Liverpool Rumours Archive July 08 2012

 

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08 Jul 2012 22:18:32
According to julio cesargard, a well informed journalist from Uruguay, Gaston Ramirez has signed for £16m. This info was released at 21.00 GMT {Ed028's Note - im hoping that this is true but ive not heard any as of now but i will defo keep everyone on the site updated as soon as i hear of anything}


Julio cesar has retweeted some info given by a fake account sly transferclockwatch. however, i do not think he would be so naive to forward such info if there was no substance. fingers crossed.


Here is exactly what he said
Bolonia ha confirmado # LFC están en conversaciones con Gastón Ramírez, este acuerdo se cerrará en una semana a menos que ...
Bolonia has confirmed, LFC are in conversation with Gastón Ramirez, this agreement will close in a week ir less. That is how I personally translated it.
Andrew


Where has he sais this?


I believe it was misinterpretted, what he actually tweeted was that dicussions have started between Bologna and LFC.


I read 16 million euro, that would be better.


I think the figure quoted was actually 16m. Hopefully this is true and we'll see more info emerge tomorrow


He's said the deal will take a week and that we are in talks from his official twitter feed


I seen that too. I hope it's right!


How much can the people reporting this be trusted?


I just said a little prayer


 

 

08 Jul 2012 22:00:25
Ed, any interest in schurrle?
Thanks
Thes - YNWA
{Ed002's Note - None that I know of from Liverpool.}


Chelsea had a bid rejected, and the player said hes staying at Leverkusen, I think Chelsea want to field 11 attackers next season, they are trying to buy every winger/striker on the planet.


Chelsea have had a 20 million euro bid turned down by leverkeusen today


 

 

08 Jul 2012 20:27:59
ed has there been any interest shown in nuri sahin from Liverpool?any updates on wether we have made a bid for ramirez?
thanks
Kevin {Ed002's Note - No to both.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 20:07:54
just seen a rumour elsewhere that liverpool have shown interest in victor moses from wigan any truth in this surely we need big name season in season out goalscorer to get the ball rolling for br {Ed002's Note - There was interest shown, yes.}


Moses was on BENITEZ sight and bid for him, he coud bought him in only 4 millions, but only becouse thouse dirty an stinky cowboys of hiklett, coudnt even given to him that money, so its not all benitez fallin the fallin started from liverpool coudnt even buy a 3 millions player, remenber conchesky, liverpool did player xchange from one of our youngster.


Moses is neither much of a goal scorer, nor is he a big name. {Ed002's Note - There are several billion Christians who would disagree.}


Ed02 you are on form!
Made me laugh anyhow
gareth


 

 

08 Jul 2012 18:24:24
Afternoon Ed, are we still showing any interest in Nolito?

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - I doubt it Chris.}


I must admit I know next to nothing about the player but I'm sure we were linked with him not so long ago

Chris in Tamworth


We were linked with him in April or early May I think. I was going to ask about him too, was in interesting prospect. Think it was restricted to rumours in Portugal though.

Teejay


 

 

08 Jul 2012 17:50:14
Eds is there still Interest in Esteban Granero He would be perfect for Brendan Rodgers system and it was reported that a bid from an English Club has been rejected in Spanish Media Could it be us? {Ed002's Note - Granero is surplus to long-term requirements in Madrid and will likely leave the summer. Granero could interest any number of clubs and may be used as a makeweight in a transfer. Only solid interest at this time has been from Blackburn Rovers and Sevilla back in January but unsubstantiated rumours have linked him to Liverpool and Espanyol as well but there is no confirmation of either clubs interest.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 17:09:11
Hi Eds,

Was there ever any strong interest in hoilett and if so why have we not followed it up?

Surely he would be a better alternative to sturridge if interest is genuine and we would use him out wide.

He looked better last year and is free.

Anfield719 {Ed002's Note - I don't know of any confirmed interest from Liverpool.}


Wow he's free, he's willing to play for nothing? Hold the back pages, a footballer willing to play for nothing!

Firstly Blackburn will be due compensation because he is under 24. A couple of million.

Secondly Newcastle are believed to have turned him down at £50,000 a week, which is more than we reportedly offered Sigurdsson.

