Liverpool Rumours Archive April 30 2018

 

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30 Apr 2018 16:59:58
Afternoon Ed1, firstly hope your well.

Apologies for the long list, we get a nice loan update on our players away from the club can you give an idea if any of the following have a future with LFC?

Grujic
Origi
Kent
Ejaria
Ojo
Wilson
Chirivella
Allan (WP? )


Assuming these players have no chance -

Markovic
Sturridge
Flanagan
Randall.

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{Ed001's Note - Grujic - has not impressed on loan, his dad is a pain in the arse and he does not work hard enough in training. The plan is to get rid.

Origi - Klopp sees something in him and would like to develop him but the lad is keen to get regular starts, which we can't give him. If the right offer comes in we would let him go reluctantly.

Kent - he does not do enough and so he would be available for sale or loan.

Ejaria - too many injuries, doesn't work hard enough, looks like he will be moving on.

Ojo - looks to be another Ibe and is likely to be going back out again on loan or permanent.

Wilson - will get a preseason to see. The others above might also change minds then to be fair, as the World Cup will see a lot of players missing from preseason, so all this could be turned on its head by the time the season starts!

Chirivella - like Wilson he will get his chance in preseason. Has impressed in Holland by all accounts.

Allan - looks like his work permit issues are going to end his Liverpool career before it ever had a chance to begin.

Markovic - the club just wants to get rid of him to be honest.

Sturridge - he is available for transfer.

Flanagan - again available.

Randall - has apparently impressed in Scotland, but not enough to look like a first teamer, but he should be able to get himself a decent move at least.}

30 Apr 2018 18:23:24
Thanks a lot Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

30 Apr 2018 18:24:32
Great update! Would anyone actually pay for Sturridge?! Surely we need to just release him?

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{Ed001's Note - Baggies paid to loan him.}

30 Apr 2018 18:36:17
Such a shame about Grujic, Ejaria and Ojo.
Still remember that Grujic header against Barcelona in the pre season friendly.
Thought we'd really found a gem.
Ojo and Ejaria both impressed with their limited chances.
Who knows what would have happened if Ojo hadn't hurt his back.
But if they're not working hard enough then it's their own fault.
Especially when they've seen Ings twice have serious injuries and twice worked his balls off to get back into the squad.

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30 Apr 2018 20:02:49
Hi all

While it is romantic to support our players, realistically how many of the above would make a squad looking to challenge for the EPL and the Champions League? Ever?

You could make a slight case for Origi and Wilson covering for the Fab Three, but how confident would you be if one of them was injured for three months? Chirivella might be OK to cover for a reinvigorated midfield and play cup games but that is up to him. Goretzka would have been a dream in addition to Keita but that didn't happen and we need to find alternatives.

For me, transfer business has to be a RB to rotate with TAA so we can also give him some game time in midfield. If we can get Allison great, Karius good but Allison better (like Reina replacing Dudek) . A great holding midfielder, a first choice CB ahead of Lovren and a Son type cover for the front three and we'd be sorted. I'm not in the know as to what funds are available but that would prove good business to me.

Sell off those who aren't good enough (and there are many, as shown above) and buy first teamers, not prospects or squad players. Klopp has been brilliant with his moves so far (Salah for 34mill! ) and we are not far off being a real force.

What do you all think?

YNWAed.

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30 Apr 2018 20:28:48
So disappointed if a player has got the talent but won’t work hard enough. The amount of kids that would kill to be in there position!

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30 Apr 2018 20:22:09
Enjoyed your post eds1. The one thing I'd like to know your opinion on wilson? Personally think he could make it?

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{Ed001's Note - difficult one. He doesn't work hard enough off the ball for my liking so I think he will struggle to make it with us. As Cruyff would say, players only actually, on average, have the ball 3 minutes of a match, so what they do in the other 87 minutes is the deciding factor in how good they are.}

30 Apr 2018 20:55:16
Wow like that thanks Eds1.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate. If I wasn't so busy I would have dug out the full quote as it was much better in his words! I was gutted I never found a place to include it in the article I did on him recently.}

30 Apr 2018 21:32:24
I'm very pleased I hear Chiravella is having a successful loan! Potentially an option for us in midfield for cover or do you think it's a year too soon for him ed?

