Liverpool Rumours Archive June 04 2017

04 Jun 2017 19:39:06
There is a news coming in just now that Liverpool are willing to match same package for van dyk as city offered.

04 Jun 2017 20:13:09
I think it's too little too late. He'll go to city.

04 Jun 2017 20:25:23
Sorry but he won't.

04 Jun 2017 20:36:03
From the Liverpool Echo. Perhaps news to pacify the fans.

04 Jun 2017 20:45:37
It just doesn't look professional messing him around like that. City have been decisive we look like amateurs and I would not be surprised if he said no.

04 Jun 2017 20:48:46
I hope personally he doesn't come to LFC for the money we would spend on him. Overrated for me. Even by today's standards of crazy moeny being spent on transfers its an insane amount for a player who has talent and age on his side, but other than that. not a whole lot.

04 Jun 2017 20:58:04
Alansbarnet I love your positivity mate. I think he is Citeh bound though.

04 Jun 2017 21:00:40
For the amount that is being reported I'd have much preferred we just went and got Mendy, then worry about CB when there are better options available.

04 Jun 2017 21:33:53
Gareth-if he's got talent and age on his side what else do you want? Good looks?

04 Jun 2017 22:52:27
Spot on, Gareth. The VVD deal at 60m would be madness and I would be chuffed if he didn't come here cos that deal makes no sense. He is not worth that amount and has massive lapses in his game. City are desperate cos they have spent 200m on CB's over three years and none of those signings are any good so he has to deliver now so he is throwing money at this situation cos he failed royally last season. We have issues elsewhere at both FB positions, CM and out wide (hopefully Salah deal will come through) and that is where our focus should be.

04 Jun 2017 23:29:55
no cobra, i am saying these are his attributes but for me he lacks in many departments. I think sometimes people believe the hype. If a defender in particular (normally cost less than strikers etc) will cost 60-70 million he better be amazing! Otherwise find someone willing who has talent and won't screw the clubs financial. yes, we have money but why blow it on someone unless you know for near certainty he will secure you a higher position and put in near flawless performances. i don't see that from him at all.

05 Jun 2017 02:28:18
VVD is good but is he 60mil and 200k/ week type of good? I really don't know. While it is nice that we can challenge the likes for City and Chelsea for his signature, I hope that if its true, VVD will pick us because he wants to play for Klopp and not because its money motivated. Of course, money speak volumes these days and who can blame them? But apart from money, I think coming to Liverpool makes more sense because he should know that he'll be the main man in defense, and we need him more than City or Chelsea.

05 Jun 2017 02:56:36
We don't even know if City have actually moved for Van Dijk, that they have paid 70 million, or have offered a 200,000 week packet. the media are just spreading these stories because it creates news. The easiest way to make news is to spread it yourself and then give up to date information on the same news they have made up. A dishonest but effective system as you can continue to quote insiders and sources without having to reveal even a modicum of information.

I have long since learned to ignore the media. Especially when places, such as Sky Sports, create and promote certain stories out of thin air and then try and make you place a bet on them. The most recent example would be Iker Casillas, he was being touted as a player in talks with Liverpool by Sky Sports and, the next day, Sky Sports were directing people who viewed their site and people who watched on the Tv to place their bets. All for the purpose of making money from chumps who believed what they were saying.

Personally, I am happy to wait and see what happens. To wait for news from the Editors on this site as they are honest, brutally so at times, but still always honest, or when a signing is announced by the club officially.

Otherwise it means very little, the news may get a story right now and then but I bet, if you took every story of theirs and attempted to find out how many of them were proven correct, you would see a very low percentage.

So, if I was you, I wouldn't believe every story about Van Dijk, Lacazette, Keita and many others. End of the day, places like the Dail Mail or Express are not here to inform, they are here to sell papers and that is it.

05 Jun 2017 04:18:58
Mendy will cost over 40 million pounds and that is not overrated in terms of transfer fee?

05 Jun 2017 06:32:46
No he's probably in the top 3 lbs in thr world.

Champions leagye semi finalist and ligur 1 winner.

