Liverpool Rumours Archive August 18 2017

 

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18 Aug 2017 15:54:54
According to Paul Joyce Liverpool have rejected a £118 million bid for Coutinho.

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18 Aug 2017 16:10:52
Stupid move by the club.

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18 Aug 2017 16:14:15
Good the owners are passing a message to the rest of the squad and to the other teams that Liverpool cannot be forced into doing anything they don't want to either by a player or another club. We have our price they either pay it and take him or he stays where he is and in a world cup year we 'll see if he is willing to risk his place in the Brazil team.

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{Ed002's Note - This is nothing to do with the owners, and nobody is listening to any messages. It is like some sort of joke reading these posts.}

18 Aug 2017 16:15:45
Holding our for 135 milll I've heard. How true that is though i don't know.

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18 Aug 2017 16:16:44
Why if a) they want to keep the player or b) they think this under values the player?

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18 Aug 2017 16:17:19
Yeah really stupid move keeping your best player.

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18 Aug 2017 16:17:40
Hopefully they get the hint and we get one of season out of him!

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18 Aug 2017 16:33:10
A 'statement of intent' or another 'smokescreen' lol.

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18 Aug 2017 16:34:50
100 odd million would be a lot to spend on an unnecessary message don't you think? People need to get out of the tabloid way of thinking. The acceptance or rejection of an offer is nothing to do with any other clubs or players. We don't have time for an adequate replacement to come in so unless a ridiculous offer comes in, it won't happen. It's the same with RBL - don't need to sell, won't sell, and so the list goes on.

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18 Aug 2017 16:51:11
If there was a ready made replacement available, I would agree that it was stupid. Right now there is no one who fills the void he would leave. Plus I'm glad we're not allowing Barcelona to bullying us into selling.

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18 Aug 2017 17:04:07
Yeah, real stupid move keeping a player that doesn't want to stay Halifax.

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18 Aug 2017 17:34:40
"so unless a ridiculous offer comes in, it won't happen" is ONE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN MILLION POUNDS not ridiculous enough for a man that cost £8m and wants to leave.

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18 Aug 2017 17:42:36
Apparently made up of a lot of add ons.

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18 Aug 2017 18:37:09
What good is another £118m to spend when we can't spend the money we already have. Lack of cash is not our problem, lack of attainable first team players to improve our team is. Selling our best player won't help this either.

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18 Aug 2017 19:00:32
Absolutely nailed on 5G.

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18 Aug 2017 19:01:37
Amen to that 5 gold, if we can't use the money to improve thw squad then its useless. We lose our beat player and can't replace him but we are a few million quid better off? No thanks.

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18 Aug 2017 19:12:00
You need to forget about how much he cost. By that definition Harry Kane isn't worth anywhere near what it would cost to buy him. Or Dele Alli etc etc. It's about what he is worth now to us as a club and 114million isn't ridiculous or over the top for one of the worlds best, most creative players in his position. Who could we go and get for that amount? Think before you get crazy about zeros.

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18 Aug 2017 19:16:30
People keep saying Barcelona are comi g after our best player, there after coutinho not mane guys.

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18 Aug 2017 19:19:01
THE most sense of read on here in a long time 5 Gold Stars. Well said sir.

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18 Aug 2017 19:22:35
I think we'd cope ok without him. We've managed before. What would we get out of him if we deny him his move?

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18 Aug 2017 19:34:04
Think its a good message from the board to the fans that their not all about profit. also, how much of this is just Barcelona using transfer publicity to cover their current gradual decline from being Europe's no.1?

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18 Aug 2017 19:50:36
Its not that we can't buy players with the money we have, its that the clubs don't want to sell. We could still spend money needlessly on secondary targets.
You all need to realise that even without Coutinho or Sturridge we have still scored goals, we need a defense, and better organisation in defense.
As Macca said, it is entirely possible that we are waiting for confirmation of CL qualification before making our moves.

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18 Aug 2017 20:01:23
Well I am tied on this, I think if they offer £118 mil straight with no add ons, I would take it. BUT not at this time in the window!
Basically easy, and inferred by Eds - teams panic buying pay more at this stage. All will know we have £118 mil "in the bank" and anyone we want will be £20mil more! Exactly the same as what we see with Barcelona having £200mil "in the bank"
It's random time!

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18 Aug 2017 20:10:29
If we accept s 130 million offer we could nab deli Ali. Spurs are always willing to do business if the price is right.

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18 Aug 2017 20:39:58
If the report i just read is correct no wonder they turned it down. 82.1 mil guaranteed the rest in clauses, which range from goals scored, winning La Liga, winning Champs league and winning Ballon d'Or.

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18 Aug 2017 16:25:31
If its nothin too do wid owners ed whos it too do with, we all going dullalley wid this transfer window an this a gossip site so we jus tryin too grasp some optimism.

