Liverpool Rumours Archive July 16 2021

 

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16 Jul 2021 16:34:40
Ed2 are Madrid trying to sign Salah?

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{Ed002's Note - Mo Salah (RW/F) Liverpool could cash in to fund transfers but there is no clear interest at this time after he and his agent pricing him out of a move with previous attempts to leave. His "representative" has again been doing the rounds this time also asking Bayern Munich, PSG and surprisingly Chelsea if they are interested. I suspect that Barcelona and Real Madrid may also have been approached again. Liverpool will likely look to a new contract but don't be surprised of an offer from PSG but there is nothing right now. Real Madrid have other targets.

16 Jul 2021 20:14:06
Salah will go anywhere that flashes him a large wedge.

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16 Jul 2021 20:15:22
Unless it meant getting Mbappe or Haaland for their youth and goals, the sale of Salah is just madness. It would take Liverpool from Prem/ ULC contenders, to 4th - 6th.
But we did sell Suarez and replace him with Lambert so it can happen at our club šŸ˜‚.

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16 Jul 2021 20:15:08
Is money motivating his desire to leave Ed002.

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{Ed002's Note - At his age he has lost the high-money and poster boy opportunity.}

16 Jul 2021 20:29:33
Considering his age Salah could be the most expensive player on the market today.

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16 Jul 2021 20:40:56
Selling Salah would end any chance of challenging next season. Thereā€™s no chance that Mbappe or Haaland would come because of the transfer fee, wages and agents fees involved. I canā€™t think of one player that we can realistically bring in to replace him.

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16 Jul 2021 23:55:18
I remember when we signed a winger from Roma who'd only scored about 15 goals the previous season. "Chelsea reject" i think they called him at the time.

Then he smashed in 44 goals in his debut season and broke the Premier League 38 game record which nobody thought could be broken. Not bad eh?

If Salah leaves then i will be truly gutted. He's the ome of the top 5 players to play for Liverpool in my lifetime and he is criminally under rated. But the same people who pulled him out of nowhere, will pull another gem out the back pocket if they're called upon.

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16 Jul 2021 23:57:40
Lucky we don't have to do the thinking. We didn't think of bringing in Salah, Bobby, or mane either did we. Every player is replaceable, and will eventually have to be replaced.

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17 Jul 2021 00:16:33
Salah will eventually leave, like all players have to. I guess we have to think what the best outcome is.

Bet anyone anything, if he's still here in 2 seasons when "his legs have gone" or whatever injuries catch him up, plenty will be saying we should have sold him when we could have got decent money "and invested in" whoever. Mbappe, Haarland, etc.

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{Ed0666's Note - come on mate weā€™re never gonna get Mbappe or Haaland those are pipe dreams! We mayne on the top table when itā€™s comes to playing football but we do t eat at the top table when it comes to transfers. At best we done at the table thatā€™s next. This is not a slight on the owners just reality as Iā€™m good with where we done. Itā€™s made us who we are today.

17 Jul 2021 04:19:17
The people running the club managed to buy Salah and Mane for reasonable fees didnā€™t they - whatā€™s to stop them doing the same again. Oh yes hey also managed to win the Champions League and EPL too .

The people falling over themselves to say we donā€™t want x, y or z bear quite a resemblance to those who didnā€™t want Salah, Mane, Wijnaldum, Robinson, Henderson etc, etc, when they signed.

Whilst itā€™s a fans forum and we all have an opinion and some of us gave experience of playing Premier League Manager etc., perhaps we could put a bit of trust in the people being paid to run the club?

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17 Jul 2021 07:22:29
The people running the club also bought Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Markovic and Carroll. Letā€™s not sit here and pretend that replacing Salah is going to be easy or that weā€™ll even do it adequately, specifically when you look at the names bandied about, it should terrify you, itā€™s been said on countless occasions that theyā€™d seriously consider bringing in Traore or Sarr (neither of whom are fit to lace his boots) as a replacement for Salah, thereā€™s absolutely no way that the owners will spend on a top class forward, or even from the tier below that. Theyā€™ll try and do it on the cheap.

