Liverpool Rumours Archive August 25 2017

 

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25 Aug 2017 17:52:26
Just seen on SSN that Chelsea and Liverpool are waiting to see if Arsenal would be willing to sell ox this transfer window. If he's available then 30 million is roughly the price needed to get him in. He's not happy at wing back and that's the role he'd likely play at Chelsea so he probably favours a move to us. It'll be a decent start to what will hopefully be a good few days in the transfer market.

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25 Aug 2017 20:10:03
Don't need him n he can't play in goal!

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25 Aug 2017 20:44:19
I really don't understand the clamour for Oxlade-Chamberlain.

He's not a bad player, but even in his wildest fantasies, he's not going to displace Mane and Salah from the wing positions, and we need a someone with a bit of guile who can pick a final ball in central midfield, and I don't see how the Ox is even as good as our existing options in that respect, much less better than them.

Are we that desperate for squad depth? Because even if Coutinho leaves and Lallana being out for nearly half the season, I don't see him being in our best XI. And I'd rather work with Grujic and Woodburn as squad players and develop them.

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25 Aug 2017 21:10:26
To be honest Gents it doesn't look like we are getting anyone else. Ox wouldn't be my first choice but he's a decent enough player. If he comes in what's the worst that can happen. Might as well get behind him and what will be will be.

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25 Aug 2017 21:31:34
What's the worst that can happen? Did you see what happened to Arsenal when they played him in centre midfield or how he got schooled by France's midfield? Frankly I don't want compromises and we've had enough panic buys and make do signings. He simply isn't good enough to improve our starting 11 and is not needed.

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25 Aug 2017 21:51:06
Mr Dennis the what will be will be is the fact that it doesn't matter what me or you say it's not going to effect whether Klopp signs him or not. If it happens then the least we owe the lad is our support and patience. Like I said he wouldn't be my first choice and in fairness he would be way down my list of choices but it doesn't look like we're signing anyone else. This window has been the most hyped for years but the disappointment and let down of previous windows is again all too familiar.

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25 Aug 2017 21:53:54
Jayden, if we're getting into the realm of buying "decent enough" players, then I'd rather we do it at center back where we urgently need improvement rather than signing a winger who can also play center mid.

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25 Aug 2017 21:59:18
We should b thinking defence defence defence.

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25 Aug 2017 22:04:34
Something red I'd love us to buy a centre back and a new keeper. Unfortunately it's Klopp and our transfer guys doing the business. Signing Ox to improve the squad whilst nailing all our other main targets would be great business. Ox on his own will be like a damp squib.

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25 Aug 2017 22:34:57
He would improve both our central midfield and wide attack strength in depth options considerably. There's still a chance he could develop into an outstanding player with the right coaching. For these reasons I feel he's worth a go.

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25 Aug 2017 23:14:49
He is an upgrade to Can and Milner for sure.

Dont understand another utility player again.

Cheers.

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25 Aug 2017 23:45:32
How is Oxlade an upgrade on Can? He's not a patch on Can in central midfield. Have any of you actually seen him play in central midfield? Because if you had you would say that he's awful, because he lacks any of the fundamentals skills to play there and doesn't have the mental discipline. I urge you to watch him being made to look like a non league footballer by Kante and Pogba when France played England.

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26 Aug 2017 00:26:53
How old is Ox? Why don't people think he can improve. Why does everyone slag off any player before they kick a ball for the club, let alone get a season it dare I say 2.

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26 Aug 2017 00:52:56
He lacks the skill or intelligence to be a top class footballer. Buying him is the same as every other mistake we've made in every other transfer window as far back as you care to go. Signing him is no different to Adam, Cole, Downing, Carroll, Balotelli, Markovic Etc as he's a very very average player who is over priced that we are going to throw a ridiculous bag of money at, whilst our best player packs his bags and goes to Barcelona. This is literally history repeating itself.

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26 Aug 2017 01:22:05
Where is Cover of calibre for mane or salah in the squad? nowhere. If klopp likes ox then I'm all for it. However, a defence in place that makes literally everybody nervous is a glaring discrepancy that needed to be addressed at the beginning of the window. Myself and my cousin are over from Limerick (Steve finnan country) for the weekend, to push through a deal for Kevin Doyle so we will be fine going forward for the season, but where's the deal for McShane deal we've all been crying out for?