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18 Aug 2017 16:33:40
Eds, sorry if I'm a bit slow but, what do you mean by it has nothing to do with our owners?

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18 Aug 2017 16:54:47
Ed002 you say it's got nothing to do with the owners? Am I reading that wrong? If the club have turned down a new offer or if they accept it, it's got everything to do with owners surely?

Thanks.

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18 Aug 2017 22:11:52
Does that figure include the statue?

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18 Aug 2017 23:01:16
The owners don't run the club, they own it.

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19 Aug 2017 00:39:01
Supposedly the offer is for 80 Million with the remaining 36 Million as add-ons. And the 80 Million is not to be paid up front; maybe as much as over five years. So what's the point? Sell Coutinho and buy VVD or Kieta for almost the same amount? No wonder it got rejected immediately.

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19 Aug 2017 03:37:12
Yup 82.1 upfront and the rest is is on performance related like Cout becoming a Good, save the world with Spiderman and become a member of the intergalactic peace keeper.

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19 Aug 2017 07:07:28
The owners employ the people who run the club.

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19 Aug 2017 07:54:00
If the terms really are that level then well done the club for turning it down. If they feel has to be over 100m then that has to be what the club will get. When is irrelevant to an extent (I would think spread payments are quite useful for accounting and revenue purposes for most clubs), that it is money that will be paid is the issue.

Still less laughable clauses quoted there than Palace's initial Benteke bid including a chunk being reliant on them qualifying for ECL.

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19 Aug 2017 09:44:03
Tbh just my opinion, couts should have thought about the potential of Barcelona when signing a 5 year deal with no release clause, if rumours are true then Barcelona have been sniffing for over a year or so, surely he or his agent would have knew this,

Fair play to Liverpool for sticking to there guns, he might want to ask his agent a few questions tho,

Hopefully if he is here in September this can all get put behind and stick together,

(Thoughts and prayers are with the people in Barcelona and all the friends and families of the injured and the sadly lost)

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{Ed001's Note - Barca were not sniffing around him, he was sniffing around them. I believe his choice to sign the new contract was based on a belief that they would not come in for him for at least a year, if at all.}

19 Aug 2017 18:26:41
Great result today 1st off, I am fascinated too see wat this guys attitude is like if we don't sell him, jus going off wat paul joyces reported that he said phil would never play for us again or wear the shirt he could actually redeem him self by knuckling down giving us one season then we can sell him, he never asked for a clause in his contract so he should show respect, I know players these days have no loyalty especially those from south america an europe but this is showing him in a bad light he could leave on good terms from the club that has made him a world star and a 1st teamer for brazil he is really comin into his own as a world class talent an we could so do with him.

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19 Aug 2017 21:26:09
Ed 001.if what your saying is true about couts sniffing around Barcelona before signing his contract, then it seems he has gambled and lost, I can understand why he'd wanna go, but he must have realised at the time this could be a possible outcome. can't have it both ways.

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{Ed002's Note - I have been explaining this to you for more than a year.}

20 Aug 2017 09:32:34
Mane is our best player.

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20 Aug 2017 22:41:29
The first reply to op just hit 100 down votes 😂 haven't seen that for a long time xD.

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21 Aug 2017 03:32:15
I wouldn't have sold neither. LFC say Not For Sale, at a terrible time in the window, after selling Neymar, and build an offer at 80m that could potentially reach 118m. Not to mention some paid over 5 years. And (if rumours are true) give LFC a deadline to reconsider? hahaha. Did the Madrid drumming knock ya senseless?

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18 Aug 2017 12:06:11
Heard mahrez is being lined up to replace couts 🤔🤔surely not as he plays on the right wing doesn't he eds. have anyone heard anything on this and can mahrez play more central if needed 👍.

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{Ed001's Note - the only club I know of in for him is still Roma, who won't match the asking price. Arsenal are the likeliest team from the Prem to try and sign him, as Wenger does like him.}

18 Aug 2017 12:18:30
Thanks for the reply bud. he is a cracking player just couldn't see where he'd fit in in our line up👍👍.

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18 Aug 2017 13:07:02
Is there any truth in luan from gremio.

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18 Aug 2017 13:15:48
We have firmino

Go and get a striker.

Hendo can
Salah firmino mane
Xxx xxx.

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18 Aug 2017 14:12:51
We obviously have bigger probs at back we need too pull out all the stops too get vvd or someone who is dominant in the air and a leader_organiser.

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18 Aug 2017 14:14:42
I liked the idea of luan cos he is a number 10 and striker apparently.

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18 Aug 2017 15:04:57
We need a no.9 not another Bobby.

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18 Aug 2017 15:13:05
True and also the south american prob of becomin world class then wanting madrid or barca.

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18 Aug 2017 02:07:56
Hi eds, I know you got a lot of questions about who's coming in. Do you have any information in regards to players leaving? Thanks!

