Liverpool Rumours Archive May 24 2014

24 May 2014 15:04:03
Ed002, you stated that we've been looking at (presumably Benfica's) Cancelo. I know we hold an interest in Rojo, Bertrand and Erkin for LB, but have we been looking at any other right backs? Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Cancelo would not be first team material yet - this is one for the future.}

Cheers Ed, and have we been looking at any other potential RBs?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware and certainly not a priority.}

Thanks

24 May 2014 08:47:53
Morning eds. You guys are doing a great job. I read this morning that Emre Can's buyout clause can't be activated until 2015 and the club lawyers have said we can sign him now without interference from Bayern Munich. Do you know if this is correct? Thanks in advance for your reply.

{Ed002's Note - That is not what Bayern Munich say to be that case. I am also sure that there would be major trouble coming for Liverpool if the club has somehow obtained copies of the player and inter-club contracts and provided them to a third party. I can guarantee that would be an immediate referral to UEFA and, possibly, the German police.}

So how did Arsenal get wind of the now infamous £40m and a pound thing last Summer?

{Ed002's Note - Suarez's representatives told them. Suarez wanted to leave, remember? He did not want to go to Arsenal but would have done to get out of Liverpool.}

Maybe My Hypia has an influence in such a decision. You never know.

So could Can's agent not assist, shall we say, if his client was interested in a move to Liverpool?

{Ed002's Note - Obviously if he has provided these confidential documents to Liverpool and then Liverpool have provided them to their lawyers then both Liverpool and the agent will be in all sorts of problems. I would be truly astonished if any of this were the case.}

Tony Barrett of The Times newspaper tweeted last night that "Liverpool have made a breakthrough in their pursuit of Emre Can & appear to be closing in on a £12m deal for the Germany U-21 international"

Who knows what is really going on!

{Ed002's Note - There is no way TB would endorse anything illegal as is being suggested by whatever the poster has read - I would be interested in knowing what that is.}

Of course ed, we all know that footballer's agents / representatives would never dream of doing anything other than acting in the best interests of their client.

{Ed002's Note - I cannot think of one that would pass on copies of the contracts between two other clubs and between a club and a player. They would no doubt lose their license and would be subject to prosecution.}

Ed would we have to ask bayern to let a deal go though or do they not won't to give up the right to buy him back thanks

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool does not have a contract with Bayern, so that would be the responsibility of Bayer Leverkusen.}

24 May 2014 10:45:59
I would think the agent would have probably let it slip to Liverpool. So he would be in trouble and not Liverpool. I would think!

YNWA

{Ed002's Note - You cannot let slip confidential documents as Adrianp reports that Liverpool's lawyers have been examining them. If that is the case, Liverpool are in very serious trouble indeed. I cannot imagine it is true.}

Out of curiosity, when Suarez's agent divulged the details of his contract with LFC to Arsenal, did LFC do anything? Would it have been in LFC right to say complain?

{Ed002's Note - No, it would not be uncommon for that to happen. What is being suggested here is significantly different to that.}

So let me get this right, for us to sign, assuming we bid high enough we need Bayern to give the go ahead and waive the 2 year breakpoint in his current contract? Probably wanting some form of compensation for doing so?

Thanks Eds,

{Ed002's Note - The first sentence is correct.}

The daily mirror reporter must be very wrong. i'm sure the club will do everything by the book.

{Ed002's Note - A couple of other posters have said that the "rumour" about the lawyers and the club having access to the contracts comes from a website called Koptalk and not from the press.}

Yet again editors ................

{Ed002's Note - You haven't read what was written. Try not to be a glifnard.

Ed, please tell me if I'm being an person, and I don't know anymore than I've read in this post but could/would it be the case that Liverpool have made an enquiry about the player and both teams who have an interest have openly told Liverpool the terms and circumstances of the players contract?

{Ed002's Note - Bayer Leverkusen have made it clear that they are aware of interest from a couple of clubs but no offers have been made.}

24 May 2014 15:03:35
So, to clarify Ed002, is a player's contract confidential and only accessible to the player (& agent) and their club? In this case however Bayern Munich are involved also so they have access to the contract also? And therefore any other club or party with a copy of a player's contract is in breach of a particular law?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot see anyway that Liverpool has access to these contracts to allow the "lawyers" to review them. Perhaps someone should ask Koptalk where they have gotten this information from.?}

To be fair to the op, he doesn't actually state it's Liverpool's lawyers that have said this. could he not mean leverkusen's lawyers?

