Liverpool Rumours Archive June 26 2013

26 Jun 2013 21:14:36
Hi eds how much are lisbon holding out for for llori and how close are we to that valuation, keep up the good work {Ed002's Note - They want €10M and Liverpool want to pay around half of that.}

Oh dear. I could have sworn they only wanted £5m for Ilori when Liverpool where prepared to pay £3m. Now that's doubled! Cheers.
ROI.

Is he worth that eds? {Ed030's Note - Personally I wouldn't say so. }

26 Jun 2013 22:36:36
They can keep him at that price! If we pay anything, anything more than 5 m for him it's a day light robbery! Zambrano is available for 7 million euros, Alderweireld would cost as much as Ilori. I really really hope we look elsewhere.
He has played 10 first team games. Maybe in 2-3 years time he will be worth close to that but we can't waste money on a player who will get 5 starts. I'm delighted with the signings so far. Toure is an excellent experienced defender. Mignolet is a beast, Aspas is a SCOOP, and Luis Alberto looks at least much much much better than Shelvy.
Ilori is on the same level as Wisdom. GET ZAMBRANO & ALDERWEIRELD.
You're willing to spend £ 25 million on Mkhitaryan? Spend 15 m on 2 versatile defenders who are QUALITY, Skrtel & Coates will cover most of the £ 15 million for those 2. Please BR DO THIS.

Alderweireld can be had for that price (if he wants to obviously). Also, Toby can and does play right back as well. Just sayin'.

Canadian Fan

So have we any other targets for central defenders? I ain't going to ask about Micky but any other strikers/attackers targeted and what is you gut reaction to Suarez leaving or not please eds? {Ed002's Note - I think Liverpool are probably well and truly done with him now.}

Worth 10m not a chance with ad ons maybe. £5-6 m

At these figures he'd want to be a really big upgrade on Kelly & Wisdom for 4th choice.

27 Jun 2013 01:03:45
That is great to hear, from what I have seen of the player he looks like he has potential and might be worth a punt at low fee but at 10M I don't see him being worth risk. Ed002 is there any other potential targets that have been looked at recently? {Ed002's Note - Not beyond those regularly discussed as far as I am aware.}

Get it done, if not next season he will play the majority of games for sporting become an absolute worldy and price will be 12- 18m by the end of next season and chelsea or spurs will snake him.

Also if not get alderwield or zammbarano will be great options

Danthebeast

Micah Richards anyone?
Daniellambretta

26 Jun 2013 19:02:10
Eds,
Can I say what a great job you guys do. Immense insight and info. I'm from the states and been following this site for 3-4 years now and this isn't a more reliable source of info out there. I think I may be able to help you out since it seems many of the posters are asking repeated questions and RTP and RTFP comes up a lot as it should. Because people seem to not read previous posts or use the search function. People the search works if you're looking for answers for a particular player or a certain Eds opinion, info, etc. So I thought I would some up transfer activity from what I have gathered from all of you which may save some readers time. At least concerning starters or squad members, don't know enough about the youth ins and outs.

Confirmed Ins
Iago Aspas from Celta Vigo
Luis Alberto from Sevilla
Kolo Toure from Man City
Simon Mignolet from Sunderland


Targets that have been confirmed on here with interest from Liverpool -I am not listing anyone outside of the ones that the eds have confirmed


Henrikh Mkitryin (Mickey) from Shaktar (strong interest but difference in fee value and possible ownership/agent fee fiasco)

Christian Atsu from Porto (seems to be concrete interest but Porto have the drivers seat for now)

Chrisitan Erickson from AJAX ( most of the eds think this unlikely but Liverpool does have interest)

Tiago Ilori from Sporting (seems likely to happen but difference of fee value between clubs)

Toby Alderweireld from AJAX ( there was interest but it seems price made us look elsewhere for targets, but not out of the question)

Kyriakos Papadopoulos from Shalke (very interested but he is injury prone and the price is high - other big clubs have already looked elsewhere after hearing Shalke's price for him - it may be the same for Liverpool)

Christian Benteke ( there was an inquiry a few weeks back from Liverpool but its gone quiet and the assumption is we are no longer looking at him)



Our players with rumours of leaving

Suarez ( I can't really see why people want this jackass to stay, he is a fantastic player but he is a liability and a big one at that - it seems consensus from almost all of the eds and around Europe that he will go and for 40m+ how can Liverpool turn it down)

Coates ( more than most think he will be on his way and may be the best for both parties)

