Liverpool Rumours Archive May 31 2017

 

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31 May 2017 22:16:13
Told ya . VVD, Salah close and Robinson or Tymon both from hull . just waiting but on the ox . keita could go the distance too.

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31 May 2017 23:03:51
Robinson or Tymon. Noooooo! What's the point!

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31 May 2017 23:10:06
Salah and ox ain't both signing. The ox is never fit anyway.

Vvd won't happen. To many other clubs involved.

Tymon and robertson both from relegated team. strange how they would improve us from 4th to higher.

Keita. far to expensive.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

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01 Jun 2017 00:59:21
Andrew Robertson is a brilliant attacking full back and would fit perfectly with the way Klopp plays, he done the same with Schmelzer at Dortmund not a world class left back but reliable, also im from scotland and have seen Robertson work his way from the Scottish 3rd division to move to SPL after 1 season then after 1 at Dundee Utd he was away to Hull. I understand the Scottish leagues are all poor but h was miles apart from everyone in the league in that position, all I'm saying is Klopp might actually show him how to defend properly and he could end up being an absolute steal :)

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01 Jun 2017 01:00:01
VVD is heading to Man City according to the Times. 180K per week wages is serious money.

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31 May 2017 22:50:17
Where's your evidence?

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01 Jun 2017 00:04:58
Told ya? Must have missed the announcement!

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01 Jun 2017 02:49:25
Paul Joyce from the Times. Usually a reliable journalist.

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01 Jun 2017 08:30:40
Don't rate Robertson at all. Makes to many mistakes. Be annoyed if we go with him.

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01 Jun 2017 09:02:47
Don't worry lads even if he signs you will still have the time to bash him repeatedly through the season its the Liverpool way. ;)

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01 Jun 2017 09:54:17
At what point does it stop becomomg the liverpool way and just not blidly supported any player who comes into our team, regardless of their quality.

Ypu would be happy with

Joel roboels
Leon britton
George boyd
Hal robson kanu

All alright players but are they good enough for us?

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01 Jun 2017 10:37:44
I really don't get what the massive problem with signing ox would be. (even though I don't see it happening myself) . I think it could be a good buy. Still young and comes with a lot of experience for someone his age. At the end of the day if klopps want the player, and gets the player that is good enough for me. Let's just have a bit of faith in the manager and get behind our existing and new player we bring aboard.

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01 Jun 2017 10:30:16
Robertson is poor in my opinion. decent left foot and deliver but defensively I'm sorry no way. did nobody watch zaha tear him a new one at the end of the season. he was so traumatised he was subbed at half time. please this is a position where if we get the right player he can make it his own. there are better lbs out there for sure.

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01 Jun 2017 11:07:51
Kloppers. . no one likes an arse lick mate. well. some do but that's a different conversation lol. If a player isn't deemed good enough it's an opinion. We all have one. in my Robertson doesn't look like an improvement.

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01 Jun 2017 13:33:18
If this is your description then just say in your head moreno.

Hes a great attacking full back and klopp can teach him to defend.

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{Ed025's Note - fine reposte supermane..

31 May 2017 21:46:17
Grahame Kelly, who was pretty reliable throughout the Rodgers sacking is reporting (tweeting) that VVD is 'done'. Seems unlikely given what has been mentioned but the guy has a fairly sound track record.

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31 May 2017 22:02:45
Never heard of him before this, but if he is to be believed, VVD is done, interest in Keita is serious and Oxlade Chamberlain is likely. Couple that with Ed002 confirming we will push for Robertson and Brandt, plus Solanke being a done deal, and you can see the summer shaping up to be pretty busy.

That is 6 signings right there and it is pretty likely we will push or a young left back, maybe a right back, and maybe Luan!

Ahh I love transfer windows haha!

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31 May 2017 22:10:21
Yep been following him for years, sound guy and knows his stuff.

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31 May 2017 23:04:42
Assuming I'm looking at the right guy he appears to just be recycling what all the press is saying.

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31 May 2017 23:10:38
The times just reported city are to make huge offer for van dijk and offer huge wages to go with it😱 That's us out of it I reckon. money talks 😛.

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31 May 2017 22:47:49
Looking like vvd is the big signing.

