Liverpool Rumours Archive July 22 2018

 

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22 Jul 2018 22:40:21
ED001/ ED002

How are we lads, another few weeks to go until silly season is over, you looking forward to the end?

Question in reference to Burnley's Tarkowski, I know weeks back Macca mentioned Klopp really rates this bloke, has there been any news if he will stay with current club or potential interest elsewhere?

Thanks
Tommy T.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any plans for him to move this summer.}

23 Jul 2018 09:12:10
Alfie Mawson will be signing for Burnley this week. There have been no enquiries for Tarkowski yet though.

Cheers.

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22 Jul 2018 12:31:28
What is likely to happen with Meyer? Who has shown serious interest / opened talks with his agent (Asking here as he has been linked to Liverpool).

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22 Jul 2018 13:22:47
From what I've heard his wage demands are too high for most clubs to be interested.

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22 Jul 2018 14:42:16
was his wage demands £4m a year if so does not seems too high in this day and age. about £77k a week or is that just paper talk like that's why people don't want him.

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22 Jul 2018 15:07:24
Think it was double that last i read grino. 8million his demanding.

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22 Jul 2018 15:53:40
Never seen him play so no idea if he's any good or not but if he's a £30m player then getting him on a free with high wages doesn't seem too bad. If he's just a £3m player then it's a bad deal.

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{Ed002's Note - What do you men by "free"? Signing on fee, 5% of valuation to The FA, agent fees, payment to compensate Schalke, tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable, tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable, Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?), legal fees, VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable, moving/relocation costs for the player, VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable. And then there are his outrageous wage demands.}

22 Jul 2018 16:33:13
If these are the costs involved for a so called free transfer, then the amount Can must have cost to Juventus is beyond my imagination.

Let alone be for signing a player from certain club.

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{Ed002's Note - They don't have to pay all of these costs but ceratinly signing on fee, agent fee, legal fees relocation costs - but his wages are far lower than what is being asked by MM.}

22 Jul 2018 19:39:28
I still expect him to sign for a premier league club, but I'd think it'll be more along the lines of West Ham or Palace. I also think it happen late as he'll start to learn that he'll have to drop his wage demands if he wants anyone to sign him.

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22 Jul 2018 20:59:22
Do we see us going for him if he reduces his wage demands (in case nobody is ready to pay high wages)?

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{Ed002's Note - To replace?}

22 Jul 2018 21:09:58
Ed002 by 'free' I meant that we wouldn't be giving a club £30m or so just to buy him. I'm well aware of all the other stuff that accompanies a so called free transfer.

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{Ed002's Note - So who will be moved on to make room for him?}

22 Jul 2018 21:50:20
No idea Ed002, my only musing on the matter was whether he'd be a decent acquisition on a 'free' if you go back to my original comment.

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23 Jul 2018 07:33:59
No transfer fee say 20 million.

Maybe sell one day even for 12 mil will negate most of those costs.

So eventually be a free is what it should be called.

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23 Jul 2018 07:37:45
Why would a player be a good addition, if he's not replacing anyone in the squad? That's just stockpiling for the sake of it surely and will lead to more club debt and unhappy player/ s.

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23 Jul 2018 09:07:40
Love how hot under the collar ed2 gets when people talk about frees and transfer fees in general- Iv learned a lot from you though mate. I didn’t realise about all the hidden costs of every transfer. Even been passing on the knowledge to one of my mates who saw an article and based purely on official transfer spend and all income it reckoned we had another 200mil after Allison to spend on transfers. I informed him it was utter bullsh*t but some people actually believe that shit! Dread to think what we’ve spent on agent fees alone this summer- never thought I’d type these words but I agree with Gary Neville (sorry- give me a second) agent fees should be limited and the FA should impose a tax on them as a way of getting money back into game from these thieves!

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{Ed002's Note - Last season Liverpool paid £27M in agent fees.}

23 Jul 2018 12:24:41
Sport agent to established players must genuinely be the best job in the world.

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23 Jul 2018 14:21:02
Meyer is not good enough for us anymore. He would not get in ahead of Fab, Naby and Hendo anyway and for a squad player, we already have Gini, Milner and Lallana.

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23 Jul 2018 23:53:52
He wants 8mil a year apparently that’s just silly money if he was that good Madrid, Barca, PSG etc would have snapped him up.

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24 Jul 2018 08:44:08
Kloppsboss, how do you work that one out? You say he might cost 20 mil, then sell him at a later date for 12 and it negate most of the costs so he really becomes free?

