26 Mar 2018 10:53:00
I read that Can will stay at Liverpool if he receives ) £200,000 per week. Not only is he not worth that 'salary' to Liverpool I CAN't see any other club paying anywhere near that. He continues to show that his loyalty is to the 'mighty dollar' and I personally hope that he never plays for the club again.
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26 Mar 2018 11:09:35
I think Ed said in an earlier post to ignore money talk, the lad just wants to leave.
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26 Mar 2018 11:11:00
Good luck to him but we can get better for that amount of money.
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26 Mar 2018 14:46:40
Let him go and bring in Doucoure, who apparently would like to play for us.
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26 Mar 2018 16:32:22
Why should Emre not want the amount he thinks he is worth?
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26 Mar 2018 16:55:58
I’m sure he does want what he thinks he’s worth, the problem is I don’t think many clubs will think he’s worth what he thinks he’s worth.
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26 Mar 2018 17:21:09
The guy wants to go, fair enough, as long as he gives 100% between now and the end of the season then fair enough. As long as he doesn’t go to one of our domestic rivals then I’ve no issue with it.
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26 Mar 2018 18:39:39
Totally think Emre is worth £200k a week as he will be a free agent.
If for instance he signed for Juve for £30mil plus extras that spread over 5 years is £6mil per year, which equates to roughly 100k per week.
This is what a club would potentially save in signing fee. Add his what his market value is wage wise and £200k doesn’t seem that steep.
Look at our top earners, Van Dijk, Milner and Matip. 2 if which were free transfers.
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26 Mar 2018 18:45:53
I can see him going to City and it announced just after the season ends.
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26 Mar 2018 20:08:17
No player is “worth” that kind of money it’s absolutely obscene.
If Emre wants a pay rise then he is welcome to chance his arm elsewhere.
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{Ed025's Note - nurses are getting 6% over 3 years, inflation over them 3 years is expected to be 10%...perspective..
26 Mar 2018 21:15:19
Ed025 inflation in UK is expected to be 10% over next 3 years - your economy is worse than I thought!
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{Ed025's Note - your dead right phil..
26 Mar 2018 23:31:36
Juve want him. we know that. if we want him, then Can has just named his price (allegedly :) ) sounds like fair negotiation to me lol.
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26 Mar 2018 23:49:28
Maybe you shouldn’t believe everything you read!
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27 Mar 2018 00:04:52
Load of bull. not about money, been said on here plenty that Klopp doesn't see Can as the future of our midfield. The lad wants to go and be a mainstay at a club. He has everything to become a top class midfielder but maybe Klopp sees other players who would be a better fit. From the outside he looks to be completely focused and level headed. Just a player with ambitions maybe Klopp can't offer him.
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26 Mar 2018 23:49:20
The Eds are right . Forget the money because the move is pure fake out to keep LFC from trying to keep him and setting the bar for the other teams that want to buy him. 200K/ week is Hazard, De Gea and De Bruyne level money for God's sake, and even Can knows his contribution, impact and value to LFC is nowhere near theirs to their teams. Player values have gone up but the market is not blind. And can you imagine the turmoil in the dressing room if he's the first one to get that level of salary? He's served his term, he wants to leave, so let's wish him Godspeed on his way.
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27 Mar 2018 00:30:09
Ben De Weer et al-
Can is worth £125k but he will also get a large signing on fee. That is why it would cost us £200k per week to keep him.
Phil_Lfc:
Ed025 was right. Inflation is expected to be around 4% per annum for the next 3 years. That's a compounded rate of almost 12.5% over the 3 years in question.
You're welcome!
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27 Mar 2018 02:49:16
Agent is doing his job trying to raise his salary at his next club. Nothing to do with us.
A good player. Just not quite good enough for us.
Wish him well.
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27 Mar 2018 09:07:50
To be honest he is a good player but is very replaceable, I wouldn't put him in the "oh no please don't leave" standard of player, I think we could get a lot better standard of player to replace him, regardless of what is coming out about money etc I think he is off to City, he is a 6/ 7 out of 10.
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27 Mar 2018 15:11:09
Can has come out already denied the false reports. Clearly about the money since he's never denied that he will be leaving.
Lancasterred, he's a very good young player who could go on to run and control games if he did stay. Of course he's definitely going but every player becomes a "not too worried if he goes" player when we know they are going.
Not that I worry too much about any player going. Love Coutinho, he's unbelievable but life goes on and so does Liverpool.
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28 Mar 2018 07:59:24
Was it from Can or could it have come from the club? Conspiracy theory time lol, maybe the club put the info out so the fans would think Can is greedy and his leaving would then have asked to take, can't beat a good conspiracy.
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28 Mar 2018 08:34:28
Kloppshop, I don't see him running games in the future with much tempo, he is a good player but that's it, not a plyer on a level where he can take us to a league or CL, he plays at too slow a pace for me, that's all, I think when he and especially Wijnaldum play together in midfield it slows our play too much, wasn't fussed when he was in contract tbh if he was sold, ok player just not at the top level I think we need.
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26 Mar 2018 10:04:49
Topic of Timo Werner.
According to the german media klopp is in talks with Timo werners agent but according to James Pearce we are not interested at all. Any insights?
I think Werner would be an interessting addition to the team but it is very unlikely that RBL will let him go (He said that himself that he thinks that even if he wanted to play for someone else that it is very unlikely that Leipzig will let him go)
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{Ed002's Note - If Liverpool are interested it woulf have to be as a replacement for Firmino. I know nothing of it.}
26 Mar 2018 10:35:20
Nonsense caused by Jan Aage Fjortoft in a twitter announcement that the press has jumped on. RBL has said Werner will not be leaving.
