Liverpool Rumours Archive October 06 2015

 

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06 Oct 2015 22:54:20
I was just wondering If there was any talk of removing Ian Ayre from his post. I know a lot of people blame him for missing out on key players due to faffing about, they think that he should shoulder a lot of the blame that Rodgers is getting at the moment with regards to transfers.

Obviously with the changes happening at the moment, If Ayre was to go this would be time to do it.

Would someone like Zorc who Klopp works incredibly well with and actually credits Zorc with finding a lot of Dortmunds talent and negotiating with their clubs be considered?

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07 Oct 2015 00:44:09
Isn't Zorc sort of a director of football? Ayre is the CEO. Two completely different roles. One which Zorc would probably be completely unprepared for in terms of his numerous responsibilities outside of the footballing decisions.

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07 Oct 2015 02:07:50
Actually, I did hear that FSG are considerably unimpressed with Ayre at the moment. I don't think they've been impressed with his blind support for Rodgers.

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07 Oct 2015 04:45:56
What is the basis for believing Ayre "blindly" supported Rodgers?

I think the guy who should be worried about his job is Mike Edwards, given that stories are suggesting Klopp will bring his own analytics man from Dortmund.

I think it would be great to have Zorc-- as he spotted some real talent for BvV-- but do we have any evidence he'd ever leave Dortmund for Liverpool? His contract goes to 2019, and he's a lifetime BvB man.

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{Ed001's Note - Zorc has said he is happy there. Ayre was very much a Rodgers' backer in the summer.}

07 Oct 2015 07:53:02
I asked this question on Monday, Ed002 said no he is not being shown the exit door at this time.

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware, unless something has changed, Ayre's position is not currently under threat. As for Zorc, he is not a replacement for him and he is happy at Dortmund and unlikely to move anywhere.}

07 Oct 2015 12:00:26
Baz, what Zorc does at Dortmund and what Ayre does at Liverpool are two entirely different things.

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07 Oct 2015 13:23:42
hey edd i have heard on a lfc podcast that zorc contract runs out in the summer with Dortmund and liverpool will want a DOF as they wanted from the start , could be 2 + 2 = 22 but it would make sense at the least to approach zorc in the future.

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{Ed002's Note - Someone is teasing you about his contract.}

08 Oct 2015 11:49:10
Where did Sky say he's agreed a City deal? If anything they must have just regurgitated what they call gossip

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09 Oct 2015 00:10:07
I actually hear now that this may be Ayre's last season. He could be off to Standard Chartered, with FSG eyeing Nicola Cortese as his replacement.

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06 Oct 2015 22:50:31
Won't be anchilloti. SSN just confirmed not coming back until next season.

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06 Oct 2015 23:30:58
anchilloti? Have to admit i got a silly little laugh off that.

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08 Oct 2015 14:32:22
His cousin chinchilloti is still in the frame though!

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06 Oct 2015 17:35:07
Just been told press conference being arranged for tomorrow.

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06 Oct 2015 18:29:57
Surely this is too soon after 1st contact a day or 2 ago.

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07 Oct 2015 03:03:10
I bet contact was made months ago!!

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06 Oct 2015 10:49:17
These 2 comments concern me and are also why I fear a Coutinho sale soon. Ed002 is usually bang on the money!

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona has made it be known that they have an interest in Coutinho. If nothing happens to change that they will make an offer in 2016. However, do not be surprised to see circumstances change - and then we need to wait and see. To get money for June Liverpool can sell in January or sell the loan to buy players - and that is it.}


{Ed002's Note - I understand that Coutinho has said that he will leave Liverpool in the summer if they don't have Champions League football to three of his International colleagues. He is also aware of interest from Barcelona and one of the three is a Barcelona player.}

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06 Oct 2015 11:05:34
Why let it concern you? He is a great player who should be achieving great things. Nothing we can do if he wants to leave. All we can do is hope that whoever our new manager is can get LFC performing to full potential so that our best players don't want to leave. Even if he does end up leaving in January or in the summer, hopefully we will have a good enough manager in place to replace him effectively.

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06 Oct 2015 11:21:36
He is our game changer and a huge talent. More then losing a player like Countinho, I fear what is worse is that would send a clear message that we are a selling club.

I'm going to put full faith behind Klopp, if appointed, and would think top four is achievable. I'm sure having someone of Klopps stature, CL football which in its self shows progression and what future we may have. If that isn't enough for pip then we will get at leat 3 times what we paid for him. FSG have shown they'll reinvest, Klopp has shown he can buy well.