Carragher (Confirmed retired)

Spearing (not good enough for this team, great work ethic, but he will most likely be sold)

Lucas (there isn't much interest from other clubs as they know Liverpool don't want to sell - seems everyone would be shocked if he went)

Agger (there is plenty of interest out there from top clubs but Liverpool have no interest in selling and even if they did Agger is a very loyal footballer with the right attitude - more than likely to stay)

Skrtel (there is interest from other clubs but his wages seem to be an issue with many of the teams he is linked with so he may wind up staying - this one is up in the air)

Reina (there is interest from a couple clubs and with Mignolet signing his position will be challenged - don't think anyone is positive if he is either staying or going - this one too is very 50/50 - if he does stay I imagine for only one more year at most)

Downing (he has put in some improving performances of late but some think he may be on his way - it seems mid table prem clubs may targeting him right now - I think the amount of new players in will determine if he stays)

Assaidi (most of the eds think if Atsu is signed he will be on his way - think he is likely to move on)

Carroll (done and dusted off to West Ham - best for both parties - Allardyces style suits him much better)

Henderson (another one that may be targeted from elsewhere but seems unlikely to leave as Rodgers seems to like his versatility)

Pacheco (Most think we can chalk him up as leaving - he seems to have no real future at the club)

Shelvey (My thoughts are Liverpool expected more of him at this stage and some of the eds and I agree that he could be sold given all of the attacking players looking to come in)


At the end of the day given all of the eds info - I think we can expect at least 3 or 4 new faces yet with a few going out. Those going out will of course be dictated by the new ones coming in - well at least in most cases

Eds I hope I hit everyone that's been asked about recently on here and wish you luck with all of the clowns out there that don't appreciate your work - also very excited for the new season upcoming


RedWalshie {Ed002's Note - Thanks man.}

Agree with everything you have said, it sounds like you have no inside knowledge but a common sense approach to the latest transfers.

Nice touch walshie, we have one american ed already are you angling to be the second LOL

Andy H

Nice summary. Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Well done RedWalshie for an excellent update of where LFC transfers are at. let's hope it stops some of the clowns who are too lazy to use the search function.

And well done all the Eds. I'm totally addicted to this sight and really appreciate all the hard work and efforts you all put in and value the quality opinions and insight you give us fans of the club. Keep up the brilliant work.

Cheers mate, great post and very helpful.

Agreed - full respect for the amount of work it takes to keep something like this going (and for so long). All for a kick in the teeth by some less appreciative so called reds. They say negative information weighs heavier than positive information, so I will do my bit to give credit where it is due!

As for RedWalshie: Thanks for the update. I read this website when I get a break in work and having to search through the vast amounts of repeat rumours is a little frustrating to say the least! I am also looking forward to the coming season. My expectations, unfortunately, are pretty low compared to where we were at in 2009; however, there is real potential with the new additions and the attitude of the players. Rodgers is doing something right, but in my eyes we really do need to be pushing for Champions League football. The longer we go without, the further away it seems.

Many thanks,
One of many real reds

Thumbs up from me, good post Walshie.

Excellent post this is spot on, incomming and going transfers couldn't have put it better

RedWalshie, I agree with you on almost all the points. But I disagree with your judgement of Suarez. This jackass, the one you think to be a liability is the reason we managed to remain in the top half of the table. Trust me when I tell you, "If Suarez leaves, Liverpool is doomed."

BROCK LESNAR

Smashing post mate. Thanks very much :-)

Great post RedWalshie. Quick question for Eds though, do you think Downing will leave? He has improved a lot towards the end of the season
Cheers {Ed001's Note - it depends on him, he might want to stay and fight for his place, but he is available for buying clubs to bid on.}

I like this post, this could be made into a page, call it Liverpool rumour summary and the Ed's could update when needed. It might actually stop some of the repetitive questions. then again I somehow doubt it lol

Nice one for putting the time and effort in, thanks, great post.

So. no Torres or Alonso Walshie?

Good post mate.andy

Suarez's pro's out weigh the cons. The guy was AMAZING. he carried us most of the season. To him football is a war more than life and death when his on the pitch and his frustrations of not taking us into europe got the better of him. FSG had a gem and should have tried to get more top quality signings to play along side him instead of kids like Shelvey Sterling Suso Hendo Allen Borini Wisdom ect. Now we will lose him because of lack of funds and quality signings last summer.