05 Jun 2017 07:09:42
I really like VVD but I echo what has been said, £200k p/ w just can't happen, your going to get the majority of the squad knocking on the door asking for a pay rise if that happens.

04 Jun 2017 15:50:16
So yeah Salah deal done and VVD going to City.

04 Jun 2017 14:54:36
Has Markovic been sold? Did I miss this completely?

{Ed025's Note - no mate..

04 Jun 2017 16:14:39
Damn.

04 Jun 2017 12:56:35
Damari Grey will be done over the next few days 12 - 15 million.

04 Jun 2017 13:17:15
Don't know what the thumbs down is all about but this will happen and at paddy power you can still get 5/ 1 I have put my money where my mouth is.

04 Jun 2017 13:42:00
I don't doubt it, it's just a typical Liverpool signing, linked with the some of the best, and then get grey.

04 Jun 2017 13:43:37
The price isn't too high and I think he's got potential but he's apparently leaving for first team opportunities so joining us make little sense.

04 Jun 2017 14:00:13
Left winger but message to academy isn't great, not sure he is anything that special from what I have seen of him.

04 Jun 2017 14:02:21
Oh crikey. There's that word again "potential". Sorry but he's very very average at best and that's all he ever will be. He's not got the intelligence to be a top level player, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

04 Jun 2017 14:10:34
****ing potential again, getting embarrassing at this stage,

04 Jun 2017 14:15:30
It isn't happening in a couple of days or at all. He's not a player that Liverpool want or that Leicester want to sell, given that Mahrez wants out.

04 Jun 2017 14:28:26
Robbie fowler and Michael Owen were once players with potential. Give em a chance. Klopp knows the way.

04 Jun 2017 14:36:48
Liverpool fans showing their true colours again.

04 Jun 2017 14:44:34
Not required to buy another winger. We need full backs and top draw CM.

04 Jun 2017 14:54:43
What's fowler and Owen got to do with anything. I could quote a lot more flops than success stories.

04 Jun 2017 14:55:08
Thing is that Owen and Fowler were genuine supremely talented youngsters who were always good enough to make it, their awareness, intelligence and end product was far above their years. Demerai Gray has none of the qualities needed at the highest level and never will have, you cannot coach that into a player.

04 Jun 2017 15:08:09
Of course. I'm not comparing grey to fowler or solanke to Owen. My point was. Let's give them a chance before we judge too harshly. Personally I like the fact that promising youngsters are choosing liverpool.

04 Jun 2017 14:37:14
You know we have invested more than bayern real madrid etc. its being ridiculous investing in potential again. if it was players like calhanoglou (just an example he is not needed for us) or bernardo silva. who are rated highly and perform at the moment too that's what we need. what's your opinion ed001?

{Ed001's Note - of what? Gray? Our spending? Bayern Munich's signings? Bernardo Silva?}

04 Jun 2017 15:27:33
If we can get him for a similar price we sell Markovic for I will be happy.

04 Jun 2017 15:35:04
Thing is Jonny, Solanke is widely accepted as a talented player, and at 2/ 3m it's a good deal. But 15m for Gray? No way. He's never shown anything to suggest that he's got what it takes at the top level.

04 Jun 2017 16:04:08
Is he an artist that new CM, or just top 'draw', second coming aha?

04 Jun 2017 16:24:40
Fair enough frankly. Didn't realise we were talking 15 mil for grey. I don't know much about the guy so I can't comment on his ability. I'd rather we bought 1 proven striker than 3 maybes sure. But most proven strikers were maybes once I guess. I fully trust klopp. That was my point really.

04 Jun 2017 20:40:06
Gray makes no sense with the younger wingers like Ojo, Woodburn, Wilson as well as the likes of Kent and Markovic still on the books.

04 Jun 2017 22:57:57
Gray is not coming here as he is not even better than those we have in our U23's. That transfer news a a nothing burger and it ain't going to happen.

