Liverpool Rumours Archive February 21 2018

21 Feb 2018 17:08:12
Turkish media says we are keeping tabs on Anderson Talisca, any truth ed002? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware over any interest being shown.}

22 Feb 2018 10:15:00
What's up with the disagrees? Absolutely hilarious.

Thanks a lot for the response ed002.

21 Feb 2018 17:48:05
I think we will sign Neves. Allison is a fantastic player who would cost upwards of £50 million and Klopp wouldn’t spend that kind of a sum on a keeper.

21 Feb 2018 17:53:54
Navas you mean from RM as Ed002 has suggested?

21 Feb 2018 17:56:36
Why not? Why settle for more average crap like we have for the last 5 years, we've just got a large fee for coutinho and should have a good budget on top of that aswell, a good keeper earns you an extra 10 points a season, if we want to be with the big boys we got to push the boat out now and then.

21 Feb 2018 18:08:04
Just as Klopp wouldn’t spend that much on a defender or midfielder harry? Not that he has much to do with money spent but we have done nothing to suggest that expensive players are out of reach.

21 Feb 2018 18:29:32
Alisson is worth his weight in gold to any top club with an upward trajectory and would represent the most important signing for us for the last several seasons. ( Yes even more than Mo and of course we all love him but we will be lucky to get 2 seasons out of the lad with everyone sniffing round, especially if the rumours about him asking his agent to circulate his interest to a certain Spanish side ) . If Dave goes to Spain we would have the best keeper in the Leqgue no question. We should just pay the 70 mil and be done with it, worthwhile investment on all fronts.

21 Feb 2018 19:25:20
If we are going to spend 70m on Alisson better to spend it on Oblak he is younger and has more experience.

21 Feb 2018 20:09:46
I don't get people giving it thumbs down above with me pointing out to the OP its Navas not Neves? Lol argh well. Allison would be a great improvement for us but its not him we are looking at guys. Its KN.

{Ed002's Note - You mean Alisson?}

21 Feb 2018 21:57:24
@Ed002

LLO.

21 Feb 2018 22:52:38
I’m don’t think Navas is anywhere as bad as some people are making out on here.

21 Feb 2018 23:41:48
Westwood, he really is as bad as that, he’s concedes too many soft goals and makes too many unforced errors. Navas would struggle as badly as Bravo has at Man City, sorry but Navas simply isn’t a top class keeper. I could list loads of performances where he has cost Madrid the game or where a goal has been directly his fault. If we sign him, get used to seeing him picking the ball out of the net. That’s all he’s actually any good at.

21 Feb 2018 23:38:37
Personally hope we don’t sign Navas. He has been awful the last couple of years, look at unforced the errors he makes that lead directly to goals, Las Palmas two massive errors, one where he ducks under the shot because he’s not tall enough and is in a poor position the other he comes steaming out of his box with no hope of getting the ball and leaves the Las Palmas player with an open goal, Betis he literally fumbled the ball over the line from a fairly innocuous shot, Napoli he was in such a poor starting position that Insigne was able to pass the ball into the net from almost 45-50 yards, Sociedad messes around with the ball in his own area, gets tackled and the ball ends up in the net, Dortmund, struggles with a pretty easy free kick that was straight at him and pushed it straight to Aubemayang who had the most simple of finishes, last week against PSG he let in a very soft goal, Rabiots shot was not even above head height and almost right at him, yet somehow it goes in?!? These are just a very small sample of the kind of horror shows that he puts on a weekly basis! It’s no wonder they want rid of him.

I’d rather we didn’t buy a keeper if that’s the best we can do, he is as bad as Claudio Bravo in my honest opinion, as he’s weak on crosses, is far too easily beaten and he he throws himself around to look flashy. If you think we let in soft goals now, you’ve seen nothing yet.

21 Feb 2018 23:47:56
Allison is of interest to many club including Real and Roma would hold out for a record fee for the player. I can’t see Klopp sanctioning big money on a keeper. Our big signings would be in the midfiled and upfront like it has always been except VVD. I ll put my money on Ed02’s information.