Solanke is to me anyway giving sturridge and origi another year.

Lb, rb and rw.

Id say pereria, tymon and salah.

Lets see how we will line up

Karius
Pereria matip vvd milner
Hendo
Mane wij coutinho salah
Firmino

Mig, tymon, lovren, can, lallana, origi, sturridge.

Squad. gomez, klavan, taa, flanno?, lucas, solanke, woodburn, ejaria, grujic.

Few loans and salea scattered around there.

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31 May 2017 23:54:14
Wasn't he the FA chief during the 90s😜.

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01 Jun 2017 07:00:16
Why do we need another centre back when we already have two world class players in Lovren and Klavan?

Maybe as a saftey net when Bayern and Madrid come calling for the pair next season?

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01 Jun 2017 08:38:37
Kelly says VVD is done. But not necessarily for us.

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01 Jun 2017 08:56:17
I miss Macca 💔.

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31 May 2017 20:49:29
Hi Eds?
What's your opinion on Robertson?
Do you expect Milner to play LB next season?

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{Ed025's Note - for me robertson is decidedly average Evy, milner will only play at left back if liverpool fail to land a proper one mate, and if they do james will become a utility player mainly on the bench..

01 Jun 2017 02:33:41
Not as bad as Cuco Martina though Ed0025 ;)

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{Ed025's Note - he does not exactly fill me with confidence either AG, but i trust in koeman and he must see something i dont and to be fair i suspect he knows a bit more about the game than me...probably.. :)

31 May 2017 20:37:47
Aubameyang to PSG agreed. according to Paul Joyce.
We can chalk him off our wish list.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont believe he was ever on the list liver..

31 May 2017 20:59:44
Supermane, don't get too upset over this;)

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31 May 2017 22:41:55
Hes probably rocking back and forth as we speak.

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31 May 2017 23:03:42
Very original. Am i the new harry🤔🤔

Quite happy to get a name drop tbh. I mean noone actually cares or know who you two are 😉

I knew he was never signing. That wasnt my point. Simple, auba would of made us better than probably all the players we have been linked with or signed and we do need a 20 goal striker. my post of succesful liverpool (past teams) and current teams with a prolific number nine was quite detailed. go educate yourselves. Or better yet get to bed, gcse month isn't it 😚.

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01 Jun 2017 12:45:40
Oops hit a nerve.

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31 May 2017 20:00:30
Is Jonas hector of any interest to Liverpool. Would be a decent signing.

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{Ed025's Note - not that i know of JP..

31 May 2017 20:46:41
Ed002 must be cringing LOL.

Search function will help answer many questions.

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31 May 2017 19:34:49
Can the eds confirm that lfc have given up on sessegnon? Or is it just rumour?

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{Ed025's Note - it certainly looks that way Dmi but nothing official as of yet mate..

31 May 2017 20:02:06
Shame but who knows he could be a star he could be a flop. Does the plan stay the same one elder left back and one for the future? Or could it be 2 ready to compete for starting berth? I've seen Robertson and Mendy linked can't see mendy coming myself.

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31 May 2017 20:10:08
we do seem to struggle to land our main targets. acting like idiots in the past have cost us badly . the executive side of things need to up there game.

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31 May 2017 20:17:47
Fulham are not going to sell to us. Move on.

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31 May 2017 11:33:20
Salah rumours in Egyptian media, at least according to red fans that can read arabic - so, nothing concrete. Ed02, have you heard something on this front?
Also, there was another mirky rumour that Fosberg has asked to be sold from Red Bull, though I am not too sure if we would be interested.

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{Ed002's Note - Salah is very similar to Mane - it would be an odd choice - particularly given he did not settle culturally and for another reason before.}

31 May 2017 18:59:16
Both salah and mane don't specifically play on the right wing, they drift inside and often end up on the left, with klopps attacking system it's clearly apparent that the forward players have licence to move out of position. Just think of a forward line of Coutinho in the 8 position mane wide right, salah wide left and firmino/ Sturridge through the middle. Huge amounts of pace and clever movement for Phil to pick out.

