Liverpool Rumours Archive August 05 2020

 

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05 Aug 2020 17:59:13
Been reading Norwich want 20M For Lewis and we value him at 10M.

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05 Aug 2020 18:42:16
Ed001, if you are about. What are your thoughts on jamal Lewis. Money aside, do you think he is a good option ability wise for lb cover.

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{Ed001's Note - always looks decent whenever I see him play, one of the better options if you ask me.}

05 Aug 2020 19:29:57
Ed001, we discussed the possibility of Lewis a week ago, before this speculation about our link to him came up. We both agreed then that it would be a good move.

He looks a good young player, and while I think he'd be out of his depth at Liverpool there, he has also played on the left wing.

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05 Aug 2020 20:27:36
Sparkywonderdog hit the nail on the head again.

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05 Aug 2020 20:35:19
this could be another good value signing for Liverpool, Jamel Lewis is 22yrs old, tallish, great pace and very good crosser, he is an international,
I have heard that Norwich want more than 10 million, but they have asked about our own left back Yasser Larouci, so a deal could be done,
also heard that Jamel has returned home early from his holiday . in case something happens, it would be a big move for him,
I think that he could if he came, he would improve greatly .

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05 Aug 2020 20:41:37
ed001 I would love us to get Lewis every time I watched Norwich I thought he had a decent game thought he looked better than Max Aarons, Everybody seems raves about him all the time. if we did get him that would be 4 great full backs on the books and with all the running they do they could do with more rest than they get. And I hope it will keep Joe Gomez from playing full back every time he plays there I think his going to get a bad injury. ed what are your thoughts on Diego Carlos I have not seen him play just watched his season highlights on youtube and there seems to be loads of last second sliding tackles what for me seems to say there out of position I can't remember VVD making hardly any all season. As they said in days past before the pitches of today you could tell the best defenders by how clean there strip was.

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{Ed001's Note - I have not seen a lot of Carlos sorry.}

05 Aug 2020 21:11:17
Give them £15 mill and Larouci and call it a day. He'd be a great signing and push both himself and Robbo to greater heights. He sounds like a top addition. Him and Mandi would be great signings. If PSG offer 50M for Matip, I'd take it and use it for a nice top player like Havertz and promote one of the young lads to 4th CB. Maybe sell Grujic, Shaq, Woodburn, Wilson and possibly Origi.

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05 Aug 2020 21:18:13
I love how much that dog hates the fat kid 😂 and throwing out a few non cryptic tweets saves time not having to solve them! Cheers sparkys owner.

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05 Aug 2020 22:25:41
Hiya lad's ok I haven't a clue about Sparkeywonderdog or how to read about his clues so can I ask did he drop a hint about Lewis coming from Norwich?

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05 Aug 2020 23:06:32
Check out his latest tweets mate they couldn't be clearer, basically that fat kid from bolton has been lying again.

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06 Aug 2020 00:49:04
Man, broke character to be clear on an important issue.

Fair play to him

Honestly, imo if you are betting on transfers you got a gambling addiction. Where's the fun in it.

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06 Aug 2020 07:36:42
Davey the lad just reposts what he reads as his own, then if it happens he can claim he was right.

I have no idea how or why so many follow him as his success rate must be about 5%.

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06 Aug 2020 09:20:04
Ahh I give up haven't a clue how to us Twitter🤦‍♂️.

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06 Aug 2020 10:15:29
barry i don't have twitter either i usually just type his name into google to get his account but his tweets were,

In response to questions regarding the Fat Kid From Bolton confirming today that Norwich have accepted a £10M bid from Liverpool and granted permission for the club to talk with him, that is in fact two lies.

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Sparky can only assume that all of the lies from the Fat Kid From Bolton somehow serve to earn him money from betting. How many Liverpool supporters placed a wager on Sancho joining next summer after the FKFB told them a pre-contract agreement was in place?

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06 Aug 2020 01:06:32
Ed002 is WonderSparkyDog!