{Ed002's Note - It has been stated elsewhere and confirmed that it comes from a site called Koptalk.}

24 May 2014 07:25:06
Good morning Eds and Reds

Ive been reading that Tony Barrett from the times has reported that Lfc have made a breakthrough in the pursuit to sign Emre Can and a deal moves a step closer with Bayern not taking up there situation. I also read yesterday Ed saying we have interest but its very unlikely we will get him because of Bayern.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are interested in the player, as were Roma, but a move for Emre Can seems very unlikely given he only joined Leverkusen last summer on a four year deal that has a break point after two years when Bayern Munich can buy him back.

If Liverpool were to make an offer (which they haven't) and that offer was acceptable to Leverkusen they would need to contact Bayern Munich. If they are willing to release the player from the contractual agreement between the clubs then a deal will be possible.}

Thanks Ed

Surely an offer will be tabled at some point and Lfc must feel a deal can be done else why would we be wasting our time. Have Bayern comented yet on what they will want to do or not?

{Ed002's Note - Bayer Leverkusen have stated they are aware of interest and would sell for a good profit. They have also said there has been no offer and they would need to speak with Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich have said the matter needs to be referred to them.}

Thanks Ed

Seems complicated but very possible a deal can be done then. As long as we put the right offer in to Leverkusen.

As a matter of interest, without wanting to know the figures, is there a set price at which bayern can buy him back at?

So even if Liverpool were offering a better profit to Leverkusen, they still have to accept the figure agreed with bayern.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, there is a fixed price that Bayern Munich may buy the player for at the end of the 2014/15 season. That is the contract that is in place.}

24 May 2014 08:11:15
I think Can is close now, player is keen, although his clubs aren't but I think he will force a move.

I have less confidence in our other reported targets. The longer Lallana drags on the less likely it is we will get him.

Can't understand why we were prepared to pay a premium for konoplyanka in Jan but seem to have lost interest now when he is available (and apparently keen to join us) for significantly less.

Bertrand is not an improvement on Flanno.

Caulker isn't an improvement on our current centre backs.

Lovren would be a good buy but can see us being frozen out by Southampton slapping on an inflated price.

We also need a forward to interchange with SAS but Sanchez and Pedro will be way above our budget.

"Can't understand why we were prepared to pay a premium for konoplyanka in Jan but seem to have lost interest now when he is available (and apparently keen to join us) for significantly less."

Principle mate. None of us know what really happened.

If we sold Aspas and Borini to raise funds, and got in Pedro, I think it would be in everyone's interests. Pedro would get more playing time, and play a more significant role, than the current incumbents in my view.

Keep Borini, yes sell Aspas but keep Borini.

And I 100% agree Bertrand is not an improvement. City's first goal against villa was from zabaleta down the wing and he wasn't tracked - that was about the fourth time he had burst so far forward and Bertrand still wasn't watching him. Anyone saying the winger should have then I agree initially but when zabaleta kept pushing forward further than his own winger then it's up to Bertrand to take control and stop him. Also why wasn't Bertrand screaming for help with zabaleta, he clearly needed it.

Bertrand is so poor it`s hilarious.

24 May 2014 03:18:12
From the sources I have.

Bertrand And Rojo are the left back choices for next year Bertrand would love to cone Rojo deal is complicated.

Can deal advanced

Caulker and Lovern are been sounded out for the best deal both are open to a move to Liverpool only 1 will sign

Konoplyanka will enter a bidding war with Liverpool walking away

Tello is being offered to anyone who will listen a deal is unlikely

Pedro and Sanchez are pipe dreams never going to happen

Lallana is in the transfer committee hands so I don't hold out much hope there.

Keep you posted

From the sauces I have, I made spaghetti bolognaise.

24 May 2014 08:35:59
Thanks for keeping us posted, some groundbreaking stuff there.

The only thing complicated with Rojo is the asking price.

I don't think Caulker is an improvement on anyone we have. and its clear Johnson and Skrtel don't work well together on the right side of defence.