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{Ed001's Note - I think he was ready this year to be honest but we had cover until Can got injured so it was better for him to go out on loan.}

30 Apr 2018 21:35:54
Cheers Ed1 for the info.

"When you play a match, it is statistically proven that players actually have the ball 3 minutes on average. So, the most important thing is : what do you do during those 87 minutes when you do not have the ball. That is what determines whether you’re a good player or not. " - Johan Cruyff.

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{Ed001's Note - that's the one. Salamat.}

30 Apr 2018 22:09:31
Thanks as always ed, and too assist -

When you play a match, it is statistically proven that players actually have the ball 3 minutes on average … So, the most important thing is: what do you do during those 87 minutes when you do not have the ball. That is what determines wether you’re a good player or not.

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{Ed001's Note - he did make some excellent points that Cruyff fella.}

30 Apr 2018 22:19:22
Two I like -

In my teams, the goalie is the first attacker, and the striker the first defender

Players today can only shoot with their laces. I could shoot with the inside, laces, and outside of both feet. In other words, I was six times better than today’s players.

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30 Apr 2018 22:26:09
Your welcome mate.

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30 Apr 2018 23:40:34
That qoute by Cryuff explains 100% why many of us love Bobby Firmino.

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01 May 2018 00:39:15
Really looking forward to Chirivella's return. He has been a regular pick for Willem throughout the season and he should be ready fitness wise and in terms of maturity to be an integral part of pre season. Could be a valuable option in the DLP and No.8 role for next season.

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01 May 2018 07:54:23
I’m surprised we haven’t seen more of Woodburn given he was kept back to cover injuries and we’ve had plenty of those. Any ideas Ed01?

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{Ed001's Note - he is not seen as ready to play in central midfield and we have not had plenty of injuries in the forward areas where he was intended to be covering.}

01 May 2018 09:08:10
Hi Ed001, do you know which teams would be interested in Ings, Clyne and Lallana as they all seem to have a good chance of moving in the summer.

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{Ed001's Note - I know of no one interested in Lallana that he would want to move to, though he himself is talking about leaving, so he must know of someone. Spurs were interested but his season out has changed that.

Newcastle are very keen on Ings.

Leicester, Newcastle and West Ham were interested in Clyne, but again, the injury might have changed that.}

01 May 2018 09:49:08
Hi ed001,w. r. t to your reply on Woodburn. I guess he will never get his chance. Firstly the front 3 arw pretty fit. Secondly when they are tired or injured, Ings or Solanke deputise instead of Woodburn. So when will he get to play? Can't he try it out in attacking midfield?

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{Ed001's Note - he was just unlucky as Ings got fit and back when he was expected to be finished, so it was only really Solanke he was competing with when he was held back.}

01 May 2018 12:29:27
I still think Ojo is the one who will make it, maybe not at LFC.

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01 May 2018 13:08:31
I feel bad for Ojo. His loan to Fulham hasn’t worked out for a number of reasons. Firstly he has been unlucky with injuries and secondly he has struggled to displace a certain Ryan Sessengnon who regularly now plays as part of the front three for Fulham.

I think he needs to be sent on loan to a team that will view him as a key player for next season or we just let the lad continue his careeer elsewhere.

Red Sandman.

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01 May 2018 13:55:53
“Grujic hasn’t impressed on loan” - is total rubbish I’m afraid. Visit any Cardiff City forum and you’ll find a vast majority of fans singing his praises, saying how he’s added steel and athleticism to their midfield.

On top of that he’s been nominated for their Young Player of the Year award which is no mean feat

Grujic, on the whole, has done very well at Cardiff, Eds not sure where you’ve got your info from for this one?

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{Ed001's Note - if you say so, but fan forums are not an indicator used within the game to decide who to buy and sell thankfully. People who see their attitudes in training and the fact that he has not figured at all in 5 of the last 6 matches would say it is you that are talking utter rubbish.