We're trying to reduce wage bills not offer one season wonders their fortune. You play well elsewhere then you get your move to Liverpool and a little more money, you then play well for us your wage will increase accordingly.

I don't want to see any more players thinking they've made it by signing their name on a monster contract at a big club.


Anyone would be a better alternative to sturridge


 

 

08 Jul 2012 17:08:03
today i have met my trusted source , then he said we will try to sign brek shea from fc dallas..


Is your trusted source a crystal ball by any chance!


Is your trusted source from the past?


Is your trusted source red source or brown source


More likely sweet and sour or something just as unlikely.


Next time you meet him throw him a few slaps and tell him your uncle TAYPOT sent him that

TAYPOT


 

 

08 Jul 2012 17:07:21
Eds, Any truth to this Clint Dempsey to liverpool rumor? {Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}


Think its getting close this deal,i think he will come but i don't think hes all that either,nothing special in my eyes .


Ain't gonna happen, he's too old.


This rumour puts me off. never liked this guy and will never gonna like him ever. hope and pray that we do not sign him.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 16:59:04
Brendan has an interest in highly rated 21 year old antoinne greizmann for around 13 mil.. Must say im a massive brendan fan.. And as soon as KD was sacked brendan was the first man i wanted but im not liking the transfer market activity i would really like to see sime fresh new lads in the camp... Johnthered {Ed002's Note - This would be an alternative to Ramirez I presume.}


This kid is meant to be shhh hot ,bet you he would only cost half the value of gaston ramirez aswell


And yet Ramirez is a better techinical player


 

 

08 Jul 2012 16:33:49
according to caughtoffside were after griezman any truth ed? {Ed002's Note - Athletico Madrid, Valencia, Marseille and Lyon have shown some interest in Griezmann in the recent past and repordedly Barcelona tool a look at one time, but there is nothing of note right now. The kid has said that he has no plans to leave Spain this summer.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 16:25:07
Hey ed, search button won't work for me! (I'm on the phone) so would you mind explaining the Ramirez situation please?
Thanks

Irish Redman {Ed002's Note - As I have said previously Gaston Ramirez has been watched by Liverpool but I still remain unsure as to how strong the interest is from the club but would not be at all surprised if a push was made to sign him particularly if someone leaves Liverpool. Ramirez was available in January for about 15M euro plus a signing on fee - but Liverpool did not follow up on their initial interest after having the player watched. Bologna will not now listen to offers less than 20M euros. However, it remains most likely that Ramirez will move in the summer with interest being shown by Napoli, Wolfsburg, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, Palermo and Juventus, who have made a firm offer. Unsubstantiated rumours suggest Manchester United, Spurs, Barcelona and Real Madrid are also interested. Sevilla were interested but I understand that Ramirez has no interest in such a move. Discussions have taken place between Bologna and Manchester City, Napoli and Juventus. The talks with Juventus do continue and after Wolfsburg met with the player's agent talks are now being organised between Bologna and Wolfsburg. Gaston Ramirez's agent Pablo Betancourt has now also made it clear that Juventus and Wolfsburg are interested in his client and that he knows of no on going interest in the player from other Italian clubs.}


Lucus is ok finish 7th the season before woop woop just don't think he would get into a top 4 team at times his passing is shocking and most people hate him a few years ago just not as good as the players he has replaced not his fault


Another one bites the dust


Hey ed, arms button won't work for me! (I'm on the couch) so would you mind passing me a jaffa cake please?
Thanks g {Ed002's Note - Sure man but they eventually lead to HAS - so be careful.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 16:07:59
Edds, any chance of xavi? Please reply edd002 I think your really good wiv your general knowledge, peace {Ed002's Note - I would doubt it this year.}


General knowledge?? Is this mastermind


Could he be an option in the future? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea of the transfers that will be taking place in years to come. Personally, it seems doubtful.}


Ah seriously!! are yee for real,,,xavi,,,,on what planet would he be going to liverpool


Going to have to assume they meant Xabi. Can't understand why they'd even ask otherwise.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 15:41:51
Ed, Any truth in the rumours that we have bid for Joe Allen? I heard we have offered 7 million + Shelvey on a season long loan and Sterling will go on loan there in January. {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}


It's going from bad to worse I'm afraid.