I mean you’re already 8mil down that way and the fact even after 1 year, you'll be another 8mil down with his wage demands xD

The word "free" is made up to give people false hope. Nothing is ever free in life! (Unless you steal it and never get caught xD)

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22 Jul 2018 12:01:34
I have just spoken with somebody who's informed me that Lucas Vasquez of Real Madrid will be signing a deal with New Balance in the coming weeks and will be staying with Real Madrid.

I had seen people speaking on the site with regards to us holding interest, which I believe until recently was true however for this window he will remain a Real Nadir's player.

I have also been told that after signing Mane to a deal earlier this year Mane, his agent and New Balance representatives will be meeting in New York this weekend to discuss the outlines of Mane having his own New Balance in-game football silhouette which would be available as a public release.

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22 Jul 2018 12:09:27
Real Nadir, well done Tom.

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22 Jul 2018 21:20:38
I couldn’t see the point of signing Vazquez he’s a very ordinary footballer and not one iota better than anyone already at the club. Bench warmer at Madrid is where he should be.

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22 Jul 2018 09:52:53
Any truth to the Vida stories, officials supposedly flying out next week conclude the deal. I think it would be a good signing. I'm thinking it's bollo*ks as we need ship a few out instead of increasing the squad.
Still hoping for Fekir but I can't see it happening 😢.

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{Ed002's Note - Everyone keeps telling me that Klopp says business is over so we will see. Interestingly Besiktas had a couple of people in London at the start of the week - perhaps Liverpool should have taken the opportunity to talk to them then. There has been a reasonable amount of interest in Vida from clubs but the €35M asking price is putting people off. There have been three firm offers to the club and one to his agent apparently (this was correct as of the start of the week. Everton and Leicester certainly made offers to the club, and West Ham to his agent. That leaves one offer and potential interest from the likes of Liverpool & Watford who made a very low offer (before the World Cup) and certain interest from Sevilla. Barcelona looked but were unimpressed and at his age were only looking for cheap cover; Atletico Madrid also seem to be edging away from early interest. Did not have a standout season last year, is probably significantly over priced and would be a knee jerk reaction following the World Cup. Makes zero sense.}

22 Jul 2018 11:36:00
It makes no sense at all at £35m unless we were going to start playing 3 at the back, which I doubt we'd do after spending so much on midfielders.

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22 Jul 2018 11:31:29
ED002, I presume that’s the same Hunter Thompson who wrote the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas which eventually became a film with Jonny Depp in it?

I don’t know too much about him apart from reading the book and watchung the film, but he certainly seems to know how to breakfast, crikey.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, the same HST.}

22 Jul 2018 11:41:22
People still going on about what klopp said to media about transfer do people not know he’s playing with the media he said the other wk ward would be number 1 this season look what happened with that. We obviously still want an attacking midfielder and maybe a back up keeper depending on who leaves.

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{Ed002's Note - You think it is good for Klopp to screw his players around with all of this number one, number two nonsense?}

22 Jul 2018 11:50:58
Probably not mate but it was obvious we was looking at keepers but people to quick to believe what comes out of James Pearce mouth he’s got nothing rite this summer.

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22 Jul 2018 11:59:35
ED002

I’ve just realised I replied you your earlier post in regards to HST on a completely different post. the trail looks a bit odd

My bad, apologies.

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22 Jul 2018 12:01:49
Question about Gomez, with TAA making that slot his own and Clyne now being fit and most likely 2nd choice at RB would Gomez now be first choice back up for one of the central defensive role ahead of Matip and klavan? If so vida wouldn't be needed in my eyes and makes no sense . Or is it thought within the club he's not ready yet?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't see Gomez as a first choice back up for any position to be honest.}

22 Jul 2018 12:55:45
Ed002 no possibility of a loan for Gomez?

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer "no possibility of" questions. He will have an opportunity in pre-season.}

22 Jul 2018 12:59:00
You don't rate him then ed002. still think he's very raw for me still lot of potential next to the right partner (VVD) hopefully that potential will be fulfilled.

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with my rating him. He is no youngster, has had an OK season but a good WC apparently - I see him as an over-priced knee jerk reaction if Klopp wants him. Would it also be a kick in the gonads for Gomez?}

22 Jul 2018 13:01:21
Does that mean you see him competing for a starting position ED002? Like as in him, Matip, and Lovren fighting to start along side VVD or did you mean he's not even in contention for the bench?