04 Jun 2017 12:16:19
All I'll say is don't write off VVD just yet 😎.

04 Jun 2017 12:24:33
Come on mate don't leave us hangin. do elaborate.?

04 Jun 2017 12:53:05
I reckon we just offer £60m for VVD and Bertrand.
Take it or leave it.

04 Jun 2017 14:01:46
They'll leave it, we're in a sellers market at moment.

{Ed025's Note - very true freshst..

04 Jun 2017 14:10:21
Can I ask the eds. Who do expect us to sign. Salah and Robertson sound great to me. Grey I'm not sure on, don't know much about him or solanke. Do you expect the latter two to be in first team squad? Thanks. Your insight is fantastic. Nice to hear people who know their stuff. P. s. Give me a snug fitting pair of gola over fancy uncomfortable Nike any day.

{Ed025's Note - i would say at this stage salah and robertson would seem the most likely jonny but im sure there will be others that will be kept under wraps and come as a bit of a surprise mate..being the youngest in the family i was the king of the cast offs and so most of my footwear was "nearly new", but i must admit i looked good in my sisters red high heels.. :)

04 Jun 2017 14:56:56
Brilliant Ed025.

04 Jun 2017 16:01:41
Don't normally moan but Jesus that's so uninspiring.

{Ed025's Note - if you dont moan farno then im afraid your on the wrong site mate.. :)

04 Jun 2017 16:29:26
Ha ha thanks ed.

04 Jun 2017 18:44:36
love ed25.

04 Jun 2017 10:40:33
Hi Eds

Rumours again this morning about Lacazette again this morning and that we're meeting his representatives this week. I know it's probably rubbish, especially as it's someone I've wanted to see at the club for a while, but can you offer any insight Eds, would we be in for him and would he be interested in us. From what I've seen of him he looks a cracking finisher.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any interest from us. All I know is that, with his move to Atleti on the rocks, he is considering his options but still wants to move on this summer.}

04 Jun 2017 10:58:35
I guess he will end up at UTD or Arsenal. ( both looking at high end strikers )

04 Jun 2017 11:20:00
It's not going to happen. These are the owners that thought Balotelli would be an adequate replacement for Saurez.

04 Jun 2017 12:06:21
Quite frankly, Frankly, FSG don't conduct performance appraisals of recruitment targets. They trust the club to do that.

04 Jun 2017 12:32:29
Fsg are just worried abut making profit that is what businessmen do.

{Ed025's Note - so does every club KDK, what do you want from them?..to say here,s £500m go and get who you want mr klopp, FSG have invested a lot of money into the LFC project and deserve a bit more credit imo, sometimes you sound like spoilt brats who want the latest nike trainers even they know their mum cant afford them..

04 Jun 2017 12:59:37
Class reply, fifa or kids today.

04 Jun 2017 13:04:36
Absolutely spot on Eds, although Gola were the trainers of choice in my day haha, of course they're in it to make money why else, but what you have to look at is how they're trying to do that, they're investing and improving the whole time not taking and taking . some people will never be happy.

{Ed025's Note - your right there Jcw, i had pair of green flash pumps and was bloody grateful mate.. :)

04 Jun 2017 14:46:26
I'm not sure I said anything that was not fact? The people behind the scenes felt that Balotelli was an adequate replacement for Suarez on the cheap (though he turned out very expensive since no one would buy him) . They're not going to pay top dollar for the top players or even those in the next bracket below. It's long shots and prospects they're more interested in. I don't expect us to challenge for the league next year as things stand and certainly don't think we'll get out of the group stages of the Champions League. Top four is about the limit of our squad.

04 Jun 2017 16:48:40
And yet Spurs have challenged for the title 2 years in a row now, spending less money than we do. And Juventus and Atleti make CL top 4 regularly, spending less money than we do.

At some point, you need people with some talent at running a club, recruiting and developing players and coaching the side. It's not all about owners and who's paying"top dollar".