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06 Aug 2020 10:47:10
I worry about Lewis defensively Ed001. He got dropped at one point for Byram who isn't even a left back. However, as a home grown back up (for a relatively small fee in today's game) it might just be a gamble worth taking considering we don't seem to have any outstanding left backs in the academy. I guess our wing backs don't do too much defending anyway so maybe Lewis will suit playing in a better team! He's certainly no worse than Williams who will be the back up right back next season. I'm wary of how successful this move would be but i've got absolute faith in Klopp. There is no way a player would be signing without him giving the green light.

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{Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure he got injured and Byram came in, Byram keeping his place after his return to fitness as Farke felt he had played well enough to keep it.}

06 Aug 2020 11:07:27
Fair enough Ed001. That is a much better thought than if he'dlost his place through bad performances. Apparently he really wants the move and it's always nice when a player really wants to be at the club.

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06 Aug 2020 11:09:09
Thank you WYred this is why the teacher made me sit in the corner with a big D on my head mate🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.

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{Ed001's Note - that wasn't the only reason Connor.}

06 Aug 2020 11:46:23
Nice to have cover for all places but unless there are 11 substitutes or Robbo gets injured he won’t appear much. Someone like Milner who can cover 15 positions is far more likely to be a sub. Where’s the links to first team improvements, even if we can’t afford them at least i get some false hope!

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{Ed001's Note - you do realise that this season is going to be shorter than usual? So players will need more breaks.}

06 Aug 2020 12:26:15
War machine, I believe Lewis is versatile. I'm sure he can play in a midfield 3 or on the left of a front 3 as well. I might have that wrong though and i have no idea how good he is further forward.

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06 Aug 2020 18:55:33
You're correct HMB. He's played further forward and is also two footed, so if he's going to be mainly on the bench at first, no doubt the coaches will get him to be even more versatile.

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06 Aug 2020 20:26:02
yes Jamel Lewis can play further forward easily, and like op says he is two footed,
he indeed pick up an injury, and Sam Byram covered him,
Jamel has around 100 games for Norwich, and I think 6 games for Northern Ireland,
he would be my first choice at cover for Left Back
the Greek lad Kostas Tsimikas would be a good option too, but I think one of the Eds mentioned that a few clubs are after him .

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07 Aug 2020 13:46:08
Watch Lewis' winning goal against Leicester. Pretty tasty.

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05 Aug 2020 14:15:04
Aston villa rumoured to be in for Divock Origi. Some outlets are saying we're looking for around £30million.

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05 Aug 2020 14:56:30
It would make perfect sense if we could also bring in Sarr IMO - Divock is good enough to want to play more, but Minamino Is more like for like backup for Firmino. Selling Divock for Sarr would give him the playing time he deserves, while bringing in Sarr would add a natural attacking wide forward to allow us to rest Mane or Salah without us having to change our system too much.

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05 Aug 2020 15:12:38
£30mil

Take their arm off!

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05 Aug 2020 15:38:31
Loosing Sarr, Mane and Salah for the AFCON would be ridiculous.
Throw in the Algerian CB too and it just doesn't make much sense. I reckon we are throwing some bids out there to create smokescreens .

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{Ed002's Note - And Keita.}

05 Aug 2020 15:39:02
SGRed if we could get £20m for Origi I would snatch there hand off let alone £30m. with Money being so tight if we could sell Origi shaqiri and Wilson and get one good player in there who would play as much as shaqiri and Origi I think that would make us so much better. And then add Brewster to the squad I think we would have much better competition for are front 3. And there would also be Minamino who I think is going to turn out a good signing for us but I do think he is going to need another year before we see the best of him.

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05 Aug 2020 15:55:26
If Origi is sold the clear and obvious replacement is Brewster. Sarr is not an improvement on what we have in my opinion. Plus the AFCON issue.

Klopp seems to like Ox out wide anyway. He scored 8 goals last season as a ressie (our 4th highest scorer, and 2 more than Sarr) and most of them came off the wings running at people or in behind.

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05 Aug 2020 17:14:22
Agree 100% Grino

HMB if we sold Origi and brought in Sarr, it’s not so obvious he’ll be a better player, but i think it makes more sense to have a specialist wide forward on the bench than 3 CFs competing for attention in Origi, Minamino and Brewster (Minamino perhaps the most flexible of these, but arguably Klopps favourite to backup Firmino) .