26 Jun 2013 23:48:24
Ed002,
No problem happy to help. Keep up the good work!

RedWalshie

Well said,

If you are ever in South Florida We'll grab a pint, and watch the reds!

Hairy Yank.

Thanks RedWalshie

I really appreciate the time and effort you've put into this. The formatting alone is wonderful.

Suarez is a great player but he is a complete mental case, dragging the clubs name through the mud. Can't keep his gob shut. The club will say they don't want to sell to keep the price up, but I am sure they want rid of him.
Shame because he could have become one of the best ever pool players

Thanks for the round up.A good idea but not sure I agree re Suarez and probably the reason no one has enquired about Lucas is because he is not as good as most LFC supporters think he is.
CR

Excellent breakdown, thanks

Hey guys if Real don't give us the money we want than no sale and he stay's for another season. Remember the Modrich case and he stayed for an extra season although he did sulk a lot and was'nt at his best. Suarez is a completly different animal and will give 100% because that's how his built. I think one more season and he will get us champions league for sure and after that if he wants to go at least we can attract top quality simples! We hold all the cards.
Brad YNWA

Great summary - really helpful stuff.

Excellent round up there. Good work.

Suarez 40M? Euros or £34M?

26 Jun 2013 18:04:51
It seems like everything has gone quite on the Nacer Chadli front? He was a player I really wanted to join but I haven't heard anything recently, do Liverpool still hold an interest providing they ever really did? {Ed002's Note - One time looking to a move to Fulham, Chadli is now attracting the attention of Shaktar, Juventus and Dortmund.}

26 Jun 2013 15:41:51
Ed what do you make of the Shaktar CEO's comments about Mkhitatyan today and have Dortmund made a bid? Cheers {Ed002's Note - I have explained that the player is continuing to be offered around. If Dortmund has made a bid then it is up to Shakhtar and the player to decide what they wish to do.}

Ya and now he is saying they will not sell unless it is for 30million euro. This has turned very messy and I don't think we will get him now. Such a shame. Dortmund have offered 23million euro and the player has gone AWOL himself. The 20 million is surely the max Liverpool should pay and perhaps they should walk away now.
The Gooch

Christian Eriksen must be worried! I still think Mykitaryan will want to move to England though. To be honest I suspect Liverpool pay higher wages too. I suppose that always helps!

We haven't made an official offer for this player, I know this much.
The situation is more complicated. From what I understand third party wanted to cash out but the club didn't want to sell initially. I'm not certain we will be able to come to terms with both unless we offer over the top and that's not going to happen. I hope things turn around because he looks like a player who's resell value could be high and the player is talented, no doubt. On the other hand, the club does not condone such actions as being AWOL and they raise questions.
-=Solar=-

26 Jun 2013 11:38:00
eds with all the talk of signing attacking players we have forgotten that our defence needs attention. is there any new news on defensive transfers that you may know of.

redshp {Ed002's Note - Nothing new - the deal with Ilori remains held up over money.}

I heard that Sporting are unwilling to do business with a certain agent (he unfortunately represents Ilori) because the agent has been difficult with Sporting regarding one of his clients signing a new contract. Is this true? {Ed002's Note - The issue with Ilori is the money.}

Is Tiago Ilori the only defensive target we're looking at? {Ed002's Note - Toure has already arrived and I would think it depends what happens with anyone else leaving.}

Could Micah Richards become a target for Liverpool? {Ed052's Note - highly highly unlikely}

I read it was a disagreement about agents(again)from the Portuguese clubs end.
In Buck we trust!

Signing Ilori seems utterly pointless to me. We have two youngsters in Kelly and Wisdom to develop at CB. Toure's been brought in and we're still looking for someone to come into the first team to play alongside Agger.

So if Martin Skrtel or Daniel Agger are sold we will look for a replacement?
Kyriakos Papadopoulos and Toby Alderweireld are out of the question?
Could we go in for Micah Richards, I think he'd be a good buy?

Cheers if you answer any or all of these questions. {Ed002's Note - Right now Carragher has gone and Toure has arrived. Think of it as experience rather than a direct replacement. I expect that Coates will leave and Ilori will arrive. Skrtel was certainly expected to leave but I am told that Csonto has told Zenit St Petersburg that his client will stay in Liverpool and it will be Agger that will leave. That seems a little surprising although it was clear that Agger wanted to hear what Monaco were putting on the table via his agent. Now it seems Barcelona will turn their attention to Agger as there preferred choice is not going to be available. If Liverpool sell Agger or Skrtel then another centre back will be required. If not, then perhaps Ilori will be it. As the transfer window has yet to open there is still a long time to go, so we will see.