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{Ed002's Note - You have named four CBs there who would be ahead of him - so two on the pitch and two on the bench - where does that leave Gomez? And if you add Vida if Klipperty has the Klopps for him?}

22 Jul 2018 14:25:30
I don’t see the point in Vida, if we are going to buy now, it should be to battle for a starting position, not as cover - we have cover in Matip and Klavan. Most of all, Gomez can be a good long term partner for vvd, so let’s give him so experience, and I’d rather him get say 20 appearances for us, learn our ways, train with our squad than play a whole season for championship or lower premier league team.

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22 Jul 2018 13:47:33
Where do you see Gomez predominantly playing this coming season, Rotating RB or CB?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't really see teams "rotating" players. I don't see Gomez playing too much unless there are injuries.}

22 Jul 2018 14:40:41
Why is it if a journo says Klopp said something, ie such a person is to be no.1, it's taken as gospel, and used as a stick to beat him, but yet if a journo says were interested in a player we're told not to believe anything they say as it's mostly guesswork, the truth is no one here works for lfc and has any idea what Klopp told any players.

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22 Jul 2018 15:24:48
Totally agree ed002 it would be a massive blow to Gomez if he was to sign vida. I thought I recalled he (Gomez) was highly thought of and I agree he's not a youngster anymore I wasn't meaning that when I said potential more as he's never had a run of games in his natural position CB but has had to cover and fight for that what was once vacant RB slot. I think he would do well next to VVD given the chance and a run of games. Lovren game pick up significantly when VVD came in and also think it could have same impact on Gomez at CB. don't see the point in paying that sort of money for let's be honest another average at best defender in vida when you have someone already in squad in Gomez Matip klavan who can play there.

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22 Jul 2018 17:46:15
I would want Klopp to sell Matip and have VVD, Lovren, Klavan and Gomez as our 4 CBs. I still think Gomez if given time would become a very good CB and would be long term solution. I really hope we're not in for Vida for all reason stated above by ed002.

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22 Jul 2018 19:17:46
If Klipperty has the klopps for him. 😂😂😂 spat my beer everywhere. Ed2 = legend! Take a bow son!

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22 Jul 2018 19:24:10
I like Gomez but feel he would be better off going on loan for a season. I think our ins are done for the summer. Gomez needs week in and out to progress further.

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22 Jul 2018 19:54:02
Gomes won’t play really unless they’re are injuries.

In my view that is how it should be predominately. He will be good cover for the senior players.

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22 Jul 2018 21:02:50
A just gone 21 year old centre back who spent over a year out injured and would have started for his country in the World Cup but for injury! of course he's a youngster. and a youngster of massive potential.

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23 Jul 2018 09:44:10
Well there ya go, y'all asked and Matip provides.
Thank dog we've got Gomez! ;)

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23 Jul 2018 14:23:22
Spot on, Ed02. I am not impressed with him either esp. with the fact that Lovren is the better CB and he would not partner Lovs over VVD either as VVD is clearly light years away from him as well. Makes ZERO sense to me as well.

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22 Jul 2018 09:02:40
Hi guys, I know your sick to death of Fekir rumours but I have a good friend who works at Ormskirk hospital and has a good contact within the club. Every now and then he gets a piece of info that is always right. Told me last night that that we are still very interested in Fekir but we have to get rid of some off the books first. The club still hoping to offload Sturridge, ings, Origi, Migs, Karius, and loan out a lot more of the youngsters. Just passing on what he told me.
Cheers.

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22 Jul 2018 09:13:59
Does he get his info from here? Because that’s pretty much what’s been said already.

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22 Jul 2018 09:43:08
Most journo's (not talking about clickbait interns) would say the same info from a couple of different sources would make it newsworthy and seeing as the ed's have to get their info from somewhere, it does make sense.

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22 Jul 2018 10:06:05
Love rumours with a convoluted backstory.

Keep them coming Sikaboy 👍.

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22 Jul 2018 12:08:59
My mam works in broadgreen ozzy. She was talking to a surgeon. He'd been talking to the porter who knows a fella who works in Speke airport. Think he's a pilot. well. He was talking to a baggage handler who had been reading the echo. He says fekir is 50/ 50.?

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22 Jul 2018 12:21:48
Everybody keeps including Migs and Karius in the players to offload list, why? We wouldn’t have anybody but a couple of kids as backup to Alisson since Ward and Bogdan are gone (transfer and loan)

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22 Jul 2018 12:58:07
Mignolet definitely leaving and fir Karius better a loan but only if we get a backup keeper.

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22 Jul 2018 14:49:04
Makes no sense to be honest. Sell mingolet and karius? What then happens if alisson gets injured? Throw shaqiri in nets?

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22 Jul 2018 19:25:34
Keep Karius, sell Migs.

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