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26 Aug 2017 02:15:30
Clamour. lovely word and so applicable to a transfer saga, especially an agents pre-deadline do when only the excitement of the 50/ 50 egg-mayo crust ridden sarnies and lemo topped jarg preseco champagne flutes, is the only fulfillmemt the leaches of all but freebie journalists can endure to ensure a feeble yet click-bait article to appease the vultures.

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26 Aug 2017 09:15:37
All of this ox talk wreaks of desperation, just to satisfy peoples need to see signings. Ox has been playing in the league for nearly a decade and has not improved one bit, i fail to see what will change with us. I would prefer to continue to develop woodburn, grugic and kent than waste money on someone who does not either improve the team or the squad significantly.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not desperation as Klopp likes him and the interest has been known for months. Hopeless.}

26 Aug 2017 10:17:36
I'd rather we didn't sign anyone at all if the only player we were looking at bringing in was Oxlade. We need players that can turn us from also rans into competing for titles and that is not a player who's output is appalling and severely lacking, the fact that he's an England international shows the dearth of quality available. £35m+ for a very ordinary player in the last year of his contract makes no sense at all. Then taken in context of the almost inevitability of Pipco leaving and it's a baffling decision as he brings none of the qualities that Pipco has. The only thing he does is run around like a headless chicken and her injured.

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26 Aug 2017 11:08:57
Ox is an upgrade on Can, Samikewell? Wow, thank heavens you don't run transfer business at LFC. We would be in the Conference by now.

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26 Aug 2017 11:42:03
Have you seen how light that midfield can be with a couple of injuries? Ed002 have said it a million times that Klopp has always liked Ox, and we know he can play a number of positions. Why not give him a chance and judge him when he becomes a Liverpool player, if that ever happens? He has also expressed his love for Liverpool and considers Stevie G a mentor. Gini is a bit off-color at the moment; Can may be gone next year; Henderson's injury could flair up at any point in time given the kind of injury. Then Countinho is . Countinho. Then we have Milner, who's now probably better as a left back than a midfielder. So why is Oxlade such a bad idea?

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26 Aug 2017 12:00:49
Noski it's a bad idea because he's not a central midfielder. Imagine putting Oxlade up against Matic and Pogba? Or Kante and Bakayoko? Or Dier and Dembele? We'd get played off the park. He's not up to the job. End of story.

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26 Aug 2017 14:37:03
The difference is Mr Dennis is Ox is a good player. Kanye and Logba are very good players, yes Pogba was woeful last season but for France he's quality and while he was at Juve he was also quality. Ox isn't as good as either of them but unfortunately because we mess about with transfers tapping up etc we will always fall short with signing these very good players if we continue to tap up. Ox would be a good option imo he'd give us options and actually give us some pace on the bench from an attacking perspective it's all well and good people saying Origi can play out wide but honestly he's wasted there so Ox is a good option!

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27 Aug 2017 08:12:14
Mr Dennis, it seems that people are trying way too hard to sell this notion that Ox is a good player whereas there is NO basis in reality that any of that is true. Ox is not better than Mane nor Salah out wide. He is supremely inferior to Can, Lallana, Wiji and Hendo and he is not fit to carry Cou's toilet bag. Those are the facts, plain and simple. This guy is worse than a passenger in central midfield, has NO end product out wide and is a poor defender at wingback so again, what will he add to our team/ "An option" people say. What option will he add? What quality will he add? You cannot add what you don't have. The only quality he has is that just like the other poor players like Gibbs, Walcott and Barkley, they are English hence, English bias towards them in the media coverage. Were he not English, no one would care for any of these woeful players. Ox is pants and the fact that Klopp may want him, changes none of that.

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25 Aug 2017 13:41:43
Can't reveal who told me this as I've promised not to say, but AOC has today told Arsenal he wants to sign for Liverpool this summer and will reject all contract offers they make. It's just down to Liverpool to make an acceptable offer to Arsenal and AOC now which it is expected will happen.

Information comes from a corporate box regular at the Emirates but that is as far as I'm willing to elaborate.

Ball is In our court now. Let's hope LFC don't balls up again.