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31 May 2017 19:14:09
Whether we are interested in Salah or not, I really do not see the point in signing a player who made it clear why he never wanted to join Liverpool in the first place? People have short memories.

Will Liverpool now go ahead and sell their soul to the devil?

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31 May 2017 19:37:51
You must remember max it was us who failed to complete the transfer, we were negotiating for several months and refused to meet the the asking price, then chelsea came in and bought him.

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31 May 2017 20:05:12
Sakho, we wasted the players time as well as his agents time. Irrespective of what stalled the deal.

Why would we want to pursue him again or even think that he would want to join us after making ourselves look like a laughing stock chasing him? His agent will be very thick skinned this time round and only one thing in mind, payback. Very expensive payback.

Do you understand that?

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31 May 2017 21:11:41
Max football is a ruthless game, there is no loyalty in football and I hope you are aware of that, salah's agent is employed to get him the best deal possible. I really couldn't care less if we wasted his time, he got a better deal at Chelsea and now after two very impressive seasons we're interested again, he'll benefit the first 11 hugely so honestly I couldn't care less if the agent is seemingly out for revenge as you have put it. Also max just wondering is it your money that we're using to fund this rumoured new deal if so I can understand why you're so irate?

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31 May 2017 21:33:06
Because there is a reason why Liverpool just about end up spending more on agents fees than any other club each season. I am not being irate, I am just pointing out that Liverpool cannot be some cash cow anymore for fans who want the likes of Van Dijk to be signed hemorrhaging club finances in the process. If we sign VVD then so be it but it comes at a massive cost to the club.

Signing Salah will just be a bottomless pit for Liverpool. Especially when we have already burnt bridges with the player and his agent. Why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to indulge in such madness?

Fans really need to wake up. Liverpool's bank account is not an open tap, well at this point it is actually. Especially if we continue to do business of oversized marquees.

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31 May 2017 21:54:49
Hmmm. Arabic papers need to sell copy just like English ones.

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31 May 2017 22:14:00
You really think Klopp and co would put the club into financial risk, obviously this has been thought through. Klopp is being backed significantly this Summer to compete with the likes of city united and chelsea. They are going to improve their squads but you mate are having a panic attack at the thought of improving the first 11 so we can compete. What do you want us to do, just buy some more average players like we did under Rodgers or the king or go out and buy proven talent.

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31 May 2017 08:58:32
Hi eds,
Now that sessegnon is off to spurs, who is our first choice left back target now?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will look to Robertson.}

31 May 2017 17:33:21
Ed002, do you perhaps know of any approach from Liverpool to Pereira's representatives as yet? The right back we are interested in?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

31 May 2017 22:10:24
Robertson looks decent imo. One that Klopp can improve.

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01 Jun 2017 04:40:18
Signing multiple players to be 1st choice who will be unavailable for 1 month every two years is not a good idea IMO.

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31 May 2017 12:02:41
Markovic to Watford for 8.5 million pounds.

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31 May 2017 12:31:20
Great deal for everyone involved just a shame we paid a lot of money for a player who was never given the chance.

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31 May 2017 12:49:16
It wasn't really about chances was it? He was never worth that amount and he wasn't really up to it.

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31 May 2017 12:52:02
According to who mate?

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31 May 2017 15:23:27
How can you say he was never up to it when he never got a chance?

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31 May 2017 15:28:49
Whats 8.5 million going to ge5 us
Rather have him in the squad.

Great cover for mane. Esexially with all the extra games. Intrpducing his pace into things with 20 to go would see the lb wet himself haha.

8.5m is a average championship player these days. That lad from brentford went for like 12 mil.

Unless its 16/ 18. Then keep him gor stleast a season.

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31 May 2017 15:31:38
I definitely think it comes down to poor management rather than him being up for it. If true, good luck to the lad - hopefully he can restore his career with a permanent move away.

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31 May 2017 15:40:56
He should have booked his train ticket in advance.

You can make significant savings, even on First Class.

:)

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31 May 2017 16:05:23
Come on he's hardly taken off anywhere else has he? You can't say he didn't get chances elsewhere. He was either injured or very inconsistent in poorer, less physical leagues too.