Where's that rumour come from??


I heard this rumour myself. We have to wait until Sterling is 17 to send him on loan. But Swansea are keen on the 2 players.


Please no terrible move swap a better player for an average Allen for the season.


If this is true it really shows where we are as a club.


{Ed028's Note - People do not know anything about football if they think Allen is average..they need to go and watch him play! hes a quality player & is nothing less than gifted.}

I think the above comment from Ed applies to you delusional folk.

On another note, the original post would be extremely unlikely. For one, we have made an agreement to not sign a player from Swansea this year. Although it doesn't appear to be contracted, I would surprised if Rodgers broke his word. To couple that, the FA would have to make an exception to the rule that no more than one player can be signed on loan from the same club. The chance of either happening is slim, but both? Nahhhh!

100% Cotton {Ed028's Note I never said we could buy swansea players im well aware of the 12 month agreement...im just expressing the fact that Allen is a great player and people are saying hes not upto "Liverpool standards" when infact hes the kind of midfielder any team would feel privileged to have playing for them.}


If Shelvey goes on season long loan then sterling cannot also go on loan there in January.


Ppl should listen to sly news. Brendan Rodgers is not allowed to sign any Swansea player this summer, he can talk to Swansea's chairman about his players and maybe agree a pre-contractual agreement but he is definately not allowed to sign any players from Swansea.


I never suggested that you said anything about the 12 month agreement. I used your statement to show the other posters that the Ed's (whose opinion's are the thing everyone's here for) believe Allen to be a quality player. The rest of my post was a separate note, unrelated to your statement.

100% Cotton.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 15:31:13
my father is a good friend of conor coady's father. He told me that there is no confirmed offer for ramirez. He will join german side wolfsburg...


1st Pacheco, now Coady's spilling the beans... BR has announced his transfer targets to his players!.....I Very much doubt it !!


Even if this was true, it's unlikely that even gerrard would know this information let alone coady!

Rodgers likes to keep things close to his chest, meaning minimal people will know about his transfer dealings in order to keep them quiet, that's why the media have resorted to guesswork and linking is to every player under the sun.

Andy


Ramirez doesn't want to go to Germany


Bologna rejected Wolfsburg's bid...
Stop lying.


How would conor coady know about the transfers none of the players do


Since when did the club start informing Connor coadys dad of potential transfer targets?


 

 

08 Jul 2012 14:48:35
Hi eds do you know of any deals on the table as its getting boring all the made up ones posted on here ?

Think we look strong at the back and need to tie skrtel and agger up with new deal plus we have a lot of younger players coming as cover Kelly , Wilson , coates etc

Centre mid is over run but think lacks a hard tackling holding midfielder to break up play as i think Lucas is well over rated
In this role

Defo need a forward as we would have finished 5/6 last season if we could but the ball in the goal

Wide players are a must as maxi and downing are our 1st choice wingers shocking think a move for adam Johnson would be good and can this Ramirez play wide as I said before we over run with cm/am players ?


Cheers redweedon {Ed002's Note - We are not hiding anything from you - at least not at the moment.}


Haha, nice answer ed002.


Lucas is in no way overated, we fell apart after we lost him last year. All we need is a winger and a striker, borini and ramirez would suit me fine. The youth is exceptional and desires a chance to strut there stuff this year. Only youth system better than ours is Barca's


Would you class Ramirez as a winger then ? Ramirez , a Johnson and a forward would be a good start then not sure on borini
Plus a hard tackling centre mid as spearing is not good enough back up to Lucas then

Red weedon {Ed042's Note - he's an attacking midfielder, which can cover a wide range of positions.}


How many times Borini isnt coming!!!!


Lucas Over rated? Look at the tackling stats, and the obvious stat that we went downhill when he got injured. Maxi was never first choice winger and didnt feature as much as he should, when he played he generally did very well.. Ramirez can also play LW, but played most the season just behind the striker


But I do think m krasic on the right and afelley left would be good buys to both around 7m

Krasic looked a great player before he went to Italy made a fresh start would be good for him
Afelley had a poor euros but I've seen him play for Barcelona a few times and he looked good ripped real m apart when he came off the bench in one game

Red weedon


I'm a Liverpool fan, but the Southampton youth system is consistently better than ours


That is the beauty of Lucas, he doesn't need to take players out to win the ball.