22 Feb 2018 00:20:19
Westwood, he’s a very ordinary keeper who makes some really dodgy howlers that Mignolet would be crucified over. He’s not anywhere near better than any keeper on our books already, maybe with the exception of Bogdan but even that’s a close run thing. He had one decent World Cup and one good season for Madrid and that’s it. His shots faced to goals conceded is really poor. Karius is a far better keeper. By a country mile.

22 Feb 2018 08:08:06
Won't slate him if we sign him but if we do i won't have high hopes. Watched him play this season and he is not the vast improvement we need in goal. For the life of me i don't understand Klopps so called insistence in wanting him over other keepers who may be avaliable this summer. I get he is a cheaper option but I'd much rather us spend 70 million to have someone in goal who may not have 50 clean sheets a season but when called upon you know he is able to not fluff up. Navas is not that keeper.

21 Feb 2018 13:26:19
Good afternoon redmen,

I hope all is well and that you all have your Seville shirts on ready for tonights game.

Sorry its a bit late in the week but here's the loan update.

Anderson Arroyo made a second successive start and completed his first full game for Real Mallorca B in a 1-1 draw against Santanyi.

Markovic was not in the matchday squad as Anderlecht lost 1-0 to St Truiden.

Wilson played for Hull against Chelsea at the weekend in the fa cup.
Wilson was lively and won a penalty before getting subbed off injured just after half time. Hull went on to lose 4-0.
Wilson was not in the squad last night as Hull lost 3-1 to Boro in the league.

Jon Flannaghan was left out of the bolton matchday squad.

Ejaria picked up an injury which ruled him out of Sunderlands game away to Bolton. Bolton won the game 1-0

Sturridge missed out through injury as West Brom lost to Southampton in the FA Cup.

Awoniyi picked up another assist (his 6th of the season) as REM battled hard and scored late in a 2-2 draw with Waasland.
Awoniyi also has 7 goals this season with this being his most productive on loan so far.

Allan did not feature as Apollon won 5-1 at the weekend, keeping the pressure up in the title race.

Origi played the full 90 as Wolfsburg hosted the Budesliga juggernaut Bayern Munich.
Wolfsburg took the lead but could not hold on eventually losing 2-1 due to a 91st minute penalty.

Chirivella played the full 90 as Willem lost 2-1 to ADO.
Willem still sit just above the drop zone.

Randall was an unused sub as Hearts drew 1-1 with Ross County.

Ojo was not in the squad as Fulham beat Villa 2-0.

Keita played for an hour and had a poor showing as RBL lost to Frankfurt.

Corey Whelan played at RB as Yeovil lost 4-1 to Stevenage. A poor result but Corey appears to of taken well to life at Yeovil so far.

Virtue had a 3 minute run out for Notts county as they lost 1-0 to Cambridge.

Bristol City, the Liverpool of the Championship.
Last week they were 3-0 up to Sunderland before throwing it away, this week it was Leeds turn.
Finding themselves 2-0 up after 16 minutes Bristol would fall apart with 20 minutes left and eventually draw 2-2.
Kent played the full 90.

Grujic has been playing in the holding role for Cardiff and reports are he has been impressive. The lad certainly has the size to dominate in there.
Cardiff hosted Boro at the weekend and won the game 1-0.
Cardiff now find themselves in the automatic promotion places.

And that is your lot Redmen.

21 Feb 2018 13:37:00
cheers carra mate.

21 Feb 2018 13:46:51
superb stuff carra mate, maybe to save time you could tell us when sturridge is fit! im that used to him being injured its not news anymore.

21 Feb 2018 17:13:48
When did Markovic move to Anderlecht?

21 Feb 2018 17:54:23
Chelsea fan but Wilson was impressive against us, only player who wasn't star struck. Hull needed to pass to him more.

21 Feb 2018 23:38:35
Seems a lot of lads aren't getting much time :/.

22 Feb 2018 17:49:43
Cheers RJ28P.

21 Feb 2018 07:15:43
Been busy for a few days so haven't checked site much. Did a quick search for Wanyama after seeing some links, but can't find anything from Ed001 and 002 specifically ruling out any interest. Please tell me the links are crap.