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31 May 2017 18:03:41
Liverpool made a mistake to sign Markovic and Markovic made a mistake to join Liverpool. His career is likely ruined and Liverpool will pay a hefty price to get him off the books.

Rodgers was a kid in a candy shop. Hhhmmm, he is going to cost £20m, not my money so not my problem if he does not work out at RB :-O.

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31 May 2017 19:05:04
He had the potential but only showed glimpses.

Personally would have rathered him in the squad than sent out on loan in his second season. Good luck to him.

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31 May 2017 21:06:46
Exactly Max. It was a bad decision from both sides and from both perspectives. But I blame Rodgers first and most, for making an enticing enough offer and then having no intentions of ever really using and developing the player. I remember Ed002 repeating several times, that many felt Markovic was not ready for the EPL, at the time. Rodgers bought 10 players that summer and only two are making any contribution whatsoever - Lallana and Can.

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31 May 2017 10:26:02
Hi lads. just read a report salahs agent has followed Liverpool on social media and his in London having talks with clubs. are we close to signing him eds? Or is it the agent just supports us ha.

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31 May 2017 10:31:00
Would we want him? He's hardly a success story and rejected us before.

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31 May 2017 10:39:26
Scored 15 in 30 last year for Roma and is only age 24. Not that bad!

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31 May 2017 10:40:36
Hopefully he's flown into London for Arsenal or West Ham etc. not us!

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31 May 2017 10:41:13
If i remember correctly, he didn't sign because we twiddled our thumbs and dragged out the transfer, then Chelsea swept in After they'd let Mata go.

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31 May 2017 10:49:47
No interest in Salah. Brandt is THE target for Winger mate.

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31 May 2017 10:58:05
Maybe he's come to collect his stuff from Chelsea.

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31 May 2017 11:18:55
@Max he was one of the highest scoring/ assisting wingers in Europe this season. What are you talking about?

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31 May 2017 14:08:13
I follow Jennifer Anniston on Social Media Domr89, doesn't mean she's gone be ma bird does it.?

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31 May 2017 15:12:43
@Jimble, Oi are you hitting on my bird? I follower her on instagram you git 😂.

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31 May 2017 09:40:03
I just heard a rumour around that Henderson might not be returning as captain for the comming season. Coutinho could be the new cap, with Emre Can as secondary. Milner could be leaving if we succeed getting the two LB's we want.

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31 May 2017 10:09:53
Highly doubt that rumour sorry. Why would Hendo be stood down? And Coutinho is hardly the most vocal, lead-by-example leader on the pitch.

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31 May 2017 11:02:39
May i as were you heard this rumour?

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31 May 2017 11:52:48
Stevie was hardly a vocal leader was he? Anyways it is somewhat depressing to think that there are very few natural leaders behind Henderson.

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31 May 2017 12:26:08
No one is very vocal at all in the current team. Can't see anyone other than Hendo but I don't know if Hendo will make the starting 11 if we got a top mid like Keita.

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30 May 2017 19:10:16
Ed001 - Could Solanke in mean Ings out? I am having a hard time making sense of Solanke simply swapping Chelsea U23 for LFC U23 given his potential and talent. Just a thought.

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{Ed001's Note - it means we do not have to rely on Ings being back to his best immediately, Sturridge staying fit or Origi being ready this time around. Sturridge is the one in the most immediate danger of going, Ings will be given time to regain fitness.}

31 May 2017 07:52:56
Quick follow up Ed001, while you're discussing Solanke's place in the squad. His arrival doesn't affect Luan's does it? Still going for him as well are we?

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware, the two are not contingent on each other.}

31 May 2017 08:08:12
Cool. Thanks babe. ;)

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{Ed001's Note - :-O

31 May 2017 10:45:04
Maybe more of a question of is sturrage leaves? Can't see us keeping 6 forwards happy, even if we play with two up front.

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31 May 2017 13:24:53
I think Solanke is a fantastic signing.

For me Origi has not looked anywhere near the player he was last year before his injury. Since coming back he has looked out of his depth. He cannot hold the ball up, his touch is poor and always 3-5 yards away from him, he cannot get past players and his work rate has dropped so much that you barely see him closing down the opposition like he used to.