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{Ed001's Note - Goalies: Bogdan will go as soon as he is fit. Probably be January now. Ward is unhappy at being a back up and would like to either be in the team or out on loan.

Defence: Little to no interest in Sakho, his demands and injury on top of our ridiculous asking price has left him high and dry right now. Probably be stuck with him until January, unless someone panic buys him. Flanagan is available for sale.

Midfield: Interest in Can from Juve has now gone for now. It is likely he will see out the season and evaluate his offers when his contract expires in the summer. Strange the way we have messed him about like this when he is clearly seen as a back up when all are fit and we tried to sign another midfielder to push him even further down the pecking order. Milner is the oddity, he wants to be a starter, wasn't happy at playing left back but understand the need, now he is just a utility player, which is what he hated doing at Citeh. While the club are not pushing him out of the door, I am sure he will want us to accept any offers which arrive for him.

Attack: Markovic is available but we have priced him out of a move.}

18 Aug 2017 07:46:49
Ed you haven't included Morono (I have spelt that right) . Please tell we are not intending to keep him now, on the strength of one good performance preseason. I was hoping his starts were to put him in the shop window.

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{Ed001's Note - there is no one interested in meeting the asking price and he has an excellent attitude and works hard at his game.}

18 Aug 2017 08:07:25
Hi all,
United fan here, thanks for the Eds as always.
What about Draxler as a replacement for the potential Coutinhio departure? Is that possible?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I hope not, we have shown no interest prior to this.}

18 Aug 2017 08:40:04
To be honest Ed1, I don't think we have messed Can about. He has finished the last two seasons strong, but not started them great. He is quite young so not going to shout about inconsistency etc, in fact I quite like him as a player. He gets plenty of minutes in a season to stake his clame on the first team CM spot and if he plays better than the competition then he keeps his place, same as any player in the team.
Has he done enough to be a regular starter? For me yes, I think he has, but i don't think he has done enough to be the first name on the team sheet. If he wants to be a big player for a big club then he will be competing with top players week in week out for his place, regardless of who is bought and sold.
I am sure that we have offered him a very lucrative new contract, so not sure how we are messing him about?
Maybe I am missing something?

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{Ed001's Note - messing him about changing his position, not giving him a chance to settle into one.}

18 Aug 2017 09:17:54
Ed Do you rate Morono then? I can't see why we brought Robinson. Was he not a Klopp signing? Gomez even would be better at left back.

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{Ed001's Note - Moreno was excellent in La Liga but the team was set up for the way he plays, whereas we are not set up to cover for him. We just end up with massive gaps at the back. As for Robinson, no idea who that even is, it would help if you wanted to slag off our players if you learnt their actual names. Gomez was terrible at left back, after a couple of good games, bad enough to get dropped for Moreno prior to his injury.}

18 Aug 2017 09:55:54
Sorry I meant Roberson. What I meant was why buy him and not play him? I didn't want to slag the players, in fact I'm quite a positive fan, just don't rate our current left back.

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18 Aug 2017 11:35:43
It's been explained over an over, I'm not surprised the ed's get wound up, Jesus read the posts.

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18 Aug 2017 11:43:16
Who is roberson? 😜.

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18 Aug 2017 15:01:03
If can runs his contract down is there any chance he will stay? Won't he be seeing pound signs?

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18 Aug 2017 23:46:51
Doesn't Can want Hendo's position, cos if so and they're both fit, the captain starts in PL and European matches surely?

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20 Aug 2017 08:03:55
The thing is, its not about the money, with Can or Coutts as they would likely be on less money elsewhere.

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20 Aug 2017 09:34:42
Dont think either of them would be on less money and there isn't a need for elsewhere for Coutinho. He wants to go to Barcelona and that is it. They are hardly going to put this effort into signing him then try to short change on the salary. Can, if I am correct, hasn't been on a big deal at LFC and would be getting better money if he signed the deal at LFC. Again he isn't going to be offered less than he is on now by anyone including LFC. Significantly in both cases they have reasons other than money for leaving.

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18 Aug 2017 01:43:17
RBL signing kieta replacement from Bayern Lever.?

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18 Aug 2017 06:08:59
Apparently Kieta was training away from the squad the other day. Don't know if it's true but a few people have said it.

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18 Aug 2017 06:52:22
Could just be an injury, lots of Liverpool players train separately when they have small niggles.

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18 Aug 2017 08:15:59
Yeah, you're probably right.

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18 Aug 2017 10:27:29
Robertson Rob -ert-son
It's not difficult .

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18 Aug 2017 15:04:17
Macca has no reason (as far as I'm aware) to come on here and tell porkies. I think our lack of activity, in regards to MF reinforcments, speaks volumes of chance of signing kieta. I believe he is coming. Also think he will be explosive in premiership.

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18 Aug 2017 16:10:47
Redjames, post on the right thread, it's not difficult!

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