Okay officially disgusted ! LUCAS OVERATED!
Im devastated, the guy is a rock and amazing. If he wasn't injured, player of the season with out a doubt!

LFCHero :)!


I dont understand how yoy can say lucas is overrated then say a move for adam johnson would be good johnsons the most overrated and inconsistant player in the premier legue....your clearly just a match of the day supporter!


Lucas over rated! are you mad? before his injury was our best player, and was in the form of his life, i agree we are desperate for some more creativity from the midfield as well as goals and another out and out goalscorer is a must

mickey red blood


My football manager ray woods, former Wigan player says that the Crewe youth team is by far the best and have made some of the best players eg.danny murphy and unites new signing!


Hey Eds, any chance you can tell if a person is a fool, troll or blind from their IP address? Over rated Lucas? The OP owes me a new keyboard as it's now covered in beer


Its allright saying were overun in cm but adam and spearing arent good enough and shelvey and henderson need a few more years before they can become 1st team so if you think about it we really only have gerrard and lucas who are any good and they were both injured for a lot of last year


90% of Liverpool fans + Lucas = red tinted glasses!


 

 

08 Jul 2012 14:44:49
Met Dani Pacheco in town yesterday, asked him whether he was going to to be at liverpool next year. he said that he will have a think in pre season+ he also told me daniel sturridge and adam johnson will be liverpool players soon:-)


I would imagine Pacheco will now be sacked for telling a total stranger such private LFC information........OR you are talking balls.


Really?!
These posts are getting worse. {Ed002's Note - Actually these are some of the best today.}


He's only been back in liverpool a week he's like sherlock holmes that lad he has found out br's transfer plans all ready i think br should start locking the office door lol all these players that know who is coming in and who is leaving


Yeah right belive that (not)


He might be talking you know what but I bet they are not far wrong


I think these moves can be very possible both players could be acquired by LFC but dont dont like adam johnson that much so hopefully its half true :)


I'm sure that Dani Pacheo will appreciate you lending his name to your rumour.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 13:52:23
Hi eds....am I wrong in thinking Borini just signed for Roma, after the blind bid took place, and also said he wasn't interested in moving but wanted to stay at Roma?
Kabir {Ed028's Note - Hes on loan atm}


Seen as the ED hasn't answered your question right,Yes Roma have now bought the full rights for Borini and yes Borini did say that he wasnt interested in a move anywhere .getting fed up of hearing about Borini now,,,,,,, HE ISN'T COMING!


He's not on loan Ed, he left Chelsea at the end of his contract to sign a co-ownership deal with Parma and Roma, and Roma have recently purchased Parma's share of his contract so his 100% a Roma player.

DP


 

 

08 Jul 2012 13:49:12
Ed's what strikers are we actually linked with, and which ones, are we atcually interested in?

Youthy {Ed028's Note - nothing has been clarified but theres interest around sturridge at the moment}


All the rubbish 1s


 

 

08 Jul 2012 13:35:20
i have heard from the source i trust , liverpool will bid for safee sali.


Malaysia Boleh!


 

 

08 Jul 2012 13:18:00
EDs, just after BR was appointed, there was talks of Xavi Vallero coming back as GK coach, have you heard anything more on that? He was fantastic, with Torres and Reina putting their performances down to his help and knowledge {Ed002's Note - Nothing.}


I believe that this would be the right move to bring the best out of Pepe again for next season.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 13:00:29
hey eds i hear all these rumours about attacking players coming in surely we must be looking at cover for cb with carragher past it and agger and skrtel a bit injury prone what do u think? {Ed002's Note - Wilson, Kelly, Coates?}


Im sorry but wilson is not good enough, even for blackpool.RedTurk


Id rather play Andre wisdom then Wilson!


If there was going to be a defender i think it would most likely be cover for LB. Coates is rated very highly so doubt they would buy another centre back.
Irving4


{Ed002's Note - Wilson, Kelly, Coates?}

Is Wilson really good enough, and how many times has Kelly played centre half at first team level.
Kelly's also injury prone.