The lad has been told time and time again about lack of effort, publicly called out over it, which is far more telling than a few fan forums salivating over a player.

This is why we may as well not bother giving out info, because we get this kind of ignorant response.}

02 May 2018 09:13:34
Dead right on Grujic, Ed001. He had a good start at Cardiff, played a few good games and had the perfect chance to establish himself and be a key part of a promotion winning team. He would then have been well set up to play in the Prem next season whether for Cardiff, ourselves, or whoever, which would really help his work permit issue. But, the lad has really blown it. After going away with the Serbian national team he seemed to come back with a stinking attitude. A couple of rotten performances later and he was dropped from the team. He made his comeback on Saturday, coming off the bench after 10 minutes, only to be substituted himself at half-time, the ultimate endorsement. He basically charged around like a hooligan for 35 minutes, got booked and should and would have been sent off if he wasn't taken off.

Like most of the young players mentioned above it's their work ethic that let's them down. Chirivella would be a useful squad option, although he has been consistent without being spectacular, and Ndidi for example would be preferable. I was disappointed Woodburn didn't start against Stoke, he couldn't have been worse than Ings who looked totally lost at LF. Hopefully Brewster can pick up where he left off and become an option next season. Origi is way way too inconsistent. Getting Markovic and Sturridge off the wage bill will be useful. If you imagine a midfield of Hendo-Keita-Ox being backed up by Ndidi-Ceballos-Trent it certainly looks pretty decent for the foreseeable future.

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30 Apr 2018 15:44:05
Oliver Bond saying Ruben Neves in Liverpool today. Unsure how reliable he is. Eds i trust you guys, any truth or potential truth in it? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - the question is, where is Mendes? Because Neves is not going to be signing anywhere just because he is there without Uncle Jorge to tell him what and where to sign. The last I heard we had no interest in Neves for this summer and Mendes wanted him to play a season in the Prem for Wolves to boost his price. Oh and the player wanted to stay one more season himself.}

30 Apr 2018 16:02:59
Pity but just as i expected Ed001. that's why asked you guys. Thanks for swift response mate.

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I can find out right now, nothing is happening over transfers until after Wednesday night. At the earliest. I really don't expect Neves to go anywhere this summer though.}

30 Apr 2018 16:03:43
Maybe he's in Liverpool for work permit related issues at the immigration office?

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30 Apr 2018 16:40:21
He’s Portuguese shouldn’t need a work permit.

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30 Apr 2018 16:55:06
Ed seeing as can leaving we will be missing a physical presence in midfield which I think is important, what would be the chances of getting loftus cheek I think he is a quality player what's your thoughts on him as a player an availability.

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{Ed001's Note - about the same chance as there is of Coutinho returning in the summer. He is lazy, not a Klopp player at all. Very talented but doesn't do running.}

30 Apr 2018 17:49:12
He's Portuguese and doesn't require a visa to work in the UK so he won't be in Liverpool for that reason.

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30 Apr 2018 18:03:18
Ed 1 what do you think of neves would he suit us? Do any of you look at the wolves page there more deluded than us some of the names they mention for signing is crazy 😂😂.

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{Ed001's Note - he has been absolutely outstanding in the Championship, way above the level of anyone else. I think he would be a very good signing for any team in the Prem.}

30 Apr 2018 19:05:48
Thanks. I had no idea about the visa requirements.

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30 Apr 2018 19:16:29
Thanks ed.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

30 Apr 2018 20:40:11
Heard Neves was getting a flight to his home town of Porto, you can fly direct from Liverpool, can't see him going anywhere after just one season at Wolves .

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01 May 2018 01:43:26
He'll stop at Wolves and should fitness be ok and his form continue next summer some big team will snap him up. At only 21 years old to be playing like he is playing is pretty remarkable, the lad is going places, hopefully to Liverpool next season. I'd love it if we put in a big bid for him, he's ready for top level already, Neves, Keita, Hendo/ Ceballos, I'd be chuft with that, to say the least.

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01 May 2018 09:59:49
My opinion is we will do what we did with VDV, not take a gamble at 10m and then buy him for 75m once he has proven himself at a smaller Prem league team.