I would like to see him as the first striker out the door to pave the way for Solanke to get some game time with Roberto/ Sturridge (or replacement if sold) our main strikers competing for a starting place with Ings/ Solanke as back up and getting game time in cups and off the bench.

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30 May 2017 21:06:30
Hi eds

My friend, although not really a reliable source, told me that we're in for Kevin Volland of Leverkusen. Do we hold any interest in him?

I do realize he just moved last year, but given that Klopp was very keen on the player when he first arrived at Liverpool, I thought it to be quite likely if the right offer was put on the table?
I personally think he would be a quality addition, since he can play as both a striker and on the wings. Also remember him and Bobby having a great partnership when both were at Hoffenheim.

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{Ed002's Note - Sorry, not tht I am aware.}

31 May 2017 06:52:58
good shout, but if anything he has had, a not so convincing season at leverkusen. Probably not an upgrade over origi IMHO.

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31 May 2017 14:35:06
Shame - thank for the reply ed!

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31 May 2017 12:19:52
Shame - cheers for the reply!

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31 May 2017 00:11:21
Seen a few bits on Keita from lazio any truth in him possibly joining Liverpool? Thanks.

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31 May 2017 08:58:31
Think you've got the wrong Keita mate - try Naby of RB Leipzig.

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31 May 2017 09:34:30
Naah. Iv'e seen the Keita Baldé of Lazio rumour as well.

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31 May 2017 10:02:46
Oh yeah? Fair play, he's a left winger, pace and trickery, be a good purchase but am sure his price will be prohibitive to say the least (and seem to remember him being strongly linked elsewhere though can't remember the club) .

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31 May 2017 00:02:55
According to some, we've offered a two year deal to free agent Gael Clichy.

Im not sure what to make of this. Firstly, free agent, prem experience and title winning at that. Definitely a LB. 31 yrs old, so a two year deal is good too.

However. Why has he been released? I've really not noticed his Man City career enough to recall if he was decent, injury prone? Did he keep Kolorov out or vice versa.

Anyway, could be shrewd but it feels a little disappointing as we have CL football, money and Klopp should we be setting a higher bench mark then this? Just not sure (can you tell)

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31 May 2017 06:52:46
hmm still having him as a cover shouldn not be bad. i think we need 2 LB since the club doesn't have any once alberto is sold. Decent signing clichy, but his wages would be a bomb.

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31 May 2017 12:35:03
I'd take him only if 3 conditions were met:

1) We miss out on Sessegnon,
2) He's back up LB (on low wages),
3) We go all out on a first choice LB (such as Mendy), and

But I can't see that happening. His wages should be pretty high I reckon.

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31 May 2017 13:16:35
I'm not sure what LFC fans want. Everyone is calling for 2 LBs to come in and we have made Ryan S a main target. If we are able to get him then would we also want a very expensive young LB in Mendy which would give Sessegnon very little chance to break through into the 1st team for a good number of years.

Signing an experienced PL LB, like Clichy, who has won trophies at both Arsenal and City with a youngster waiting to take his place in the next couple of years would make perfect sense to me. Yes Clichy will not be everyones cup of tea but he will be a step up from Milner.

If we manage to get Sessegnon and loan him back we would have Clichy/ Milner this year, Sessgnon/ Clichy next year and saved ourselves some ££s which could be re-invested in other positions.

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31 May 2017 00:34:21
Gael Clichy is being linked with a move to Liverpool, a few of the rags are saying we've offered him a 2year deal. Hmmm he's free and he is probably only a back up, not the worst signing to make. A few other left backs have been mentioned, Robertson from Hull, Sessengon from Fulham, and Rodriguez from Wolfsburg are now all "strongly" linked. IMO none are an upgrade on Moreno or Milner. Thoughts?

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31 May 2017 01:38:31
Don't we already have a back up In Milner at the club? If rumors of Clichy are true, then one of Klopp or FSG needs to leave now. Absolutely no ambition whatsoever if we are going after Man City rejects.

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31 May 2017 02:05:11
If we are starting #Kloppout or #FSGOut campaigns on the basis of rumours of potential signings being accurate or not then we really are taking the word fickle to a whole new level.