I expected Alderweireld to go to Spurs to replace Gallas or Roma to replace Marquinhos. Liverpool decided the asking price was too high, but it is certainly less than that being asked for Papadopoulos. Maybe Liverpool will look to him again?

An affordable and available option would be Zouma who, if he moves, will expect to be a starter - something other clubs may not be able to offer him. Arsenal looked at Zouma about a year or so ago and could look to him again. Manchester United looked in the summer and Manchester City recently. The Milan clubs and Juventus all see Zouma as a cheaper option to Benatia and both Manchester clubs remain very interested although Anzhi have put a very financially attractive offer to the club and player. Chelsea has an interest in Zouma but it is dependent on what becomes of other players. It is not clear if he will even leave St Et this summer as, like others, he will be concerned about either being shipped out on loan or sat on the bench.

Richards, I don't know.}

So Kolo Toure replaces the experience Jamie Carragher left with.
Tiago Ilori replaces the young talent of Sebastian Coates.
Kurt Zouma replaces Martin Skrtel or Daniel Agger, if we sell either of them.

26 Jun 2013 14:33:56
looks like we are in for a long summer on defensive signings. the world is producing good attackers but defenders seem to be missing. redshp

Kurt zouma should be brought in to replace Martin skrtyl great young talent.

27 Jun 2013 00:58:58
100% agree with you Amz and cheers for the info Ed002

26 Jun 2013 10:26:45
Morning Ed002. Apologies if this has been asked earlier. I thought Deulofeu was going to Sevilla on loan to replace Navas. I understand LFC have an interest in Atsu, but do you know if LFC have dropped the Atsu interest and turned towards Deulofeu?

The real AG {Ed002's Note - Gerard Deulofeu was one of the two Barcelona players who was again discussed between Barcelona and Chelsea earlier this year and Chelsea were told he would not be sold. Offers from Espanyol and Bayer Leverkusen have been rejected. If a sale is possible, expect interest from Bayern Munich and also an approach from Txiki Begiristain on behalf of Manchester City. An alternative, and something likely to be acceptable to Barcelona and the player is a loan which is whate Sevilla would like. Perhaps a loan to Liverpool, Spurs or some other club is possible, but Barcelona will want guarantees about playing time, as loaning a player out to sit on the bench helps no one.}

26 Jun 2013 09:26:28
Eds, any news of Astori? Or any Italian defenders, there are a few good young players which would fit our passing style.
I'd like to see De Ceglie
I guess we must scout Italy, due to signing of Borini and links to Astori, Ramierez, Diakite, Radu etc
Carlo {Ed002's Note - There is a firm bid from Napoli for Astori but the player is attracted to the wages at Southampton and the bright lights of London with Spurs.}

26 Jun 2013 12:30:18
Ed002, Are there any young Italian defenders you've spotted as upcoming or good enough etc.?
Carlo {Ed002's Note - I personally don't "spot" players but I can share with you that Palermo's Giuseppe Prestia is one to watch out for - at least according to a leading Italian ex-player/manager.}

26 Jun 2013 06:37:40
Hi Eds and fellow Reds,
With German newspaper Bild running a story today reporting Dortmund have entered the race to sign Mkhitaryan and that they are ready to offer �25 million to secure the deal. Is that likely to mean we will shift our attention back to Christian Eriksen? Surely Dortmund (if the story has substance) will only bid for one or other and not both. Will we turn to a surprise addition? Does anyone have any information that might cast some light on this one? {Ed002's Note - He was offered to both Dortmund and Bayern Munich but I am not aware of a bid. Dortmund were expected to decide this week whether they will look to complete a deal for Eriksen or look to elsewhere (specifically Pjanic) with De Bruyne and Bernard no longer looking to be options.}

Apparently shakhtar have bid for Bernard, Ed. is this true? {Ed002's Note - It is, yes.}

Hi ed why is bernard not an option thanks

dave {Ed002's Note - Dortmund decided that Bernard was too expensive for them to pursue.}

Hey Ed. Could Bernard be Mickeys replacement? {Ed002's Note - I would not want to suggest it is a one-for-one replacement.}

If Dortmund decided that Bernard was too expensive, would that mean that Mkhitaryan also? As the fees are likely to be similar, or did Dortmund simply feel Bernard wasn't worth that kind of money? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - That is not really how it works - there decision was based on Bernard being more expensive that they thought him worth.}

26 Jun 2013 10:21:58
Thanks for the swift and enlightening reply Ed002

26 Jun 2013 12:49:56
Bernard is also of interest to Fc Porto who want to sign him

According to Tony Barrett (who is usually reliable with transfers) Dortmund do want one of Mkhitaryan and Eriksen, and it appears whichever of the two they don't sign could be heading to us.