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{Ed001's Note - those are Klopp's choices. The owners don't do recruitment.}

17 Jul 2021 08:27:07
We do not rely on one player anymore as the club is run well in that respect. Gone are the days of one man teams w Luis or Stevie Me.
We can sell anyone and make a new star player, which is where the real skill lies, so if Mo wants to leave to get paid more, that's his prerogative. People who think players should be loyal need to get a grip, as most of those same people would gladly goto a new job that paid them double if it helped them and their families situation.
Id be happy to see all of the front 3 leave and to rebuild with mid level players, its much more fun than playing the city way.
The very fact that we can be this confident and not worry about transfers anymore is an absolute gift.

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17 Jul 2021 08:49:35
VVVV literally all those players you mentioned were under the previous management regime. Itā€™s a tad snobbish to say that Traore and Sarr arenā€™t fit to lace anyoneā€™s boots. When we were signing players from Newcastle, Southampton, Hull etc they werenā€™t exactly world class players and Iā€™m sure people reacted similarly and were proven wrong. This isnā€™t FIFA or Football Manager mate.

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17 Jul 2021 09:06:32
Selling Salah would make us considerably weaker, heā€™s our best forward player.

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17 Jul 2021 11:31:27
Sarr and Traore are both very good footballers, whoever Klopp brings in i trust.

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17 Jul 2021 12:09:25
All the players listed were signed under FSGā€™s ownership.

Itā€™s not snobbish at all. Neither of Traore or Sarr are remotely capable of replacing Salahā€™s contribution. Thatā€™s just a matter of truth.

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17 Jul 2021 13:17:18
More often than not, players are improved by working with Klopp (and the coaching staff) so players that we're linked with aren't necessarily the finished article. Players who have as yet unrealised potential are ideal for us.

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17 Jul 2021 14:14:38
It really bothers me that his reps have reached out to Chelsea. I don't understand why they would do that other than they believe they can milk them for a new big contract.

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17 Jul 2021 08:41:53
Hey Ed666 - I agree and for me it makes it all the sweeter winning trophies doing it that way. Shows off Klopp and teams amazing talents when it comes to coaching and improving players.

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{Ed0666's Note - agreed mate

17 Jul 2021 15:04:43
Going nowhere, all part of the bargaining over a new contract. Salah will definitely be with us next year 100%.

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17 Jul 2021 15:26:14
Signing a roughly 30 goal a season inside forward/ winger like Salah will always be difficult which is why we wonā€™t try to. We make those players not buy them. Salah wasnā€™t hitting those numbers before he joined us. Any recruitment is risky, I personally somewhat agree with VVVV Iā€™m that Traore and Sarr are not the best choices, but if Klopp reckons he can turn one of or both of those two into world beater then I think he has done enough to be trusted by the fans.

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17 Jul 2021 16:24:57
In saying those (transfers are klopps choice) I'm sure they say you
Got so much deal with it. If it was klopps choice then mbappe would be coming.

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{Ed001's Note - what is your point? That is the same at every club, but it is not the owners setting the budget, the club runs itself.}

17 Jul 2021 17:41:33
I don't know where anyone is getting this info from but Salah is going nowhere.

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17 Jul 2021 17:46:24
How is it we donā€™t eat at the top table with transfers? We for a week had the most expensive keeper in football at Ā£67m
The most expensive CB for a season at Ā£75m
Regular bench/ sub players Keita, Ox and Jota cost Ā£120m
Even our bargain hunting forward line cost Ā£100m to put together. Isnā€™t that still the most expensive in the EPL? Or maybe second to Chelsea?
Just wondering the thought process behind the week donā€™t spend moneyā€™ comes from?

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17 Jul 2021 18:14:00
I think people need to look at where players like Salah, Mane, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Van Dijk . were at performance wise before they played under Jurgen Norbert Klopp. As long as we have Klopp we have a chance of competing for the big prizes.

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17 Jul 2021 20:53:36
I don't think he grasps that that club can't spend what they don't have Ed. so weather the club has 250,000 to spend or 250m the choice is klopps not the owners.

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18 Jul 2021 05:17:08
Actually Salah was Edwards choice, Klopp wanted a german player, so its not quite as straight forward as always Klopps choice. The data/ research plays such a big part, and so it should so that we don't end up with Paul stewarts and Razor Ruddocks.