Ox can certainly play there, but again not a specialist IMO and I think Klopps view is he’s a midfielder first.

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05 Aug 2020 17:54:04
Don’t know why you should bite anyone’s arm off at £30 million? After being asked to sit on the bench all season when called upon in our hour of need The Lad scored twice to knock Barcelona out in the semi and scored in the final of the European cup. Doesn’t matter what you think of him them stats don’t lie you should be ashamed to just want to cast him aside for someone who has done nothing!

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05 Aug 2020 18:17:54
That's true scouse john L8, the thing is though, Div is not really suited to our system .

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05 Aug 2020 18:28:07
So just coz he scored a couple of important goalz, btw his job, how many seasons must we keep him? If a much better player is available then it only makes sense he moves on.
Hopefully the lad can leave on a high get regular game time which is nothing more than he deserves.

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05 Aug 2020 18:34:36
Doesn’t matter if he suited Spaceman he can’t get a game he warms the bench. doesn’t moan or try and get a move imagine any other striker done what he did last year, they’d be up in arms full of themselves wanting more money or star player treatment. If Harry Kane would of achieved what origi did he would want to pull Nelson from his column and have himself up there. People talk of getting these players in (raw) and transforming them. Origi £10 million quid scored a brace in semi and comes off his usual perch in the final to win it. Anyone think Sarr would do that?

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05 Aug 2020 19:10:40
Why do people keep going on about AFCON? The next one is in January 2022.

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05 Aug 2020 20:24:18
We should go for Nkunku from Leipzig only 20 raw talent which Klopp would turn into a superstar.

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{Ed002's Note - Sell Nobby then?}

05 Aug 2020 20:25:34
scouse john L8 he scored them last season got a lot more game time this season and has less goals. he should have gone at the end of last season because his never been good enough and what a time to have gone he will still go down in history as a reds legend and will all ways be loved by the fans. But his game time went down after lockdown with Minamino get more time and if we get a better wide player he will get less and his value will gone down more. And at his age he needs and deserves to be playing and that is never going to happen at Liverpool.

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05 Aug 2020 20:37:00
Personally I think he’s a decent option to come off the bench, he’s never going to be a world class player, but he always gives 100% and doesn’t complain about being the understudy. You can tell that being part of the club and it’s success means something to him, that moment in the last game of the season at Anfield when he was the last man on the pitch looking at the Kop spoke more than a million words could. Personally, I think he gives us something that our other forwards don’t have, and that’s a physical presence if we have to go long, regrettably agricultural football is occasionally needed and he gives us that option. If he does leave though, he leaves with his head held high that not only did he contribute to the success of the club, he was loved as a cult hero. He’ll be harder to replace than a lot of people think.

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05 Aug 2020 20:40:31
I think that we need another wide player, Ismaila Sarr does fit the bill, but the Shaq and Wilson would have to be sold to pay for him, also to make the space, could we get him for 25 or 30 million?

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05 Aug 2020 21:22:03
Origi gives a physical presence? Really?

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05 Aug 2020 20:48:02
Sell nobby Ed’s 2 then we would be looking Mbappe don’t you think.

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06 Aug 2020 12:38:29
The only smokescreen will be the one John Henry is setting in front of his safe.

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10 Aug 2020 01:02:01
Nonsense to say Origi can't be sold cos he scored 2 tap ins that came on a plate to him and then claim he got the winner in CL final when he scored to make 2-0 late on. To say it's great he never complains or desires to be a starter isn't a positive thing for a player who will unlikely improve if he's happy to coast along with little ambition. Whoever said Harry Kane would kill to achieve the moments origi had is laughable really when you consider a striker who's been prolific and leading the scoring charts for each season that origi has been in the league and 95% of that time he's spent not even as a starter while scoring the amount of goals each season that Kane usually notches in 1 month of that season, a player who's won the golden boot at the world cup also yet origi you claim has been the envy of Harry Kane 😂.

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05 Aug 2020 11:57:41
Ed002

Seen you mention on the united page that sancho was offered to 2 other clubs with a reduced agent fee. Was wondering if one of those clubs was Liverpool?