Quite personally I would prefer Mkhitaryan, I worry that Eriksen is possibly too similar to Coutinho.

26 Jun 2013 00:02:00
Saw Mkhitaryan at paddington today at 9pm.
I'm 100 percent certain it was him, make of this what you will
Legooner92

Pretty poor show of hospitality from Liverpool if we couldn't at least allow for a mini-cab.

Must've got the Heathrow Express, cab to Euston, then off to Lime Street. no?

dmedly {Ed002's Note - Have you not considered he was on his way to Bristol. Rovers or City?}

So ayres gone all the way to ukraine whilst mkh is in england, interesting

Lost my shades at the paddington today.Ask mickey if he saw it by any chance.

INDIAN SCOUSER YNWA

Emm I make nothing of it at all. These supposed sightings always make me smile:)

26 Jun 2013 06:49:27
Was he wearing a tag with the words "please look after this footballer" written on it? :-)

Funny that we haven't had 9 am yet.

Saw Paddington bear at Mkhitaryan rail station, think he was with that Snowden guy! double signing imminent?

The silver Mercedes Vito with the blacked out windows has been busy bringing in Alberto, Aspas and Mignolet and hence Mickey had to take the tube.

The real AG

Miss the days when I would visit the site and the whole rumours / banter page would be filled with stuff like this. Ken Aguero, David Villa hopping out of a limosine with 4 midgets carrying his bags, the many 'smokescreens' haha.

Fowlers Nostril

Dawkins - very funny - maybe he had some marmalade sarnies too

Oh good. Now be a dear and give Shakhtar a ring to inform them we've found their missing luggage.

26 Jun 2013 10:42:03
Supposedly this is him in London

http://imgur.com/uBSB3gE

Perhaps this guy wasnt lying, Mkhitaryan has been spotted in a hotel in London.

Whilst I usually hate these type of rumours this one may have some legs as he has been confirmed as being in a London hotel

Oh my goodness! There's a photo of him sitting in a lobby! Well that must surely CONFIRM it! London is the only place on EARTH that has hotels with a lobby

As much as I still find this highly unlikely, Shakhtar have apparently said he hasn't arrived for pre-season (admittedly this was reported in the Mirror) and the photo does seem fairly reasonable. Even if true it may have nothing to it but it certainly contradicts his Facebook statement the other day talking of honouring contracts etc.

That is Adam Sandler

Actually pretty sad responses from people on a rumour site, the guys posted something and then there's picture proof and people soon change their tune

The picture's hardly proof of anything though, is it?

A bloke that looks like Mkhitaryan, sitting in a hotel lobby that could be anywhere - hardly conclusive.

And even if it is the real deal, why on earth would he stay over in London? We're a bit further up North!

DK

This is what this site is all about. Its a `rumour` site! and with a picture it even adds more interest. Great post.

I got told he'd been lob in the lobby seamen style.

How many flights from Armenia to Liverpool?

How many flights from Armenia to London?

That is your answer as to why Micky is in London.

There is no 'answer' to why he's in London because no one can prove that photo is in London! Get a grip people!

His pic was taken buy a guy on buisnes in a hotell in london namely the mayfair. I've been saying this all morning.

Has noone considered that we might negotiate transfer deals in a neutral place, i.e. London?

Are you taking the Mickey mate?

I love this site I love tranny season too. lol (transfer)

that surely looks like him
that looks like a flash lobby of a London hotel huuum the world is full of hotels though.
he looks like he is on a down low for some reason hunched in a chair on his phone texting 1 of 20 agents he has arrrr the look of a man who has complex ownership issues that's awol lol mix all that up with it could be any hotel on earth, he could be a double trying to avoid the Shaktar Mafia.

where is Henrikh? Your wanted for training in the Ukraine checking in and out of hotels is just not on mate. :)

Eds.
whats the situation on that German Pelezzi? I watched his defensive attributes and he is going to be some defender no doubt if he takes the right paths.

riko. {Ed001's Note - who?}

Suarezred, that is 100% NOT the lobby or check-in area of The Mayfair in London. Seems like someone has been having you on