{Ed001's Note - I do not know of any interest in him from us at all. No idea where the links come from, but it sounds like manufactured crap because he once played for Southampton.}

21 Feb 2018 07:28:44
I would be extremely happy if we could bring him in. He will do a great job covering the back 4.None of the players we have right now is a defencive midfielder and from what i 've heard and read mostly neither is Keita (I 've seen very little of him to form an oppinion) . In any case it is a position that needs strengthening in the summer.

{Ed001's Note - but he is awful at the role, he is constantly caught out of position and it terrible on the ball. He is just a big, powerful lump with none of the mental attributes required to be a top level player. You need more than pace and power to be good at the role of defensive midfielder, positioning is the most important part of the job and he has not got a clue about it.}

21 Feb 2018 07:54:47
Who would be your preference Ed001 for defencive midfielder? I remember the Southampton Wanyama who was really dominant. Has he declined that much?

{Ed001's Note - he was crap there too, I don't know what you are remembering at all. He uses pace and power to make up for his own mistakes but it does not always work. He is just an average player who has risen too high for his limited talents. Southampton and Spurs have an extra body alongside him to provide cover for those lapses in concentration he has numerous times a game, so they can get away with him being asleep, we don't.

I do wonder why I bother answering questions like this as I have said already on a number of threads who my preferences are. Is there much point me constantly repeating them only to get asked the same question the following day?}

21 Feb 2018 08:32:19
Ndidi!

stevie started the rumours about wanyama. and actually it's quite funny when you think about it. A+ for idnteifying we need to solidfy the midfield and then he gets an F for saying we need to bring in a big powerful midfielder like wanyama to do that.

21 Feb 2018 10:30:24
Very worrying for Gerrard's credentials as a future first team manager 🤔

Ed001 didn't actually say Ndidi by the way. For years he wanted Gary Medel and more recently he has suggested Nampalys Mendy as his preferred choice. He's playing well in Nice to be fair.

Ndidi is a player he's said he likes though, along with Obiang and Doucoure. It wasn't his suggestion though.

I still think Demirbay might be the "powerhouse" midfield signing though. He seems to be regarded as an attacking player by most on here, but he is actually very similar to Doucoure. He is fast and powerful which does allow him to break forward from deep to score and create goals, but he actually averages 2 tackles a game for Hoffenheim which is comparable to an out and out holding midfielder. He's over 6 foot, very aggressive, and can play the holding role, box to box, or the No.10.

He's very versatile, and brings much needed steel to the midfield. Most importantly, he is a player we are actually interested in though. Don't forget Keita too who is also very aggressive and contributes a lot defensively. Not many teams would want to face a trio of Keita, Henderson and Demirbay! That is a lot of pace and power, combined with high quality on the ball. Wanyama unfortunately lacks the quality side of things!

21 Feb 2018 11:20:34
For all wanyamas bad points.

Having someone 6ft, strong, uninterested in wandering up field and will just plonk his was between the two cbs for me is just what we need. It will allow keita, Hendo and the 3 amigos to run riot whilst having someone help us keep our defensive shape.

Also if he is relatively cheap it could be a wise move for a few seasons, maybe focus the rest of our budget on cb and qingback needs.

21 Feb 2018 12:17:36
his bad points are the very reason to steer clear, as van morrrison would say keep mediocrity at bay.

21 Feb 2018 13:07:49
Unbelievable people thinking plonking Wanyama in front of defence will improve the midfield. This is not under 10’s football.

21 Feb 2018 13:31:12
Not good but still managed that screamer against us lol. I don't think he's that bad but he is not good enough for us, especially in a defensive position.

21 Feb 2018 13:32:53
I've watched Wanyama start twice recently, against Newport County and Rochdale and he was woeful in both games against quite terrible opposition.

There is a reason why Dembele (an excellent player) and Dier (a distinctly average player) are ahead of him in the Spurs team. He is poor. He runs around a lot and is quite strong, and every now and then he hits s thunderbolt of a shot which everyone go "ooooo".

I hope we steer well clear. (if we are even interested at all. which I doubt)