04 Jun 2017 19:35:57
Some posters on here. the average post has more moaning than the average full length porn film. The substance of the moaning has as much connection with reality as the moaning in the film action. We react as if the most flimsy paper speculation is fact and complain about players we may never sign.

03 Jun 2017 19:17:01
Eds. For fun only, crazy I no but can you ( in your opinion ) put a percentage out of 100 for Lfc signing each one of these players -

Salah
VVD
Ox
Mendy
Robertson
Rafinha
Kieta
Tymon
Luan

Bit if fun mate that's all.

{Ed025's Note - 1..75% 2..30% 3...50% 4 10% 5...80% 6..10% 7..20% 8...0% 9..10%..

04 Jun 2017 10:48:22
Hope we pass on no3 and no5.

04 Jun 2017 11:13:09
Agree - not sure why we'd go for Ox if we get Salah, and think we need to aim high at LB.

04 Jun 2017 08:41:25
Edd025 you walked straight into that one mate. allready questioning you above about it ha ha brilliant. good luck! "Bit of fun that's all o promise edd".
Serious though you do a famtastic job la.

{Ed025's Note - "fun" is my middle name billy..

04 Jun 2017 12:12:40
Andrew Robertson in relation to stats for anyone who is interested isn't far behind danny rose for example in terms of duels tackles and assists.

He's actually defensively better than mendy again in terms of stats. For 8 mill and a fraction of mendys wages it's something that makes sense in terms of stats. I understand he's not exotic and stats can change but if acquired he's a solid no frills left back with premier league experience and good work ethic.

04 Jun 2017 12:47:41
He has an avg rating of 6.7 as LB while Milner has 7.2. Milner had 3 assists while Robsie has 1. Of course Milly scores in pens but he's scored in open game while Robsie has none. I doubt he's an upgrade of what we already have. A backup maybe but I'd get a better player.

04 Jun 2017 13:51:33
I think Roberts on will be a success at Liverpool. going to have to be better than JM to get at game so stop worrying guys.

04 Jun 2017 13:52:47
kwkhong,
maybe Milner was playing with better players around him? Stats, stats and lies.

03 Jun 2017 23:18:36
Have City come back in for VVD ed? 60m being suggested?

{Ed002's Note - Yes they are one of the interested sides.}

04 Jun 2017 02:13:16
Have they secured his transfer as suggested by the Mirror?

04 Jun 2017 03:19:56
I know VVD is good but 60m and 200k/ week maybe too much for a club like LFC.

04 Jun 2017 06:47:16
It's the daily mirror not really reliable.

04 Jun 2017 09:54:11
I'd rather we sign some unknown gem from the German league than spend 60 million on a good but not world class defender.

04 Jun 2017 14:20:29
As long as that unknown gem becomes world class, right? I hear this kind of rhetoric a lot. Markovic was an unknown gem from the Portuguese league once upon a time. Manquillo?

04 Jun 2017 00:12:38
I've heard a rumour and I stress rumour that hendersons career is basically going to be on a downward slope from now on as this injury means he is going to be playing through pain rest of his career . I was gutted when I heard this as Henderson is an unsung hero in this team and when fully fit and in form 1 of the best midfielders in the league and Europe . Just want the eds to clarify if they have heard anything similar?

04 Jun 2017 00:28:07
This contradicts what Henderson himself said couple of weeks ago where he said he was as fit as he had been for a long while or something along those lines.

04 Jun 2017 03:26:04
@DHFC Henderson "when fully fit and in form 1 of the best midfielders in the league and Europe. " Ummmmm, No.

04 Jun 2017 06:33:37
Ummmm Yes! He on his day has everything. Great stamina, strength, pace is good enough, passing range, leadership, tackling, tracking, goals, assists and desire.

He is underrated and under appreciated by too many fans.

04 Jun 2017 07:48:29
Come on Max, you should get with the program and realise that if you play for Liverpool you are automatically not good enough and deserve to be slated especially if there is no good reason to.