Liverpool Rumours Archive June 24 2021

 

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24 Jun 2021 14:59:19
Sky Sports Germany reporting Edwards has opened talks with Malen, perhaps this one has accelerated the eds have been saying there was interest for a while. Just a midfielder left after this one if true.

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24 Jun 2021 15:12:07
If you got this via the Echo, apparently they mistranslated it.

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24 Jun 2021 15:33:15
I didn't as per the post its via Sky Sports Germany.

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24 Jun 2021 15:48:44
After that a straight swap between Salah and Mbappe and we are all set for 5+ years .

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24 Jun 2021 15:52:12
Yes but the Echo have a section where they get rumours from various different sources and today they took something from Sky Sports Germany re Malen which they mistranslated so was just saying it you got the story via that way.

Apparently he's close to a move to Dortmund regardless.

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24 Jun 2021 17:40:54
Lol a straight swap for mbappe? Really? šŸ˜‚.

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24 Jun 2021 17:58:50
Mbappe has a year left, Salah two. Salah is arguably the more proven of the two considering he has played in 2 leagues that are better than the French league and done really well in both. Salah is at the prime age and clearly wants a big move . so why not?
And if Malen is going to BD and B rod is buying Daka, who is our top target for the forward line?

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24 Jun 2021 18:36:10
Mbappe is never going to play for us. Ever. The same as Haaland, the same as Werner, the same as Havertz, the same as Sancho. I just hope we donā€™t bother going for the likes of Traore or Sarr.

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24 Jun 2021 19:02:34
I agree. AT THE MOMENT, a transfer fee of each wouldn't be much in the difference.

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24 Jun 2021 20:59:16
VVVV you are spot on! Not in a million years.

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24 Jun 2021 21:36:24
No rufus still via Sky Sports Germany.

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24 Jun 2021 22:23:28
Did you ever think Alisson would play here? Or Thiago? We are one of only a few teams in the world that can draw that kind of talent outside of their home countries. It takes an awful lot of money, sure, but anything is possible. Mbappe playing for Liverpool does not sound that crazy compared to the stuff we have all lived through the last two years!

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24 Jun 2021 23:40:02
It does when you consider the wages he would be on. Does anyone acty believe we will pay a player over 600k a week. It would ruin the club.

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25 Jun 2021 07:26:06
Its crazy though that even over a four year contract between fees and wages Kane will probably end up just as if not more expensive. I know who i'd rather have.

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25 Jun 2021 07:38:49
Theres also the argument that signing Mbappe this summer would be a great business decision! What you'd sign him for this summer with just 12 months left on his contract would be dwarfed by what we would sell him for in a few years to madrid. Its long term planning i suppose but its a 100% certainty.

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25 Jun 2021 08:07:31
Jadon, that's also the type of thinking that landed the club into debt in the first place. We aren't talking Ā£50m spent to make a profit, over the course of his contract, you are talking hundreds of millions. Then there is the small matter of completely destabilising the team because the likes of Salah will see Mbappe on 600k and wonder why he isn't on that as well. Then what happens if it all goes to his head and he flops and we can't sell him, or he gets a career ending injury? Or will you step in at this point and foot the bill? People need to come back to earth.

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25 Jun 2021 08:15:41
I get the ā€˜speculate to accumulate argumentā€™ Jadon, but I just donā€™t see it happening.

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25 Jun 2021 08:34:40
It's become de rigeur on here to say certain players/ class of player will never sign for us but I think Mbappe is not so far fetched. We got Ali, we got Thiago, we got Bobby back when no one thought we could. Virgil, although perhaps he's reached worldie status whilst with us.

Mbappe's clearly a fan of Klopp, I think there's some desire there to play for him. Why not on Merseyside? Thiago chose to come. He could reach that next level of his game. Virgil did.

Finances. All sorts of theories going about. Different time, different circumstances but Adidas were going to somehow play a part in Messi to Chelsea so it's not inconceivable. But okay, let's discount even that.

If he signs this 750k/ week extension then he will never come here, no. But if he were to leave on a free, then I don't see how it's not possible to negotiate directly with the player. Spread the cost of signing on fee, perhaps instead of spreading the cost of a transfer the wage becomes more tenable. It could cause dissent in the ranks with other players being unhappy at the disparity, but this is life in football. How many players at PSG would be on ā‚¬750k/ week? If Messi had gone to Chelsea or City, it would have been the same situation. I don't see it as the obstacle that some might present.

I'm not saying how likely I think Mbappe joining us is, but I think it's not impossible.

