Liverpool Rumours Archive October 02 2015

 

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02 Oct 2015 21:46:40
I can already feel the ominous dissapointment on the site growing if/when De Boer is brought in.

A few of the pros that come to mind are:
- he's a winner (titles - albeit in a lesser league)
- European experience (champions league - although never further than second round I believe)
- Able to coach a team well under a club structure which delegates transfers and 'philosophy of play' to other staff
- Success working with younger players

Just a few that came to me

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03 Oct 2015 00:55:13
Why the disappointment?

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03 Oct 2015 02:24:14
Because everyone had their hopes up over Ancelotti/ Klopp

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03 Oct 2015 08:15:59
I like De Boer and think he will turn out to be a fantastic manager, but I would rather have an Ancelotti to grab it with both horns and whip us into shape through experience and respect from the players.
Having said that, De Boer would be a step up from Rodgers because he has already won things, and is a recognised (and respected) former player.

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03 Oct 2015 09:00:51
No disappointment here, he's a good young manager, proven success and was well respected professional at the highest level.

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03 Oct 2015 10:47:22
FdB is indeed a great manager, but only with regard to the dutch league. His record in Europe is not that great , having only won about 30% of the matches. The other negative is that he has only been a manager with Ajax - Ancelotti has a proven history of winning basically everything. I'd go for him to instil that winning mentality and bring us credibility again.
Having said all that, I'd take basically anyone over Rodgers right now. We are slowly disintegrating as a team and he is proving that he has lost the midas touch with us.

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03 Oct 2015 10:59:16
In fairness to fdb how many Dutch teams do well in Europe these days

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03 Oct 2015 11:49:43
To be fair, I would be a bit disappointed (if Klopp was a legitimate option), I'd rather someone with more experience was brought in, not that I'm begrudging FDB his chance to prove himself at a higher level. I just think we need someone ready to come in and get us to where we need/want to be.

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04 Oct 2015 15:47:37
All I think about when people say Frank de Boar is this:

FDB pin point accurate long pass to Bergkamp in the 1998 Football World Cup

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02 Oct 2015 21:39:01
There is now report from spain that Ancelotti contacted LFC about the manager job rather than vice versa, FDB admits without shame that he wants the job and all the informal messages from Klopp's friends indicatedahe is interested as well. People here often wonders why would top managers want to come to Liverpool. I agree it is a bit surprising but apperantly the name LFC still mean soemthing to top managers.

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03 Oct 2015 02:42:20
You know why managers think like that? It's because a managing career is much longer than a playing career. When you're a top player, you'll only have a certain amount of years that you are in peak performance mode. Players want to win as much trophies and earn as much money as they can before they enter their decline. Players like Suarez recognise that Liverpool is a massive club, but Barcelona is the club that will win him a treble.

Managers on the other hand ver often don't mind a project where they can come into a club and improve it. The recognition you would receive after transforming a team into a winning team is something that any manager thrives for. It is a lot more enticing however when that club already has massive stature. Managers typically start when they're around 38-40 and go to as long as 70. There's no 'peak years', it just really comes down to how good you are.

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03 Oct 2015 07:33:05
I should imagine that the vast majority of managers out there are looking at our squad, the vast sums spent, our performance level and league position and thinking that they could do a far better job.

We are lucky to have such a successful past, considering the direction we've been going the last few years, and it's getting worse.

After the match Sion's captain expressed their disappointment at having only drawn against LFC, at Anfield, and mentally weak LFC is. Says so much on so many levels.

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03 Oct 2015 08:04:29
well said fano.
lots on here think most good managers would not want the job.
my take on it,the owners have shown they will spend and give the manager time,to much probably.but they would not be expected to win the league first season with this team as it stands,unlike the top jobs around were it would be expected.

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03 Oct 2015 11:53:27
To be fair to Ancelotti, he's done a lot in his career, walked into certain jobs with a squad that's ready to challenge, maybe the challenge of trying to resurrect a poor Liverpool would be a nice change of pace, and certainly add yet more prestige to his already impressive CV.

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03 Oct 2015 14:35:42
I believe the support probably goes along way as well. If your a successful manager at Liverpool your immortalized, flags bearing Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish and Benitez still get waved. Each manager has a song that Anfield sings, and not just your standard Mourinho, Mourinho, Mourinho. You get written into the history books.

Also given these managers ages, they probably grew up with Liverpool being the dominant force in world football, the chance to try and resurrect our club must be tempting.