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{Ed002's Note - No, it is nothing to do with Liverpool.}

05 Aug 2020 11:28:52
eds i did asked week or so about chiesa apperently sin lastnight or so they are wiling to let him go so if origi rumors are true i would love if we can get chiesa instead origi jost get him in for simmular cash that u sell origi.

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{Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen, sorry.}

05 Aug 2020 08:02:50
With Bournemouth relegated I'd imagine their interest in Wilson is gone. Any other clubs interest ed.

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{Ed002's Note - As I have explained. perhaps Leeds.}

05 Aug 2020 09:42:41
Bielsa likes hard workers doesn't he? Wilson was dropped for the dog fight for not being that, no?

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{Ed002's Note - You need to take it to the Leeds page to tell them that.}

05 Aug 2020 12:45:52
Well if anyone can get him to finally start busting a gut it's Bielsa.
Insert a buyback clause and wish him luck. Hopefully he'll develop into a complete player.

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04 Aug 2020 23:57:40
Hi Eds, first time poster but longtime reader on this site.

Do you know if the club are looking at the potential for loan signings given the current C.V. situation? We haven't really used the loan system in a while but could be a way to refresh the squad with a new face or two without committing massive financial outlays in the longterm. It could keep us ticking over until football and society gets back to a sense of normality.

Regards,

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{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely that the club will look to any sort of of refresh by selling members of the first team squad and adding players on loan.}

05 Aug 2020 10:22:00
Thanks Ed.
I was just spitballing as its been noted klopp would like Thiago. Rather than commit to years for a player of that age, loan someone of his ilk for a season. Just until the dust settles on the c. v situation then go for someone of a younger age profile.

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05 Aug 2020 12:53:57
We haven't used the loan system because we don't need to anymore.
The days of papering over cracks in the squad with temporary signings are long gone. We've got the best first team in the world and a squad that only needs a few holes plugged, and those plugs won't be loan players.
The way of things now is a long-term project with new players given time to integrate into the squad, club, city etc. Half a season or even more, so loan signings are totally the opposite of that.
Aside from all that we also have excellent youth players coming through and any loan signing who would be given minutes would only take them away from the youth players, so again, there's no need or desire for that.

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05 Aug 2020 19:15:09
@CocoKlopps A similar ilk to Thiago on loan? You aren't going to find anyone close to his ability available for loan.

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05 Aug 2020 06:21:37
Rumours of Lewis from Norwich. Thoughts all?

Personally I don't think he is good enough to push Robertson, but for a low fee as a back up i guess he is home grown and will give us more balance on that side when Robbo misses games.

I just really hope Klopp can squeeze more out of him. His performances last season were lacklustre but i guess he's still just a kid. Klopp has earned the right to sign Paul Konchesky and still have my backing!

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05 Aug 2020 06:58:44
Everyone questioned the signing of robbo and look how that turned out. The majority wanted Mendy over him.

If the club have identified him as a good option then I trust their opinion.

Plus if Larouci is an option for Norwich then knowing Edwards it’ll be a straight swap!

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05 Aug 2020 07:20:37
I really like him actually, athletic versatile and fits the HG quota I think? I no he represents NI but he’s been at Norwich for a while so I think he counts.

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{Ed002's Note - Being Home Grown is nothing to do with which country a player represents.}

05 Aug 2020 07:30:12
If him and the Algerian CB do join, perhaps Neco can have a season long loan in the championship.

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05 Aug 2020 07:50:22
Did anyone think gini or even robbo were going to be good enough when klopp wanted them? Trust the manager his track record with sigmings is pretty good, other than Karius and Shaqiri he's signed players that have all. improved under his management.

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05 Aug 2020 07:55:59
I think he would be a good signing all things considering. He is probably better than the likes of Larouci at the moment with a lot more experience. Can play in a couple of positions and is young enough to improve and become a long term first team player.

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05 Aug 2020 08:40:25
Strange one this for me if there is any truth. Problem with us signing any player as Ed keeps telling us is who will want to come to get minimal game time. Robbo doesn’t miss many games but he been playing every week for Norwich. Also why not give Larouci more game time instead of shipping him out.

