal 50

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16 Dec 2010 10:40:10
Any news on the fitness of Daniel Agger, we could do with him playing.

Spriggo

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16 Dec 2010 10:40:01
Torres set to hand in transfer request later this week and wants to leave anfield in january

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you are clearly an idiot!

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16 Dec 2010 10:39:14
Which managers do you think we are looking at? Also what style of manager? (e.g. Age, attacking/ defensive).

Ed? {ed's note - I don't have any kind of concrete info on who, but judging by the people they have talked to and dismissed (Rijkaard and Pellegrini) it seems they are looking for someone who likes to play passing football.}

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16 Dec 2010 10:37:56
There has been a lot of positive talk by NESV thus far, however we've heard this before from our previous american owners and we know how that turned out.
So I believe that this January transfer window will be a pivotal one for us as we'll see if NESV are all talk or actually people of action.

Granted, most players are unlikely to move in January but we desperately need at least 1 winger, a striker and some sort of flair player (a real 10).

I suggest realistic targets for January:
Mata - winger
Klose - striker
: Ronaldinho - flair player.

summer targets:
LLorente/ Mueller - striker
Hazard - winger
Lahm - left back (he prefers the left).

Yes its unlikely that we'll get all but surely NESV should at least try since we are LIVERPOOL FC and the supporters deserve it

We had enough of these mediocre players we need proven world class players at this great club.

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16 Dec 2010 10:33:28
I like the look of Ryad Boudebouz, but I am with the Ed on his point, what is the use of buying young players who are full of potential, for roy to put them in the reserves to play with youth players.Now he is under pressure, don't be suprised to see us play even deeper.I mean, if he had left the shackles off last night and had ago, it would be against his philosophy of how to play the game.It won't take the owners much longer to agree with the fans, that this is not exciting to watch. A decision must be made soon, with the three wise men in the stands last night coming in, would be a start.They know what the fans want. Come on Henry Tom give them ago till the end of the season.

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16 Dec 2010 10:19:05
I am good friends with Richard Dunne and he is looking to leave Villa. He would love to join Liverpool and believes his agent might be able to work something as they are in need of someone like him there. Hopes Villa will take 4-5 mil for him and let him go. Everton, Spurs and Sunderland have enquired already so price may change?

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16 Dec 2010 10:16:44
HODGSON OUT. . . that will be all

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16 Dec 2010 10:16:02
15 Dec 2010 22:52:38
Torres set to hand in transfer request later this week and wants to leave anfield in january
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Shut up manc. Go f*** alex ferguson.
Torres plays because he loves the club. Fat rooney plays for money. Its weird how man utd fans are suddenly licking his arse again. . After what he said. .

Harry5:)

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16 Dec 2010 10:10:39
If Real Madrid want Glen Johnson we should say only if you give us Sergio Ramos or Xabi Alonso in a straight swap!

Lets not get bullied in the market yet again !

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16 Dec 2010 09:45:42
Ronaldinho to Liverpool
Suarez to Liverpool
Honda to Liverpool

we will get non

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16 Dec 2010 08:29:53
Rafa to payback his payout to come back to LFC.
Rafa has NOT sold his house ad want to come back he loves the club
King

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16 Dec 2010 08:24:45
I mates in Spain have emailed me the papers are all saying Torres wants to go back to Spain as his wife wants to be closer to her family.
King

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16 Dec 2010 08:06:49
I would hazzard a guess that Woy's u-turn on senior players last night was a direct result of the owners warning that he has to start winning games fast or he will be history. Starting with Fulham the pressure is surely now on Woy.
I wish him well in his new job!
solidair

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16 Dec 2010 07:56:04
Sergio Ramos to liverpool . Liverpool are preparing a player exchange deal which would see glen johnson and sergio Ramos switching ends

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16 Dec 2010 07:40:50
Just to point out that October 16th to January 16th is four months. Count em September November December. So December 16th was the cut off if this clause is correct.

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no he's just roy's son. (stupidity in the genes)
by the way we're not getting fanni now. .
Someone asked if Tom Kings actual first name was Wan. I guess that would be another option

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16 Dec 2010 07:20:40
Liverpool are rumoured to be readying a January bid for Partizan Belgrade striker Cleo. Anfield boss Roy Hodgson has been monitoring the progress of the Brazilian and believes the powerfully built 25 year old could act as a good foil for Fernando Torres and would add more variety to an attack that has lacked a spark this season.

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16 Dec 2010 06:52:41
{ed's note - I am of the opinion that January will be fairly quiet and we are not likely to do much, a striker and a winger will be the most likely players to join the club. But it is a difficult thing to know with signings being by committee. I am worried he will suffer the same problems Forest have with their transfer panel. It needs to have one man making the final decision or nothing will actually get done.}
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Ed from everything I have read and all the interviews with Commoli and Hodgson, I believe Hodgson has the final say on who we do/ do not sign.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - I don't, that would be incredibly stupid to bring in Comolli and then let Hodgson have the final say right now.}

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16 Dec 2010 06:08:22
Does ed or anyine else know about the progress of Raheem Sterling? He was meant to be a brilliant winger, and seemed very good at carra's game. has something happened to him or can he provide the width we need?

Still learning his game with Rudolfo in accademy he's a bit young and not ready yet, He's not even regular for ressies, give him time maybe, 3-4 yrs yet

UCCM {ed's note - isn't he only just 16?}

not trying to be smart or anything, but how old is suso? just tried google/ wiki and couldn't find it, but i thought he was 16 too. hasn't he had a couple of appearances? {ed's note - he is and no he hasn't yet.}

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16 Dec 2010 06:00:39
Hey ed how do you rate nesu of utrecht he looks a class act {ed's note - you can't judge a defender playing against a team that didn't make him have to defend.}

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16 Dec 2010 05:58:21
Who would you prefer to be a substitute to slot into centre mid
lucas - bel
shelvey - unbel

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16 Dec 2010 05:05:34
Whatever happened to rumpled linking Arda Turan to Pool? Thought he was desperate to join his boyhood club? Would add some much needed flair and creativity to an otherwise dull and slow first 11.

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