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01 May 2018 18:50:00
Kwhizz-Neves will cost a lot more than 10m!

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01 May 2018 19:34:23
Cobra. yes mate, I was just using VDV as an example, we could have bought him from Celtic for 10m but waited, Neves may cost his next club 20-25m but the club after that will pay a lot more.

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30 Apr 2018 14:45:52
As posted on Friday.

Gerrard to Rangers done. Announcement is imminent.

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30 Apr 2018 15:13:55
Keep up Dickie (so to speak)

Gerrard is staying as assistant manager 😉.

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30 Apr 2018 16:03:49
Haha! If only!

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30 Apr 2018 22:23:41
tick tock Dickie.

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30 Apr 2018 15:42:19
@dickie doodles I saw your post on Friday and again today I hope your right mate.

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30 Apr 2018 12:35:42
According to an Italian publication, the 24-year-old Emre Can has agreed upon a five-year deal with the Turin giants which will earn him an annual wage package of around £5.3m a year.

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30 Apr 2018 14:25:03
Bye now close the door on the way out.

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30 Apr 2018 14:26:09
Well, thank God it's finally over, if he has finally declared his choice. It's been one of the longest "flirting" of a player with a team that I've seen in some time.

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30 Apr 2018 15:01:11
Good luck to him, hope he does well.
He is not quite a perfect fit in Klopps system so hopefully his replacement does better.

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30 Apr 2018 15:21:51
Glad its come to a conclusion. Was obvious he wasn't staying and holding out for best deal for him and agent. Good player but we mive on with players who want to be part of Lfc.

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30 Apr 2018 19:43:04
So he’s not injured then is he lol. Good riddence.

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{Ed001's Note - don't talk soft, what does this have to do with injury?}

30 Apr 2018 20:26:09
He's not moving for money then as I would imagine we would have no problem matching £100k a week. Good luck to him it's his contract and he chose to play it out.

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01 May 2018 01:30:17
Can is a very good young player and was playing brilliantly until his injury. Gave his all and from the outside has looked very mature. he has known a long time now that Klopp does not see him as a first choice midfielder to build around. He could become one of the best midfielders around but that doesn't mean Klopp is wrong either. If he has a vision of what he wants and demands can't change that. Pogba has all the quality, Ozil is one of the silkiest players around. They wouldn't fit anywhere near a Klopp team.

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30 Apr 2018 10:30:51
Gerrard to become Klopp assistant.

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30 Apr 2018 11:04:27
It wouldn't surprise me in the least, I think he'd much prefer to be assistant to Klopp then going and managing Rangers or one would've thought so anyway? A lot going on at the moment.

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30 Apr 2018 11:20:16
It would utterly baffle me if SG were to be made assistant given that Buvac has not left as an employee at the club.

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30 Apr 2018 12:30:49
He hasn't done anything to warrant such a job, not even close.

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30 Apr 2018 12:32:12
Hey Benny, I said this first 😡.

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30 Apr 2018 12:42:56
Anyone for bringing pako back!

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30 Apr 2018 12:46:24
Is Liverpool FC some sort of pantomime it always happens too us crazy drama before big games, coutihno before champs league qualifiers and premium start, now buvac before massive week, and pako wid Rafa, come on lads sort it out will ya's.

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30 Apr 2018 13:38:05
From, by his own admission, gradually learning his trade with the Liverpool youngsters, to second-in-command at LFC / Rangers manager?
Neither, for me.
He should just carry on where he is, perhaps with the occasional input to the first team, and learn from Klopp and the staff at the club.

I can't believe that Rangers would ask him, they're too big for that.
Or that Gerrard would accept, it's a mammoth job, with trouble written all over it.

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30 Apr 2018 14:03:25
Club legend SG maybe but tactician?

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30 Apr 2018 15:19:26
Why do people keep over exaggerating the position rangers are in as a club? They are nowhere near title challengers, just look at how many points they are behind yet again. It’s going to take a number of years for them to close that gap, through good player recruitment and development of a squad which can compete with Celtic’s far superior squad. Surely rangers fans are not all so caught up in their past glory’s not to miss these facts? Yes Gerrard has no 1st team experience, but why not go manage in a league where there is almost no competition, where he can only really make things better for the club? Rodgers has revived his reputation up there (now linked with the Arsenal job) .