......then there was one.


They will not all be out at the same time u silly billy...carra, coats, Kelly, Wilson an flanno if need be i think we are O.K


Dont forget young sama and wisdom who is built like a brick wall


Have any of you internet warriors actually seen Wilson play many games? I'd rather you gave the lad at least a small chance before writing him off. Wasn't he one of Rafa's last hurrahs? Look at what happened to the last one you all ripped on. Now you all can't wait for Lucas to get back to the first team.


Dont forget Robinson, and Carra started on the sides before he moved into the middle just like Kelly is doing.
Andrew


We need another cb of the quality of Skrtel and Agger so that when the injuries come we are never compromised in this area. Otherwise we'll be in trouble. We have a lot of experience in other positions, but we need more here. "What about Carra?" I am of the opinion, as much as I love him, that Carra is past it.
SuperDuperSuarez


How about stefen de vrij of feyenoord?


I agree; you cannot go into the system with three largely untested reserve centrebacks and one who is fading very very quickly. So, BR needs either to be confident that two of them are good enough or an addition to the squad is needed. {Ed002's Note - So you would buy a 7th centreback?


Skrtel injury prone? He's only missed 11 games in past 2 seasons. Could do with another prospect at CB though. Kelly will be used as cover at right back whilst Wilson is still lacking much experience.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 12:28:25
Following his breakthrough Euro 2012 tournament, Alan Dzagoev is hot on new Liverpool manager Brendan Rogers' mind, with Liverpool ready to offer a £15M offer for the Russian attacking midfielder, plus £3M extra in bonuses, amassing a total possible £18M transfer deal.

Rogers is reportedly keen to add to Liverpool's attacking options, particularly those that can double in midfield, following the departure of Dirk Kuyt to Fenerbahce.

CSKA have attatched an asking price of £13M to the young Russian, however Liverpool want to wrap the deal off as soon as possible, following mass interest in the CSKA Moskow player. {Ed002's Note - Seems a lot for a player out of contract in December. He would require a significant signing on fee.}


Whos twitter was this taken from?


Your another guy who actually thinks your BR ! so your sharing more of this fantacy garbage with us , i read better ones if im honest , so wake up fella , yea , oh and keep taking the meds as u obvioulsy need them !!


Hes not even that good this Russian lad,how many Russians have come out of the Russian league and been really good.just look at Arshavin, pavlichenko ect


Ed, I believe according to his Father he has signed a new contract with CSKA, therefore will not be free in December. But also believe he is open to a move.

Orrin


So let me get this right they want 13 mill usually you barter em down but we offer more ...now thats clever !!


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:34:14
I would be satisfied with Allen as a Liverpool player as hes a classy player with real potenital to hit the ground running. However I would be sceptical if borini were to sign as I believe we will only sign one striker and it was evident last season that we needed a proven finisher'. Borini is a young striker who has done well in the Italian league(aquaman league) and has real potential for the future. We need a striker that will hit the ground running next season,simple as that or I believe it will be a top six fight. It will take us a few seasons to get where we need to be but what will bemuse me again is that if Liverpool do not yet again correct a vital position when there are I' believe better proven strikers out there for us. I have faith in BR,however I hope for once' that macca is inaccurate or that borini deal does not happen. let me make it clear that we havent made a formal bid so its not really a possibility atm.' as always have faith'

Melbourne'


You always have faith?

Then why don't you try having faith in Andy Carroll?

Stone YNWA.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:49:29
I live in South Wales and work in Swansea but I am Liverpool through and through thanks to the Scouse half of my family (apart from a few Bluenoses!)

I can tell you all that Joe Allen is very happy at Swansea and has no interest in leaving. Allen is a good young player and is very highly rated here in Wales and good things are expected of him in the future. Allen was upset at the departure of Rodgers but on the other hand is delighted that Laudrup is manager and really wants to stay and work under him.