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25 Aug 2017 13:54:18
I hope this is true because AOC will definitely be an upgrade over Milner.
With Klopp talking about moving Milner to midfield, I'd rather have AOC play there. Milner is horrible in the midfield.

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25 Aug 2017 14:03:28
That's our problem. Ball ends up in our court and we don't offer the money.

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25 Aug 2017 14:11:57
Having seen Chelsea table a 30m bid, I'm sure we will go in with about 25m and be surprised when it doesn't happen. I don't think AOC will improve our starting 11.

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25 Aug 2017 14:17:35
At this moment, even Snoogy Doogy is fine with me.

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25 Aug 2017 14:24:50
This is one I hope we do balls up. We don't need another jack of all trades and master of none.

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25 Aug 2017 14:27:50
Thought he was odds on to join chelsea? Id be happy with the ox joining us.

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{Ed025's Note - your easily pleased then ste..

25 Aug 2017 14:28:54
At this moment I thin AOC would be an upgrade on Lovren at CB ;-)

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{Ed025's Note - so would avi cohen..

25 Aug 2017 14:34:19
To be honest I'd take Ox as his utility will improve and deepen this squad. However his utility does not stretch far enough to him covering Mignolet, Lovren and Moreno.

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25 Aug 2017 14:35:50
If the reports are true that he is unhappy playing as a wing back that should rule out Chelsea's approach unless they are looking at him from a homegrown stand point ed002?

If his preference is a CM/ wide man that suits Liverpool imo. certainly gives us more depth which will be needed with European football to contend with.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not really like that. Chelsea would expect him to adapt and he has the benefit to English sides of being homegrown (sounds like a line fron Country Joe's "Paradise with an Ocean View").}

25 Aug 2017 14:34:59
Ed025 - I just think he would excel playing under Klopp. or maybe its the desperation at the late stage of the window.

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25 Aug 2017 14:54:04
the OX has turned down arsenals offer there going to make a desision in the next 24hrs weather to let him leave or keep him. if they keep they won't get a penny next summer.

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25 Aug 2017 15:46:47
Whilst I don't dislike him, if he's turning down supposedly a large pay rise at arsenal it's obviously a move for football reasons solely. The issue here for me is that, in order to choose Liverpool for this reason would surely imply he's got assurances from klopp about playing time and position and I'm not sure I'd have him over those within the starting eleven.

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25 Aug 2017 15:52:50
More than 30mil on an average player with 12months on his contract left seems like crazy money.

He won't be in our starting 11 so not saying Kent is better but is rather give him a chance then spend that amount on ox to sit on our bench.

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25 Aug 2017 16:01:04
I don't mind him as cover/ to challenge for Mane and Salah, and it means we have an experienced winger in case of injury/ rotation requirements (without needing to move Firmino wide), but don't really see him as a great midfield option.

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25 Aug 2017 16:13:20
The idea of him playing in centre midfield actually makes me feel a bit sick. Having seen him play there for Arsenal and England it's a recipe for disaster. He's a very ordinary footballer at best, free transfer to sit on the bench, fine, but 30 odd million starter in centre midfield? No way. There's a reason he isn't an automatic starter in the middle for Arsenal, it's because he's completely ineffective, he lacks the positional sense, the passing ability and doesn't have the all round game.

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25 Aug 2017 16:20:56
Talk of him turning down 180k p/ w is astonishing, more the fact that anyone is willing to pay that.
I would take him at 20m and below in today's market, as he can cover a few positions but is he better than Milner? at this moment I would say no.
He is still young so has improvement in him but that isn't guaranteed and his injury record would worry me.

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25 Aug 2017 17:07:35
To win titles you need more than 1 player per position. (of the same calibre)
If we take Mane, Salah off are we comfortable with who we have on the bench to inject that pace.
I think not.
Id welcome Ox with open arms and id be gutted if we did have an interest in signing him and then we miss out.
Everyone doubted Mane, look at him go.
I think he'd work brilliantly with Klopp.

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25 Aug 2017 17:14:09
I'd have him, just hopefully not for stupid money. Our biggest problem this year will be strength in depth. Having Ox grujic etc playing cup games would hopefully see us through till the latter parts of cup competitions.