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25 Jun 2021 08:40:28
Calm yiurself stuiešŸ˜†. im right though. And the "hundreds of millions"is a bit hyperbole. we'd probably cover his fee and his wages with what he'd instantly be worth once signed up long term. Fair enough your argument about Salah and co, but that's just the way it goes. Mbappe will be the best and most marketable player on the planet soon, im sure plenty of potential sponsors would be drawn to him being at the club. Look i know its unlikely, but if he is interested in a move here this is literally the only chance we'd ever have to sign the biggest face in football for the next few year.

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25 Jun 2021 08:56:06
Robboz, I agree. If he signs the extension then no way. Otherwise I could see him with us for 3-5 years before moving to Madrid.

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25 Jun 2021 11:03:53
Unfortunately Jadon, you can't just say 'but I'm right', not how it tends to work. Don't get me wrong, I would love Mbappe to sign but we have to be realistic. All this elayers listed, Thiago, Ali etc where nowhere near the Mbappe level when we signed and never will be. If Madrid or PSG sign anyone of out players bar Salah, they would never command over 500k a week. And the hundreds of millions is not far off, transfer fee 100m plus, wages 600k a week plus, bonuses added on top, spread over a 5 year deal. It would be financial suicide for the club to buy a player for that much money in the hope that Madrid will buy him for a profit. Say it out loud, it sounds even more ludicrous.

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25 Jun 2021 12:13:27
It does if im rightšŸ˜†. How much a week do you think Harry Kane is going to be on at City stuie! Wont be a penny under 400k per week and that's the minimum.

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25 Jun 2021 12:33:08
600k a week for one player would 100% ruin the club. That's 30M a year on top of the initial costs. Then everyone else in the squad wanting pay increases to keep the harmony. who knows how much that would cost.

Absolutely a non runner.

Who cares if City were to pay Kane 400k a week as well, you have just made that up and it's irrelevant in the discussion, you need to think about the Liverpool squads wages not how much Kane would cost in comparison.

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25 Jun 2021 13:27:48
My point is that City aren't going to have the rest of the squad in looking for rises because Kane comes in on probably more than double than they're on. Just like the players at Barcelona accept Messi's and Real's used to have to accept Ronaldo's. Fair enough it'd be Ā£30m odd a year but think of what he would be worth to the club financially, he will be THE biggest name in the biggest sport on the planet in a year or two. If we want to be at the very top table, long term, and there was ANY chance of getting this deal done we should be all over it.

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25 Jun 2021 13:51:08
I hope you don't work in a bank Jadon haha! Firstly, City can afford Ā£400k a week, we couldn't, that is the big difference, plus, you then have to account FFP, how would we get through that? Where's Ed002 when you need him/ her.

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25 Jun 2021 13:57:41
How do City get through it? . last time i checked our revenue was on a par with theirs.

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{Ed002's Note - It is pointless explaining.}

25 Jun 2021 18:46:54
This rumours site is turning into a delusional site with all this Mbappe nonsense. Bissouma and Malen will do for me. With them on board we'll take it to both Man City and PSG.

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25 Jun 2021 18:57:37
Signing the likes of Mbappe, Haaland and Sancho does seem like a dream but to be honest, I never expected that we'd spend a world record fee to sign VVD and Alisson a few years back. I understand the stumbling block is the wages for these players and not because these players doesn't want to join us. Although its unlikely to happen, we've read rumors that Klopp did keep in touch with Mbappe and his family. If those rumors are legit, then there might be some possibility that a transfer might happen. otherwise why would Klopp bother to spend time on something that he will never get?

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25 Jun 2021 19:29:55
@Jadon, Just to take in to account as well as that Ā£30M a year of wages for Mbappe you would have another Ā£100M a year of extra wages to keep others happy.

Maybe Salah would not expect to be on Ā£600K a week to match Mbappe but he would want to double his Ā£200K (or whatever he is on) to be a lot closer. That's an extra Ā£10M a year for him. Mane would want an increase, VvD, Fabinho, Alisson, basically most or all of the team. Not +Ā£10M each but it would all add up.

From a quick Google of Barcelona salaries as you are making out that others are happy to play for relatively ok salaries even though Messi's got an enormous salary. From salary sport: Griezmann Ā£594k, Coutinho Ā£406k, and 4 others higher than Ā£200k per week being Busquets, Jordi Alba, Umtiti and Dembele. Braithwaite is even on Ā£85k, I know signed in an emergency but still it shows the knock on impact throughout the squad.

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25 Jun 2021 20:47:54
Ah just dare to dream will yis. baa hum-bug accountants everywhere! As one poster said Virgil"had the choice of the top 6 clubs and would never consider us" and"not a hope in hell these owners would pay over Ā£60m for a goalkeeper"i know more than likely we'll end up with the normal rough diamond that Jurgen can polish but until he goes to Madrid i say its not impossible he ends up here.

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25 Jun 2021 20:59:38
Apologies Jadon, didn't mean to spoil your dreams šŸ¤£.