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{Ed001's Note - it was not Edwards' choice at all. Klopp was after Brandt, couldn't get him but then was convinced by the club's data analysts to go for Salah. Klopp made the decision.}

18 Jul 2021 10:52:54
Thanks Ed001. Still, how different things are these days compared to the Sou-mess era re signings.

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{Ed001's Note - very true. Souness didn't understand that you needed players to be able to do more than kick opponents into submission. He just bought a team of thugs that didn't deserve to wear the shirt.}

18 Jul 2021 12:10:09
There's an old interview going round where Klopp says he had Edwards, Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter in his ear everyday telling him Salah was the solution until they convinced Klopp to say yes. So I think the whole scouting/ recruitment team had input on Salah.

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18 Jul 2021 13:26:31
I am so glad that those days are gone. Buying Diouf and Diao cause they had a coupe of good games in a world cup is like shopping on wish because the advert told you the product was good.

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16 Jul 2021 09:57:28
Ed's do we still hold interest in Sarr or did that ship sail when we signed Jota?

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{Ed002's Note - Jota was third choice behind Sarr and Traore - he was signed because Wolves would accept payments spread over a longer period. Liverpool want a versatile attacking player and maintain an interest in the others.}

16 Jul 2021 11:17:08
Seems we should always go for our lesser choices as Salah and Jota seemed to have turned out wellā€¦.

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16 Jul 2021 11:16:20
@Ed002, Jota was at Wolves obviously and Traore is still there. As we were interested in both, did Wolves want a higher percentage of the fee up front for Traore compared to Jota or was Traore's price higher than Jota's?

Asking because they were at the same club and we didn't sign our preferred option so it would be interesting to hear more on why. Also, people keep mentioning Traore but I expect he is valued highly by Wolves and I hope we don't match their valuation.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained why. Liverpool did not have the money to do anything other than make staged payments.}

16 Jul 2021 11:36:33
Jota > Traore. Mind you, having said they, Djimi Traore > Adama Traore.

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16 Jul 2021 11:39:15
Go on then Ed whereā€™s our interest looking?
Mbappe?
Coman the barbarian?
Fernando Torres?

On a serious note is it doku raphina?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

16 Jul 2021 15:42:07
Sorry Ed002 you misunderstood my question. Totally get that Liverpool could only afford staged payments but Traore and Jota were both Wolves and you mentioned we preferred Jota.

Another way to put my question - we moved for Jota instead of Traore because? . I think the answer is because Wolves wanted less for Jota than Traore but you will actually know so that's why I'm enquiring.

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{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this. Traore was preferred but Wolves wanted paying for him and sold Liverpool Jota with spread payments.}

16 Jul 2021 18:06:51
So glad we got Jota instead of Traore, but i bet Wolves wish it had been the other way round now.

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16 Jul 2021 16:56:53
Ok thanks Ed002, I understand your answer.

I don't understand Wolves' logic - money is money so strange how they wanted to be paid up front for Traore but not Jota.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not strange at all.}

17 Jul 2021 17:21:16
I don't mean to be one to correct you, Ed002:

{Ed002's Note - I have explained why. Liverpool did not have the money to do anything other than make staged payments. }

Liverpool could have increased the loan from the owners, or used the revolving credit facility didn't wish to deficit spend in financial year heavily impacted by disruption form C.V.. They were one of the only clubs not to deficit spend during the season, unlike Manchester City or even Chelsea.

They also won't this season after the full impact of C.V. hits in the second year of accounts affected by it. Add to that, the low initial fees of Jota and Thiago, and there's already a sizable cash outlay for this season.

Fans do need to understand, though, that all these contract renewals and first professional contracts cost money, and what the club has to spend will be impacted by the associated costs.

Renewed contracts are considered important for the likes of Alisson, Fabinho, Virgil van Dijk, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Andy Robertson and Mohamed Salah. Income received for broadcasting deffered to the following accounting period will help with this, but I'd suggest that these renewals are more important than transfers, to protect the value of these players.