Then there is the question mark is he good enough to step up to the bigger stage?

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{Ed002's Note - Yasser Larouci (LWB) Reims look to now be losing Hassane Kamara and they are starting to look for options and that includes Larouci. Brentford are expecting to lose Benrahma and want a left-sided player capable of covering the LWB and LW positions - and Larouci is a LW who has been converted to LB - and their interest is no secret. As many youngsters are doing, Larouci wants opportunities in the first team and Liverpool cannot offer that, and given a little something else going on, he may well look to options but I don't think he has asked to leave.

If Liverpool do make an offer to his club then Lewis will have to think very seriously about a move which for all intents and purposes will stall his future career as he will be simply be providing cover for PL and CL games and getting opportunities in the FA Cup.}

05 Aug 2020 08:57:19
If he's really only going to cost £10-13m then I think it'd be a decent signing. He's young, homegrown and can cover both the LB and LW positions. Room for improvement, yes, but when Robertson joined us he wasn't a world beater either, and now look at him.

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05 Aug 2020 09:03:21
I like him HMB, He is so quick and skilful and is perfect for the way we play. Robbo needs competition.

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05 Aug 2020 09:11:00
It might not happen yet as he apparently wants some assurances over game time.
If it goes through then it's a good deal for me.
We'd have to pay way over the odds for a player already at Robertson's level, so this transfer would be very clever.

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05 Aug 2020 09:42:03
Shaqiri has done nothing wrong at Liverpool other than being injured, some people!

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05 Aug 2020 09:59:42
I mean i personally championed the signing of Robertson. But i don't remember anybody wanting Wijnaldum including myself, and people even criticised the Salah signing after his perceived failure at Chelsea. Klopp does have a habit of pulling a rabbit out the hat so i will not moan too much about anybody he wants at the club. I do have my doubts over Lewis but i am not the guy who just ended a 30 year wait for the title! Interesting reading everyone's opinions though. Lots of interesting views. Cheers lads.

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05 Aug 2020 10:16:02
Robbo is streets ahead of lewis socant understand why he would want to come to Liverpool to sit on the bench, he would be better off going somewhere like leeds.

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05 Aug 2020 10:31:48
Acered, he may see it as a chance to challenge himself to see if he can go to the next level as a player at a big club under the guidance of one of the best two managers in club football. The lad (to my mind) looks a decent prospect, be a good result if we could bring him in as it would take the workload off of Robbo.

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05 Aug 2020 11:19:09
Next year the season is even more condensed. Throw in CL, FA Cup and league cup games then there could very well opportunities for Lewis to get games when we are resting Robbo. He would need to be happy knowing he’s backup to Robbo.

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05 Aug 2020 11:23:20
Fair comment 6Times i was just looking at where he would get game time now.

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05 Aug 2020 12:15:25
Im guessing the Lovren money is paying for Lewis if we get him?

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{Ed002's Note - It doesn't really work like that.}

05 Aug 2020 13:35:27
putting aside whether he is 'good enough' or the liklihood that he is coming - I don't see this as a good move for him and I don't see Norwich selling him for 10mil lol

IF he wanted to come and be an understudy, then it is just the fee. take it at 10mil, but to me that is an unrealistic figure.

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05 Aug 2020 13:54:30
If you have the attitude where you are happy to be back up we should look elsewhere.
We want players that are there to take a place in the first team through graft and their determination.
Competition breeds success in my opinion otherwise complacency creeps in.

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05 Aug 2020 19:24:00
I can't believe the defeatism of some people. Maybe he thinks that if he works hard enough, he could become better than Robbo? If he's that ambitious, then I say he's worth pursuing.

Why is everyone saying that he'd consider moving to be a backup? If he's got anything about him, he's got to believe that he can become the best in his position. And so far, at his age, and what he's already shown, maybe he can be?

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05 Aug 2020 20:47:05
Epic, he is only 22 yrs old, and already an International player, he could be joining the League Champions, and next season I think that he would get plenty of game time, so yes I agree, if he has the right mind set, it would be a win win .

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05 Aug 2020 20:48:35
also heard that Jamel has returned home early from his holiday, to see what develops, something is going on .

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