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30 Apr 2018 17:17:09
There’s no chance he’s getting the assistant job and rightly so. Why do people think cos he played for us for years he should become assistant boss? . completely baffling what experience does he have for the role absolutely none at all.

Let’s stop the silly ideas he’s going to be liverpool manager one day, never going to happen.

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29 Apr 2018 22:51:24
Ed001 rumours have started on Twitter that buvac is leaving at the end of this season can you confirm that this is nonsense?

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{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry, literally just woken up and had nothing yet.}

30 Apr 2018 07:27:56
Reports are saying he's already gone! . not good timing.

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30 Apr 2018 07:53:15
Tbh can't really see that happening. They are working together since Mainz Days (2001) and i don't see why they should change now.

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30 Apr 2018 08:20:59
Crammie, maybe it's due to new found fame and $. I believe the pay between Buvac and Klopp is huge! Not only that, Klopp gets all the accolades when you can say 90% of research is by 2 assistants.

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30 Apr 2018 08:57:05
Seems like he's gone. Must have been quite a bust up for him to leave a month before the season ends.

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30 Apr 2018 09:07:01
Now being reported by LFC reporters. The club says he's taking a break from the first team.

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30 Apr 2018 09:29:45
He’s a grown man I don’t think it’s because Klopp gets all the fame lol.

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30 Apr 2018 09:49:11
A shame none the less, but good luck to him for the future.

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30 Apr 2018 10:01:41
No idea if it’s true but I’ve heard Buvac has flown home.
And that the bust up with Klopp was over Gini Wijnaldum.
Buvac believes Gini should be first choice in midfield and fears he’ll leave if he’s only going to be a squad player. Especially when Keita and maybe another midfielder comes in.
Like I said, only what I’ve been told.

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30 Apr 2018 10:02:28
Does this mean gerrard number 2 and not off to rangers.

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30 Apr 2018 10:15:11
The club has now confirmed to reputable reporters that he is on leave for personal reasons. He has not left the club. Duncan Castles (the Manc supporting journo of sorts) stoked the fires late last night when he suggested that Zeljko Buvac had quit the club but the club has categorically denied this stating that Buvac remains an employee of the club.

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30 Apr 2018 13:08:46
I think there has been strong disagreement behind the scenes for a while.

I was puzzled by Kopp's appearing so sensitive about his team selection and substitutions recently. I wondered who he was responding to.

Not as puzzled now.

Best of luck to him. I hope he lands a great job somewhere.

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30 Apr 2018 13:20:40
Gerrard number 2. is this a joke, because it's not a very funny one.

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30 Apr 2018 13:33:10
I think for this one it's going to have to be a case of 'wait and see' and dropping the speculation. It could literally be anything from a long list of possibilities, for example serious family illness, relationship problems, workplace falling-out, lifestyle problems, threats from Serbian gangsters etc etc etc.

It will come out in the next few weeks whatever it is. I just hope it's nothing serious on a personal level and it doesn't have the same effect that Pako leaving had under Benitez (we were never the same after that for the rest of Benitez's reign)

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{Ed001's Note - it is just a case of wait and see but it is a case of someone who was the main man feeling marginalised by the fitness coaches having a bigger say in team selection than he does, from what I can find out. That seems to be the key issue here. So I do not expect it to be resolved in any kind of return of Buvac, more likely a parting of the ways. It is not about player 1 or player 2 being chosen as such, it is because the tactical considerations Buvac believes in are now being totally overridden by the fitness considerations. I do not see this being solved easily or at all to be honest.}

30 Apr 2018 14:07:18
Ed 001, what u say totally ties in with Henrikh Mkhitaryan say about Klopp. Klopp has a soft spot for hard running tireless working on field. Mkhitaryan feel Tuchel got Dortmund playing a more intelligent style of football post-Klopp. Could be Klopp's selection leaning towards fitness rather than finesse.