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02 Oct 2015 21:02:13
If BR does go next week then I hope we do not go after FDB, yes he may be better than BR but IMO we need someone like Klopp and get rid of the transfer committee, if getting FDB and possibly keeping the committee IMO does not show a great deal of ambition by FSG

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02 Oct 2015 22:16:36
I think its all still a right mess. Not acting in the summer clearly will cause problems with finding a new manager but also what will they do in terms of a DoF now? If they still want one. This time they need to go with experience, a manager of a certain calibre, so probably the wrong man it'll be then.

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02 Oct 2015 21:38:36
There has been no evidence that the Klopp wouldn't work under a committee or DoF. I don't like blaming the recruitment for one, half the player we brought in haven't managed to get a game the other half get games but in positions they are completely unfamiliar with. The fact that Can, Flanagan etc. have player well at CB/LB is the exception to the rule. I know people hate the committee but look at the transfers.

Borini - played on the wing/couldn't get a game.
Sahin - played at no. 10
Assaidi - didn't play
Ilori - didn't play
Aspas - didn't play
Markovic - sparsely played and mostly at Wing back
Ibe - wing back
Allen - Def mid sometimes
Lambert - didn't play
Alberto - didn't play
Yesil - hasn't played
Manquillo - didn't play
Moses - barely played
Gomez - left back to soon to tell
Origi - too soon to tell
Firmino - not played at no. 10 or ss but too soon
Lallana - played all over the shop/wing back/wing not down the middle for the most part

Sakho, Lovren, Balotelli, Ings, Benteke, Moreno, Milner, Clyne, Sturridge, Coutinho.

They have played somewhat regularly in their positions of the players that we have bought that have been given regular football in what most people accept is there right positions. Balotelli and Lovren are the only ones so far that might be considered failures. Allen as well if you accept that even though he is playing deeper he is still in midfield.

The rest of the problems are up to management. I don't even know if half the players would have been good enough to play for Liverpool because I either haven't seen them play in their positions or haven't seen them play full stop.

Theres a video clip doing the rounds of Klopp saying he cannot understand why Sahin was played at no. 10/9 when he is a deep lying midfielder I believe he said "I do not know why Brendan Rodgers would do this." I would love Klopp in but Ed002 says we have no interest, but the committee isn't the major problem here. Its the management. I'd settle for a manager than gives players they buy regular football let alone one that plays them in positions.

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02 Oct 2015 21:33:05
It would be hiring potential once again. Correct the mistake, don't makenit again!

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02 Oct 2015 15:43:49
{Ed033's Note - Macca just posted on our banter page that he believes Brendan Rodgers, "is gone next week"

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02 Oct 2015 16:26:55
YES! YES! YES! Thanks so much Ed033.

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02 Oct 2015 17:39:46
If the decision has already been made, then why not let him go before the derby. It wouldn't be a negative and very likely might have had a positive effect on the team. I've always stood up for BR but I no longer can as not only are things not improving but they're getting worse rapidly.

(Yes I know a lot of you have been calling for his head this long time but until now I was always willing to let him have one more chance.

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03 Oct 2015 02:53:13
Because maybe the manager they have in mind is not immediately ready to take over before the derby? There's a whole lot of variables that we don't know about that you must consider

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03 Oct 2015 07:23:27
Agree if it is to happen. Poor Ibe didn't know whether to have a shave or a haircut midweek and the most telling image on the tv for me ( yes I watched it didn't go, sorry true fans) was when odriscoll and gary mac were flicking through the folder of plays discussing the who's and what's with coutinhio looking on wondering what the hell was going on!

It needs someone who's been there and done it at the highest level, but hurry up, because the div at Chelsea is close to self destruction and that will become available for the top managers to fight over.

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02 Oct 2015 15:08:00
De Boer could b a managerial option for us.

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02 Oct 2015 14:15:32
Liverpool will look to make contact with frank de boer in the coming days.

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02 Oct 2015 18:11:36
Still think klopp is the better coach over de beor and achelotti. Klopp has that aragunts of a fergie or Jose

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02 Oct 2015 18:24:43
I hope it's not de boer . please.

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02 Oct 2015 20:51:56
Well, they do have a policy pf wanting to bring in potential instead of proven pedigree.

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02 Oct 2015 07:59:33
Guess we know what Carlo's side project is. He's one of the managers at beckhams unicef charity match on mic 14th. Support it lads

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02 Oct 2015 01:03:23
The Eds' comments have been a joy to read, as have Macca's insights

There have been many rumours as to Klopp and Ancelotti taking over. The great obstacle has possibly been the removal of the transfer committee.

This Board has gone quiet

Why do FSG continue to believe in a failed transfer committee and a Manager who is clearly out of his depth?

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