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26 Mar 2018 11:35:19
We won't be signing a top level striker as long as bobby is doing the business, they don't want to sit on the bench especially at werners age.
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26 Mar 2018 14:58:37
forgive my ignorance but instead of being a replacement for Bobby could it not be a case of having 2 top players vying for the same spot, great depth and the competition would improve both players.
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{Ed002's Note - It makes it difficult for them both - they both see themselves as starters and if TW were purchased and started the season well, what does the coach do. Drop him - no doubt making him miffed, or keeping him in the side - leaving Firmino thinking he should have moved in the summer. If there were to be a change of formation then perhaps there would be a stronger case. Else there is cover in place already and there are youngsters looking for a chance - it is very good as it is. In fact Sturridge and Origi returning would be difficult for them as chances will be very limited indeed - and they will no that.
And I am not aware of Liverpool showing any interest in the player.}
26 Mar 2018 15:13:15
could firmino drop back into a 10 role behind werner.
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{Ed002's Note - Sure, but bit of a kick in the gonads for Firmino so it might be a time to see how interested Bayern Munich are.}
26 Mar 2018 16:50:40
Personally i think we have to do everything we can to keep Firmino, so that means making sure he feels safe in his position. The only reason top clubs are not properly sniffing around him, is because he has made it known that he is happy here and wants to stay. There is no one else i would take to lead the line other than Firmino.
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26 Mar 2018 17:35:15
Eds putting aside the firmino issue and the fact RBL will not want to sell, how likely would it be to sign Werner considering the amount of interest from the big clubs? Our style of play would suit him very well but I'm not sure it would be enough to stop him signing for the likes of real madrid.
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{Ed002's Note - So putting aside Firmino, the lack of interest from Liverpool and his club not wishing to sell, how likely is it he will joining Liverpool? What do you think?}
26 Mar 2018 21:11:31
He certainly fits our criteria. As for replacing Firmino, this simply wouldn’t be the case, they would rotate, as do the midfield and defence. We should always look to improve and he looks a great addition. If Firmino is injured in the next game who starts up top? Ings and Solanke don’t cut the mustard for me. We definitely need more strength up front.
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26 Mar 2018 23:40:52
firmino would be a great #10.IF WE PLAYED THAT POSITION! haha, we don't really play that position. he would have to adjust to playing on either wing spot of the front 3 or completely remodel his game as a CM to survive as part of our midfield engine.
I would love to have Werner but get the point that having two starting calibre strikers could be counter-productive. I imagine we are more looking for players who will not be content with time on the bench but also are also hungry to compete. I don't know who those players are, but are probably the likes of Ings and Solanke who we already have in our ranks.
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27 Mar 2018 05:46:29
I suppose I was really asking about our chances of signing players who are also of interest to the top clubs in europe, I realise this case in particular my question was pretty stupid.
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{Ed001's Note - it really is a silly question because every player is a different person. So for each one of them the answer is different.}
27 Mar 2018 08:00:26
Look at city though, they have Jesus and aguero, with Jesus occasionally playing both up top, sometime wide and sometimes just one. They also have sterling sane and b. Silva.
I don't see why they have to unhappy seeing as firmino can play deeper and Werner can play wide.
Can't help thinking we lose something at the moment if any of the front three don't play, which they will have to at some point.
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27 Mar 2018 11:11:10
With the Man City comparison, Aguero was supposedly pushing for a move earlier in the year and has recently been quoted as returning to Argentina when his contract ends. Jesus on the other hand is young enough comparatively that he knows he's going to be the long term starter.
With Sterling Silva and Sane, 3 into 2 is very different than 2 into 1. It's a lot less likely that you'll be in good form and not playing games when you're competing for 2 slots. Add that all 3 players are young and you have a recipe for healthy competition.
As for positions, why would whoever gets moved want to stay here and maybe play an off role sometimes instead of move on and be a started at a club of similar stature in their preferred position?
Yeah, we lose something if someone gets injured, but we lose a hell of a lot more if people start becoming unhappy for reasons that are super avoidable.
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{Ed001's Note - Aguero was being pushed out, not pushing for a move, he always wanted to stay but Pep wanted a player to do more pressing from the front. Jesus was never bought to add to Aguero, he was bought to replace him.}
27 Mar 2018 19:28:58
Just to add my point of view on this TIMO WERNER to LFC,
Do we want to challenge for the PREMIERSHIP or are we just happy to keep FIRMINO happy and let’s not upset him. c'mon people it’s about taking the next step and COMPETING, if signing WERNER makes us stronger then so be it, I don’t want to see the COUTINHO money squandered on 3,4 or 5 nearly men. also KLOPP will have pressure on himself next season to produce silverware, he will know more than any of us the price on the ticket. of failure.
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{Ed002's Note - And you think signing a player Liverpool has shown no interest in is a particularly nifty idea?}
28 Mar 2018 10:37:33
I don't see it myself, Firmino is doing the business and suits the system. Ings and Solanke are decent cover, in fact I have really been impressed by Ings when he has made cameo appearances. Seems to me to be a player that however good he is, would he get in ahead of Firmino?
I would probably contend that at the moment he wouldn't. Again, if Firmino were to leave, which obviously I would not want as he is a brilliant player (he has all the work ethic of Kuyt, but with exceptional skill), then he would make sense as a signing, but that is the only scenario I could see him joining.
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