Last week, Rodgers confirmed the agreement between Swansea and Liverpool in regards to not signing any Swansea players. Rodgers also stated that he would speak to Huw Jenkins should a player become available. Joe Allen is not available however and will not put in a transfer request to leave the club. There are however two other players Rodgers would go for should they become available, Scott Sinclair and Neil Taylor. Sinclair is currently mulling over a new contract and Rodgers convinced Taylor to stay at the Liberty last season despite bids from Newcastle. Taylor would be a good back-up option to Jose Enrique and wouldn't cost much.

Liverpool-Welsh Red


And if liverpool came calling he still would want to stay at swansea despite the extra money and recognition he could get at international level?


If Rodgers wants him, Allen will sign for Liverpool.


How many times...there was a clause in Brendan's contract telling him he could not sign any of Swansea's players for a season.(a gentle mans agreement ),get it in to your heads Allen isn't coming and as for borini that isn't happening either!


To the above poster, a "gentlemans agreement" is not a clause.


Scouse family - that's what they all claim.


I think rodger is unable to attract players and is desperate to get allen. however, i believe we should respect the gentleman agreement.


Does it matter if it was a clause or a gentleman's agreement the lad aint coming its simple as that as it stated that LIVERPOOL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SIGN ANY OF SWANSEA'S PLAYERS.whats so hard to understand!!!


I've got to be honest I'll believe Macca over anyone else on this site, especially people who claim to have knowledge just because they are from the same city

Siggle


Not strictly true, yes a gentlemans agreement was made and yes you'd expect that to be honoured but there's technically nothing stopping us signing Swansea players if the deal is agreed and suits both clubs, second to that, if macca says Allen is a target then I for one believe him as he seems to have a very credible source

Andy {Ed002's Note - Not honouring an agreement will just see the reputation go further down the pan.}


Ed002, I guess that depends on whether the deal suits swansea, if Allen gets in a position where he wants to leave then I can't see Swansea refusing to deal with us because of a gentlemans agreement, they'd be cutting off their own nose to spite their face. It might come down to whether Allen liked playing for Swansea or Brendan Rodgers.

Andy


He cant sign a swansea player {Ed042's Note - technically he can}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:41:13
Football Italia is reporting that AC Milan have enquired about taking Andy Carroll on loan. Surely this is a joke eds?

Mighty reds {Ed002's Note - Sounds like something you might hear on Twitter.}


More like to buy, they are looking for a replacement for ibrahimovic and see carroll as the one to fill his boots as a back up and then to take over. I hope they put in a bid between £15-25 million, i would personally sell, he is never going to suit pass and move.RedTurk


You gotta laugh..Cheeky blighters.
CR


I have this feeling AC wouldn't succeed on the Continent.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:37:54
why is everyone critsizing rodgers apperently getting allen he is young good time for improvement he got in the olympic squad he had one of the best passing completations in europe and everyone saying teams going after bigger targets not being funny tottenham have been linked with him aswell so.. ed do you agree? {Ed028's Note - People do not know anything about football if they think Allen is average..they need to go and watch him play! hes a quality player & is nothing less than gifted.}


Their is no doubt he is an excellent player. He actually plays like a Spanish midfielder which is a bit strange and similar to wilshere but the price will be crazy and it isn't a position we need to strengthen. I think we need a creative midfielder like Ramirez.


Totally agree mate it seems fans are more attracted by the foreign name these days. Joe Allen is quality he's so dynamic, moves the ball better than most, breaks attack up well and gets you from box to box very quickly. He's a midfielder that offers everything and at the prices would represent much better value than a foreign equivalent of that age.


Ed shut up we don't need players with ability we need proven quality. No one is questioning whether he has potential, same as Henderson. We cannot afford another player who may come good, tiresome now.


Tiresome ? So are comments like yours deriding young players.


Joe Allen is class. He is not in the same tier as Henderson. He is above. He is faster, works harder than even Kuyt and he has amazing dribbling and passing ability. He will definitely make the difference if he joins us. The problem is our midfield is already full. We need winger(s) and a striker first and foremost.


Comment of the week from the above poster!

"Ed shut up we don't need players with ability..."