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{Ed001's Note - Mkhitaryan was an average player who was not putting in the effort and so was looking for someone else to blame for being a lazy tool. Same reason Jose dumped him so quick. He is not as good as he thinks he is.

This is nothing to do with hard running, try reading what I said properly. It is about players being selected for fitness reasons rather than tactical ones. The rotation to keep them fresh etc, not about how fast or hard they run.}

30 Apr 2018 14:07:46
I remember someone posting on here recently (may have been you Ed001) that the fitness coach is doing a great job and is getting a lot of praise for the upturn in form and fitness in the squad, it’s a shame Buvac feels like he needs to leave though.

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30 Apr 2018 14:23:55
Ed001 - I wanted to ask a follow up question to your comment. It's a given that Buvac and Klopp may decide how things go on the field, i. e. how the player plays. But it's pretty obvious that it is the fitness coaches who decide whether a player steps on the to the field or not, isn't it? So I don't see why Buvac should feel marginalised if a player is physically unable to perform? Or am I missing something? I don't know anything about the internal workings of a football team's structure, but is there a separate hierarchy for the fitness and medical staff? Do they report to Klopp or to someone else? Is this the result of some kind of power play or power struggle?

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{Ed001's Note - this last few weeks most of the decisions on player selections, in the Prem at least, have been governed by resting players for the CL. Buvac would have done things differently and the whole thing just came to a head. While it is perfectly possible things can be resolved, the fact that he is basically being overruled constantly is not likely to change. So I do not see any return for him to be honest.}

30 Apr 2018 14:31:54
Okay, Ed001, thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - the thing is it is very hard to tell for sure, as it is like a marriage, sometimes one or both has to compromise. Buvac has been compromising all along to be Klopp's number 2, rather than taking his own role as a number 1. I think it has just been one too many compromises. The club would not be giving him the time off if they were sure it was over though. So I might well be wrong and it can be resolved. Maybe some flowers and chocolates, a romantic meal for 2 and breakfast in bed the next morning can sort out their differences?}

30 Apr 2018 15:12:49
Ed001, I think UCL medal given personally to him by Klopp will soothe whatever grievances.

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{Ed001's Note - good idea.}

30 Apr 2018 15:25:33
Usually a raise in salary helps soothe things. Did Buvac and Kraviec get raises and extensions when Klopp got his? I just hate the timing of it before the biggest game of the year so far.

On a side note, do Eds know if Firmino's extension has a release clause?

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{Ed001's Note - it is not about money and release clauses are irrelevant in England.}

30 Apr 2018 15:30:14
It's also potentially possible that Klopp can reassure him next season, with the workload shared across the season by a few more bodies, that everyone will naturally be getting a little more rest anyway and therefore we will have more scope to be picking teams solely on the tactical merit of players. Of course that could also go the other way - Buvac being overridden by Klopp trying to give our game time and keep players happy - but it's possible.

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30 Apr 2018 15:57:42
Some very big news about our club has just dropped. On the eve of the biggest game in a decade.

So obviously we're going to speculate about what has happened. What did people expect?

Thanks, Ed001 for shedding some light.

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{Ed001's Note - the problem is, and why it has only come to light now despite being an issue all season, Buvac and Klopp are always bickering. Usually they kiss and make up pretty quick. Which is why this does seem unlikely to be fixed, as it has reached the point of separation.}

30 Apr 2018 16:20:43
It seems to me it will be mainly up to Buvac whether there is a return. As you say, the door has been left open for him.

It might be he wants to be number 1 somewhere, but in that case why wait so long? One phone call from Klopp would surely have gotten him the head job at say, Mainz, years ago.

Hopefully he will get bored sitting at home watching football on TV, climb down, hash out what his role will be in the set-up, and fly back in the summer.