There is only one thing that we should judge Klopp on and that is performances and results over a sustained period of time, and perhaps whether or not the team is getting better. It should never be signings. let alone rumours of signings - almost no-one (including myself) has the ability to judge what signings make sense and which ones won't work (apart from Balotelli) .

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31 May 2017 07:06:34
Kieran93,

I agree that going for Clichy doesn't sound interesting or ambitious and I'm not a fan of Clichy to begin with. However, sometimes we need to be realistic. Just because we made it into the top 4, and everyone's reporting that we have money to spend, it doesn't mean the sky's the limit or we'll get whoever we want.

If certain rumours are true, such as VVD for 50mil, Keita for another 50, Lacazette for 50 as well, then we go for Mendy for 34mil, and Salah for another 30-40mil. That alone is already more than 200mil. Is this possible? Are we the next Chelsea or City?

So, coming back to reality, if we want money to spend on the likes of VVD and Keita, then we'll have to compromise by going for some cheaper options. So, how does that justify hate campaigns like Kloppout or FSGout?

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31 May 2017 09:02:24
I would not worry about Clichy. I am totally convinced the club has no interest in him. Just rubbish from the rags.

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31 May 2017 09:04:52
IMO Klopp is a good manager and FSG are good owners. The club is doing pretty well and progressing.

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31 May 2017 09:54:46
@DAPred - you are of course completely right in asserting that a signing does in no way justify a hate campaign against either Klopp or FSG - that is ludicrous and anybody doing so needs to give their head a wobble.

Looking at this, without the daft hate campaigns, I would be very disappointed if we signed Clichy. We already have Milner on some seriously high wages who will, should we sign a quality left back, act as cover. I don't see a left-back roatation of Clichy-Milner as in any way addressing our glaring faults in both the full back positions.

I agree with you - we may have to make some compromises and look at more affordable options - I just hope the fullback positions are not the places FSG/ Klopp choose to compromise on. It is by far the weakest area of our squad and the one in most need of addressing, I don't think trying to put a plaster on a gaping wound works - the centre back issues we have had are a testament to this: instead of properly addressing the area we signed Matip on a free (who hasn't been bad) and Klavan (who hasn't cut the mustard) - addressing problem area's on the cheap does not help anyone, the club would be better off saving the money.

It is noticeable that the 2 players we really did spend a large amount on (Mane and Wijinaldum) had a largely positive effect on the first team. That's not say to money = quality, there are of course excellent players available for reasonable prices - but these are hard to find and rare. The point is compromise - we should not be compromising when it comes to fullbacks, we should be doing our utmost to sign the best players we possibly can - Glichy would be, at best, a minor improvement at leftback and would command some pretty hefty wages - I'd be very worried if that was the solution the club finds to the leftback conundrum.

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31 May 2017 10:41:34
Chill people, it's only a rumour!

Everyone is dreaming of us signing someone like Mendy or Hernandez but we have absolutely no way of knowing if they will be any good in the Prem. We were all happy when we signed Moreno (anyone who says otherwise is full of it) and how's he turned out!

If Clichy does end up signing is it the end of the world? . No it's not, he is a proven LB in the Prem who is quick, fairly good going forward and not a total disaster defensively.

If the rumours are correct that we are signing Sessegnon then we need a senior LB, is getting one that is proven in the Prem and who has won more titles than anyone in our squad such a bad move for a couple of seasons on a free, especially if it means it free's up money to really go out and sign the 'big name' players everyone is demanding?

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31 May 2017 11:16:30
I doubt it but if Clichy was bring looked at it would be as back up or someone to take the pressure off the likes of Sessegnon. Milner was one of the best left backs in the prem this year. In not sure what that days about the quality that is in that position but I think we were crying out for a natural left foot there more so than someone better defensively. As for milner being back up. I don't think he is up for that.

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31 May 2017 14:47:25
We need to increase the size of the squad for depth, we cannot do that by spending 20mil or more on every player, this would be a great bit of business including an experienced title winner in our squad for no transfer fee.

Anyone who thinks he is not an upgrade on what we have may need to see a medical professional!

Every player that joins the club that is better than what we have or provides extra reliable cover is a step in the right direction in my opinion.

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