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26 Jun 2021 00:51:38
No Sean. its not Blackpool or Lincoln we support. Its Lfc one of the biggest in the world in all kinds of ways yet most fans want to hide behind and feel comfortable with the net spend and"he'll never sign for us"argument as a ready made excuse to jystify when we fail. Have we not a manager in the top 2 or 3 in the world?, have we not a 1st eleven in the top 2 or 3 in d world? Why then would a top player not want to come here and improve himself?

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26 Jun 2021 02:03:17
Klopp himself came out in the past and said for LFC this transfer would be impossible due to the finances. Need to come to the reality that we will not be signing mbappe, or maybe even malen or bissouma. But that's fine, in a few years we will have the polish messi to rip some teams a new one. šŸ˜†.

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{Ed0666's Note - thereā€™s more chance of Hancock snogging Pep Kloppo in front of a packed Anfield on the first home game of the season than there is Mbappe signing for Liverpool.

26 Jun 2021 10:02:24
@Jadon, it would financially ruin the club. I've explained why/ how already but you can't seem to grasp it.

Never for a second have I ever thought Mbappe would not want to play for us or for Klopp but his wages are so high it's not even slightly realistic.

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26 Jun 2021 10:14:26
I grasp it Sean, thanks for explaining it to me. Your right we will never ever ever sign a top player. Thank God we have the Polish Messi, Gordon, Elliott and Nat Phillips there to build our next great team around.

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26 Jun 2021 17:21:47
Fact is that we donā€™t have owners who are capable or interested in bringing in the likes of Mbaple or Haaland. Iā€™d hope at least they consider players at the next level down, like Isak for example.

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26 Jun 2021 18:05:00
Wow Jaden is like a young Harry from about 10 years ago.

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26 Jun 2021 19:21:14
No, Jaden was just very bored lastnite PicklešŸ˜‰.

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24 Jun 2021 12:30:14
Afternoon Eds,
I saw in a rumour that you said Bissouma is our first choice Gini replacement, would Brighton and the player be aware of this as nothing much seems to be happening? I know other clubs are interested, just wondering if its a case of, we have told him we want him and the player knows he is coming or are we playing a dangerous game of hoping no one goes in for him and we get him on deadline day cheap? Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - The player will be aware as Liverpool have spoken with his agent. I don't think they have approached Brighton yet but they will be aware. Arsenal are keen.}

24 Jun 2021 13:26:55
Ed002 - With our finances being tight, are Arsenal in a position to strike early should they decide to go for the player?

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{Ed002's Note - Arsenal are in a position where the money will be available for transfers but like all clubs the books need to be balanced through income and sales.}

24 Jun 2021 13:37:34
Fair enoughā€¦Thanksā€¦. be interesting to see which club would be the players preference.

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24 Jun 2021 14:14:17
He's an Arsenal fan Drogie and has been since a child.

I feel he'd choose them over us for that alone.

That being said I think (other than location) Liverpool is a much more attractive destination.

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24 Jun 2021 14:39:25
Hi Eds. Have you ever heard that liverpool also approaching Otavio (Fc Porto) and Donyell Malen (PSV)? Appreciate for your thoughts and Have a great day.

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{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}

24 Jun 2021 14:25:29
Monkeymad, if he decides that arsenal are his choice looking at the two clubs then youā€™d have to question his decision makingšŸ‘.

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24 Jun 2021 16:15:27
Arsenal or Liverpool? Depends if he wants to stand a chance of winning trophies any time soon.

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24 Jun 2021 16:39:19
Cheers.

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24 Jun 2021 18:01:22
Ed's are saying Biss is the number one target, ahead of FN, who, if we had really wanted, would have surely been bid for before the expiry of the 35m release clause. but Biss wants to follow his heart as he is a gooner. fair play to him for being true to his colours, no one can deny a sports player their dream club if that's what they want. but if this is the case, who TF are we going to buy? Is it going to be another left field, off radar swoop a la Fab?

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25 Jun 2021 10:34:10
Equally though, he can be persuaded that childhood dreams of playing for Arsenal donā€™t put medals on the table anymore and he playing for Klopp in a champions league team will get him success.

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25 Jun 2021 11:07:39
I donā€™t get where arsenal are getting this money from? They had to rely on future payments to pay for Pepe and they wonā€™t be getting in the champions league for at least the next five years so where is the money coming from? Then after the supposed lending from future income they spent 50 mil on partey and 30 on Gabriel and had net spending of 65 million last summer? . They are buying white for 50 mil and then will buy at least a cente mid for 40? I donā€™t get where they suddenly have all this money after two years ago they lent on ā€œfuture incomeā€ to buy Pepe when surely none of that income came in as they have been mid table ever since.

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