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30 Apr 2018 16:35:23
In reply to your comment, Ed001, I would say that most of us find ourselves to be where we are in life, because that's the limit of our ability or our ambition. If Buvac has always been a number 2 to Klopp for all these years, maybe it's because that's where he is best suited to be? Klopp has clear leadership abilities that nobody can deny, and this is very important at a club like LFC. Do you remember Steve Clarke under KD? He was very highly rated, did a good job of setting up our defense, and yet failed as a manager on his own. Just an example. I'm not saying at all that Buvac's fate should be always as a number 2, or have to bow down to others in the staff. I'm just saying he's no untested novice and has a history as both player and coach and knows the footballing world/ environment really well. I'm super surprised all this couldn't have waited until the season was over. Destabilizes the team and puts him under a bad light.

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{Ed001's Note - I would say that is very often not true, otherwise explain how Sam Allardyce is still getting jobs? Or Alan Pardew?}

30 Apr 2018 17:50:11
Eds how inportant is Buvac to the project? Do you know if there are certain responsibilities that are exclusively his ie scouting/ traning etc.

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{Ed001's Note - training and tactics are his areas. In the short term his loss will have little to no effect. Long term it depends on how well we replace him, unless they sort things out.}

01 May 2018 02:56:45
1. Haa. Ed001 comment on Big Sam and Pardew had me laughing (because it's so true) . While we hope that competence, aptitude, ability and decency are key qualities in determining our career opportunities and ceiling, it isn't always the case. There are other things like contacts and relationships, supposed relevant experiences, limited options of those available, once-off / previous but dated successes that people still clamor about, reputation, etc. That is how some incompetent or semi-competent people continue to hold big jobs while others are still waiting for their chance.

2. Being marginalized is never a good feeling, especially when your role and functions are being redefined so drastically. I just wonder if this is a case of Klopp adapting (as Ed002 often said he is a stubborn man) while Buvac not doing so / or agreeing to it. But to have the fall-out made public now is indeed, very bad timing.

3. Be it reconciliation or replacement, it is imperative to find the right man. Many a great manager had lost their way after their able partner moved on (cue Brian Clough) and I certainly hope this isn't the case for Klopp for the sake of LFC.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't believe it is only about him feeling marginalised as such. More that they have fought in the past but Buvac has always swiftly resolved their differences because they are friends and Klopp needed him. Now Klopp has others he no longer needs Buvac in the same way so Buvac is not under the same pressure to resolve it to help him out.

When your best friend or a close family member needs your help, even though s/he is being a little bitch about everything and you end up bickering constantly, you do tend to just put it aside to help her/him. But the moment s/he stops needing your help and s/he acts like a little bitch, you just say sod em and leave them to it. While I am not saying Klopp is acting like a little bitch, I am just pointing out that the motivation to resolve their differences is lessened when there is no longer that need for your presence.}

02 May 2018 16:55:57
Anyone that is driven wants to progress and grow in their career and lives, and coupled with Ed1's comments regarding his decisions/ suggestions/ input taking a backseat to others, maybe he just feels he needs to be number 1 to grow and progress and try it out elsewhere. No one wants to be number 2 their entire career, they eventually progress and grow to number 1. If he is given a chance elsewhere, good on him and wish him the best of luck! Well deserved.

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29 Apr 2018 21:34:39
Is Buvac really off in the summer?

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30 Apr 2018 11:15:22
club have confirmed that he is off until the end of the season due to personal reasons.

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29 Apr 2018 20:44:26
Edds few websites saying salha could get 3 game ban for lashing out yesterday against stoke you heard anything.

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{Ed001's Note - he threw his arm, but the FA have already said a punch is ok so long as it does not cripple anyone with their response to Hegazy, so they are going to just look like idiots if they punish one that doesn't connect.}

30 Apr 2018 07:18:49
Love it eds👌🏻.

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{Ed001's Note - just saying, in a court of law you set precedents with rulings. They have set a precedent now that just throwing a punch is not an offence, it has to have a certain amount of force behind it to count as violent conduct.}

30 Apr 2018 11:24:54
I do not see how there can be any retrospective punishment. The video is unclear (Halsey thinks it was a thrown punch but Indi did not react (indicating that both no punch was thrown and that nothing landed) and it can equally be translated as Mo shaking off Indi albeit in a very vigorous manner. And that is even placing the Hegazi situation to one side.

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