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25 Aug 2017 17:31:54
Think he thinks he'll be a starter? Odd!

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25 Aug 2017 17:35:06
The point is Kopette that Oxlade has these delusions that he is going to be a centre midfielder, quite against logic and reason. Personally I'd be happy with Ryan Kent backing up Mane and Salah than wasting £30 off million on him. I'd also contebf that you need top quality in central defence and centre midfield to win titles, that is something we severely lack. Oxlade answers neither of those issues. We've done too much signing of squad filler and bench fodder over the years.

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25 Aug 2017 17:58:14
Thank so for the Info MK I hope was sign Ox would be a good addition imo.

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25 Aug 2017 18:13:19
Get a grip boys, he's a really good player that will excel under Klopp. I believe he will be a great player for us. at least he sticking to his guns and wants a move to better his career. Fingers crossed he wants to come, and we can sort a good deal out.

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25 Aug 2017 18:52:59
Tel1949 isn't that what Coutinho doing?

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25 Aug 2017 20:06:27
Mr Dennis, yea but Barcelona are m*cking about. Offer 150mill up front :-P.

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25 Aug 2017 21:26:31
Defence should be the priority.

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25 Aug 2017 21:34:07
That we could end up selling Coutinho and replace him with a very ordinary and poor footballer like Oxlade Chamberlain is actually a depressing thought.

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25 Aug 2017 23:19:53
So let me get this straight. when we were linked and he went to Arsenal we griped. Now he's loads improved and we don't want him.

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25 Aug 2017 23:48:09
Never griped when he went to Arsenal wasn't that fussed, about as good as Walcott and wasn't fussed by him either. Oxlade hasn't improved loads by any stretch of the imagination. He's a very ordinary footballer. And possibly the worst option we could consider for centre midfield, he makes Christian Poulsen look effective.

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26 Aug 2017 00:12:53
He was very highly rated on the boards at the time and yes he has improved. Better player currently than Stewart, Lucas, markovic, ojo and any of the young ones who could fill these positions including Grujic. Don't get me wrong, he's not perfect, but he's got plenty of agility and a fair turn of pace, solid ball control and is progressing into a great player. I think with less pressure on him we could see him having the same kind of year Wijnaldum had for us last year, which would be more than worth the money paid.

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26 Aug 2017 00:54:27
His first touch is shocking and his range of passing is terrible. Add to that no defensive nous and no positional sense and you have a player who should be nowhere near centre midfield.

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25 Aug 2017 21:48:29
Ed0025, I enjoy your banter and you can take as well as you give but your Avi Cohen comment was out of line mate.

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{Ed025's Note - your right kirkby and i apologize mate, i was looking for a name from the past and his came to mind, i never realized he had passed and would never knowingly disrespect anyone, big faux pas on my part and i feel terrible about that mate..

27 Aug 2017 08:21:21
Amerigo, where exactly has Ox improved? My friend, you may believe what you like but the rest of us have eyes and can see quite clearly that Ox has not improved one iota. He was a winger, yes but why is he now playing at wingback? Could it be that it is cos he has failed at that position? He has scored 6 goals in 6 seasons. You call that improvement? Really? The guy wants play in CM as a starter. That must be some kind of sick joke. Why? Who will he start ahead of at LFC? Can, Hendo, Wiji, Lallana, Cou? Tell me who? He is definitely not better than Mane, Salah or even kent out wide. Come on, man you will never convince me or many that Ox is better than any of these guys.

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30 Aug 2017 12:19:40
Ed0025, only just noticed your reply. I appreciate your apology and of course I accept it. Understand completely.

On a lighter note, I might need to change my humorous (but slightly facetious) comment of the Blues finishing 7th. I can see them above Arsenal and Spurs for sure and personally hoping they finish above the rubbish so 3rd and 4th wouldn't be too bad for Merseyside! Love the banter between Blues and Reds, know some great Blues lads and hope they have a good (but not above Liverpool good) season. Cheers mate.

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{Ed025's Note - nice one kirkby, yeah it would be nice if we could give the mancs and chelsea a run for their money mate, liverpool are looking strong especially in attack but we need a forward badly if we are to be up there..but heres hoping..