Based on its last few financials financials, I would expect after the purchase of Konate, Liverpool probably has a transfer budget remaining of around Ā£90m. Transfer budgets are never worked out on fees though, and include wages. agent costs, etc. The benefit Liverpool has here, is wages should reduce this season by around 10-12m, due to lesser performance incentives - meaning it can easily stick to both Premier League an FFP rules on wage increase limits.

One interesting stat, is the two seasons Liverpool spend bit on Wages and Transfers, they one trophies. Granted, the one before they came as close as one point from winning the league, but after spending just short of Ā£30m last season (net), it didn't work out as well. Pay as you play, indeed.

I don't expect to see us spend Ā£200m, and I'd be worried if we did, but I expect we have a little more than people think. Next season is when I expect us to spend.

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{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point. The club needs to work towards balancing the bookd and stop accumulating debt. You are making it up about transfer budgets.}

18 Jul 2021 02:30:09
Ed666, that's precisely my point.

The are those that will say we shouldn't sell Salah at any cost, but when his form eventually drops they will then say we should have sold him when we could have reaped a top fee and "invested" in {fantasy football} names.

We can't have it both ways. Like MKS says, the club will find another talisman. I suppose the option of selling a player, especially as they get older, is always on the table and will be weighing up the cost/ benefit of selling or hanging on depending on who can be brought in.

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{Ed0666's Note - mate we may possibly get a Aubamayang situation with Salah if we give him a shiny new bells and whistles 5 year contract but have we got a choice? How the hell do you replace what Mo does? He could have easily won the golden boot the last 4 seasons, playing on the wing. That pure insanity. Heā€™s not even an out and out striker. We have to treat him like Ronaldo or Messi and make an exception just this once, heā€™s just that good. I donā€™t care if he loses his pace and is missing sitters in two years what he brings to the table NOW is far too valuable to replicate by selling him and taking a chance replacing him.

18 Jul 2021 20:18:01
Ed0666, it's not just for now, in my opinion. We're seeing Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Modric, Buffon and other players still being able to make a serious impact for their teams past the age of 35 (and that's still 6 years away for Mo) . If they can do it, why can't Salah? Salah shows just as much drive and determination as any of these guys, no reason why he can't excel at a later age.

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{Ed0666's Note - the caveat to youā€™re comment is a large component of salahā€™s game is about pace and once he loses that I feel his capabilities on the wing will be diminished so then Iā€™d like to see him in the bobby position and tutor Harvey and the Polish kid if he makes the grade.

18 Jul 2021 20:46:14
That is all true, except I reckon his position is wing in name only.

For all we know, the club already have a plan in place to replace him when the right time comes.

In the meantime we could do worse than having Mo in the team for a while yet. I hope he keeps this form til the time he leaves, otherwise the I told you sos will be telling us they told us so.

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19 Jul 2021 09:46:49
Who cares abt "I told you sos"? Are we going to run our club on people opinions now? šŸ¤·.

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16 Jul 2021 07:21:32
Jeremy Doku will be our main signing this window.

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16 Jul 2021 08:12:14
Hope not.

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16 Jul 2021 08:12:51
Is that a prediction or a guess?

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16 Jul 2021 08:15:08
Surely Divock Origi fills our quota of non goal scoring Belgian forwards?

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16 Jul 2021 08:45:56
Havenā€™t seen that of him but what Iā€™ve seen Iā€™ve liked. Still only a kid and has potential. If it came down to spending money, I would prefer the club buy him rather than Renato Sanches.

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16 Jul 2021 08:50:28
two completely different players that play in different positions A-Klopp it'll be both or another two the clubs looking for a CM and a versatile forward it seems.

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16 Jul 2021 09:00:11
Doku will develop into a fine player over time.

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16 Jul 2021 10:01:46
Iā€™m sceltical about him signing, but heā€™s a better option than Traore and he could develop over time given heā€™s only 19.

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16 Jul 2021 11:18:10
Count Doku?

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16 Jul 2021 13:19:09
Kloppers- understand they play in different positions. Was talking purely about if we were to spend money on a player, Iā€™d rather the club spent it on Doku rather than Sanches who I just donā€™t get. šŸ‘.

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17 Jul 2021 12:38:24
Count Doku with the dark side he is!

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