And on playground level of argument, we have Teixeria who can be as good with Klopps management and Coutinho will be bench warmer at best at Barca.

Whether it's Countiho or someone else, fact is our squad is almost all Rodgers, he bought 30 players in over three years. In three yrs time under Carlo or Klopp only a handful will be here, they'll have brought in their choices. One thing that remains throughout is the club.

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06 Oct 2015 11:26:11
I understand and agree Super. It's more the case that I don't want to lose our best player! We need him!

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06 Oct 2015 11:56:26
The Dortmund fans had the exact same conversation as this every year Klopp was there. He's an expert at coping with losing good players. I wouldn't worry when we have firmino at Liverpool anyway.

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06 Oct 2015 11:59:31
Quite simply, I agree with Coutinho, he's ambitious and we SHOULD be playing CL football every season. Our failure to do so will always cost us ambitious players. So let's try to make sure we are finishing in the top four at the very least. We have certainly let our standards slip in recent seasons

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06 Oct 2015 12:06:17
He is at the moment Bennett, but I really hope under new management (I'm not saying his name, I refuse to believe it at the moment!) that some of our current players who have previously been mismanaged can become superstars for us. By that I mean Ibe, Can, Markovic and Moreno etc. I literally cannot wait to see what Firmino can do when played in his preferred position. Don't let it get you down, let's see what happens first :-)

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06 Oct 2015 12:14:16
I'd prefer we move away from this "relying on one player" mentality and develop a squad that plays for each other.
Coutinho is far from irreplaceable. Let's get the 'team mentality' back

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06 Oct 2015 12:29:26
That's fair enough Super! Firmino is one I definitely have high hopes for!! And like you say, others may get the chance to step up to the plate as show how good they are!

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06 Oct 2015 12:48:21
I suspect if we bring in someone who inspires him and the team and we get CL he'll stay so let's not fret just yet.

I really hope whoever comes in plays Firmino and Coutinho off one another, could be dynamite with Sturridge also upfront to feed off the havoc they'd create together.

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06 Oct 2015 13:50:58
Ron is absolutely right! Coutinho is a very decent player (I'm not sure our best but very very decent) but it is a team game and reliance on one or even a few would be a worry. The other point to make is that, in certain circumstances, he can be our worst player (take this weekend for example - far from a player fit for the hassle and bustle of a derby game it seemed). Don't get me wrong I am a massive admirer like I say but this is a team game, in fact a squad game, and a manager that treats is as such, commands respect, knows how to manage personalities, etc will be the best to achieve.

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06 Oct 2015 15:36:28
Get over yaself man

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06 Oct 2015 16:49:23
I agree completely with Ron Keague.
Also, whether it's Klopp, Ancelotti or someone else, a new manager will want players who have the right mentality. Anyone who doesn't want to be at the Club isn't worth wasting time on.

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06 Oct 2015 18:44:37
For one Coutinho isn't that good and two who wouldn't want to play for Barca in that stadium with those players. Hopefully we will get an overinflated price for him. Hopefully we have learnt from many previous mistakes in wasting these huge fees.

All the best.

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06 Oct 2015 19:51:15
As Ron says he is far from irreplaceable. Apart from the odd screamer every dozen or so games what does he do any differently than lallana

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07 Oct 2015 08:16:17
Coutinho blows hot and cold while Llalana consistently under-performs for me. If we get Klopp I'd expect to see them both closer to filling their potential. They both have some serious ability in their locker but need the confidence and freedom to express it.

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08 Oct 2015 09:27:44
I said months back Coutinho would be next to go and got laughed at and had comments such as "why would we sell our best player?"
It is the model.
Buy cheap, add value, sell.

Next will be Clyne or Moreno as all other acquisitions recently we have paid over the odds for and are difficult to add value.

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06 Oct 2015 09:19:13
Ed2 have Liverpool contacted Klopp yet? There is such a media frenzy about the bloke but last I heard you say we haven't contacted him and he left the country?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Yes they have - and they have been speaking to his agent and other representative.}

06 Oct 2015 00:23:50
Hello all

I'm hearing that Klopp will work with the committee, however would also like to bring in Michael Zorc as DoF to oversee that committee as soon as possible. I'm not confident in saying that this is reliable information, but it is just what I heard.

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