25 Aug 2017 11:27:51
Ed any idea if we are looking to offload Origi or if he wants to leave?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has made no efforts to sell him.}

25 Aug 2017 11:53:31
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25 Aug 2017 11:54:37
-----------another piece of worthless trash scraped off our collective boot------------

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25 Aug 2017 11:55:15
Ignore them Ed002, dear. I think you are acute 😉.

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25 Aug 2017 12:04:40
------and another one gone----

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25 Aug 2017 12:08:16
Yeah Ed002! I agree with MK, you are cute!

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25 Aug 2017 12:24:39
Ed002 will not tolerate any Origi bashing, they are very close.

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25 Aug 2017 12:28:52
Idiots are out in force today, letting them all out for the bank holiday 😅😂.

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25 Aug 2017 12:52:30
Dunh Dunh Dunh, another one bites the dust, and another one's gone and another one's gone, another one bites the dust.

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25 Aug 2017 13:18:38
------stockified's posts are invaluable and he is extremely good looking------.

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25 Aug 2017 13:29:05
This is becoming a pure sausage fest.

Call it a party in the Richmond factory, if you like.

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{Ed002's Note - You wish Davey.}

25 Aug 2017 13:35:41
Me bird must have turned vegetarian without telling me Ed.

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25 Aug 2017 13:47:28
Ed002, you scored a hat trick of morons there.

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25 Aug 2017 14:40:14
There's a rumour that ED0002 is actually Origi. Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?

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25 Aug 2017 16:44:53
Looks like the lunatics have escaped from the asylum at the moment.

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25 Aug 2017 17:34:30
Ah but BingoRed. we got to keep the loonies on the path! 🤔😊.

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25 Aug 2017 19:19:48
Origi has great potential. Just like to see him boost his confidence.

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25 Aug 2017 22:59:46
Does anyone else get extremely curious as to what the people said that was so bad? I'ts like when someone says "btw don't eat that thing in the fridge" and you think I didn't even know it was there and never would have touched it. but now you said that I really really want it.

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{Ed002's Note - You want to eat Origi?}

25 Aug 2017 23:11:59
haha well not all in one sitting ed002 and would prob start with Lovren or Migs first that way we are forced to try other players there or replace them :)

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25 Aug 2017 09:22:20
the thought of a Renato loan deal does excite me can you see this unfolding Ed?

Also i believe Howedes will snub us and join Juve so we do need more options just in case VVD is a 100% no. i know we have thought about offering sakho as a part of the deal but i would like to think we would keep him if we don't sign a CB.

also speaking with a source who used to work at the club who is still working in the game and premier league has told me that we have acquired about Johnathan Tah over the past couple of days and he expects us to offer a strong deal can you confirm.

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{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich discussed Renato Sanches with two sides in Monaco yesterday - they explained the situation pretty much as we know it. He is available for a loan but they need guarantees of playing time - and that is where it starts to get difficult. If Liverpool do want to explore a loan for him, they should be looking to approaching Bayern Munich directly in the first instance - notifying his agent they are doing so.

I am not aware of any approach to Bayer Leverkusen for Jonathan Tah, although Rodgers was keen in 2014. I doubt he would be open to a move even if there weere an approach. Other sides have been turned away when asking.}

25 Aug 2017 09:44:48
thanks for the reply Ed,

yeah i know we were keen before he's an exciting prospect!

my source is working for crystal palace as the physio and he mentioned it last week so fingers crossed on that one but there is always doubt.

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

25 Aug 2017 11:40:39
The Welsh guy?
He's a fitness trainer no?
Rylands Morgan or something like that, doubt he'd be itk of current LFC transfer plans lol.

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25 Aug 2017 12:27:56
Should you really be giving your source up?!

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25 Aug 2017 15:16:19
I don't think they will sell. They have lost 2 CB this summer and made around €80mil+ (Which is a lot for a Bundesliga side) so they clearly don't need the money.

So don't get your Hopes up.

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25 Aug 2017 15:15:50
" If Liverpool do want to explore a loan for him, they should be looking to approaching Bayern Munich directly in the first instance - notifying his agent they are doing so. "

That's not the way we do things Ed! 🙃.

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25 Aug 2017 17:36:20
Agree lfchopeful.

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