You sure mate? I think you need to look up the definition of ability

Joe


Where does ed028 say allen has potential, he's further on than potential, he could slot straight in to liverpools team and do a fantastic job.

watching allen last season for swansea, he controls games, everything went through allen and leon britton. henderson goes missing in games, quite often it's easy to forget he is on the pitch. allen is far superior to henderson at this moment in time so i fully back ed028, allen already is quality, just because his name isn't xavi or messi he gets dismissed.

andy {ed028's note - im all for allen. hes a star player and hes young too! hes gifted in his position he can create play from the centre of the park and i never said he had potential...hes got more than potential from what ive seen he'd make an impact in any team thats a fact.}


I think he is very similar to Iniesta. he presses and takes the ball off players like Lucas or Iniesta does and when with the ball he is fast, great ball control skills so can dribble excellent and wonderful awareness.


I thought we were not allowed to buy any Swansea players. How can we buy Allen? Eds, please shed some light. If we do buy Allen, does it mean we're not going for Gaston Ramirez?

SUMON VAI {Ed002's Note - I have explained my views on the matter.}


Haha some of you fans are deluded. " A fantastic player" etc. Okay when we are midtable again next year and your all wondering why just look at the transfers. Moranic some of you rose tinted morons.


Hi ed028,

I miss read the poster who told you to shut up, I thought they'd put 'we don't need players with potential' where in fact even weirder they put 'we don't need players with ability' lol anyway I agree with you, I believe Allen is better on the ball than any of our current midfield and I include gerrard in that, he just needs to increase his goal scoring which currently makes gerrard a better all round player at the min.

Andy {Ed028's Note - We cant sign swansea players yes & people say stuff they know nothing about half the people havent seen him play and thats a fact}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:22:48
Hey eds, just to clarify, what's happening with Suarez. Is he signing a new contract or what? Much appreciated. YNWA {Ed002's Note - He is no doubt concentrating on his Olympic commitments right now. Rodgers says he is hopeful that Suarez will sign a new deal. There remains interest in him from several clubs.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:11:24
Not being funny but you can see what sort of team we have become when we are looking to sign Allen and Borini.
When you consider other teams targets, Spurs targets are the likes of Lloris, Moutinho, Oscer.
Arsenal already have Podolski and Giroud along with being linked with M'villa.
Chelsea well don't need to say who they have got same as city, and Utd have Kagawa and powell and after the likes of Modric.
Just don't see us getting top four with very average players like Allen?
And don't bother saying go support them teams instead then because i am LFC trough and through i just hate to see us plummeting even more down the table!


Spot on mate, feel exactly the same its worrying!


Kagawa and powell behave there average players with no PL experience id take allen over either of them he fits the system E.P.G.


I watched a bit of Swansea last season and think he is better than average, better than Adem for instance. But he is young and has potential. For me I would rather have a consistent performer who works hard and passes well in the team for the moment. He wouldn't cost the world and stability is needed now. Inconstancy was a major downfall last season. So he might not blow me away but in a frugal business model could make sense. Remember we were not that far away from being good last season. The Borini thing I'm not that sure of, we do desperately need goals.


This post just shows how ignorant some fans are nowadays. You're assuming because allen plays for swansea he isn't good enough? If you've every watched him play, he's got a hell of a lot of potential and would slot in nicely alongside gerrard and lucas. He's miles better than hendo and adam. We can't compete for the likes of kagawa modric etc. so stop your moaning. Borini is decent as well.

Amz


If you think Allen is average you clearly didnt watch Swansea last year. The boy is a real star. Keeps the ball well and his passing is better then anyone else un the prem. if u would prefer to buy players because the media make them "stars" then support someone else. A lot ofte players you have spoken about are unproven in the prem. Podolski failed at Bayern Munich and was woeful at the euros. Lloris why would u want us to be linked with him, we have Reina who is better. Powell is young and cant even be compared to Allen. Allen did it in the prem, Powell at a lower league! Try watching and understand football rather then wishing we splashed 30-40m on players that the meia tell us are amazing


Not being funny but have you ever seen Allen play? Full of energy, can attack, defend, pass, shoot, very skillful and most importantly can play the system Rodgers want. Not seen Borini play, so I will not comment on him, but Allen is just a class act. {Ed028's Note - Great post hate seeing people think they know everything about football when they know nothing , watch allen play then try to say hes average.}


Yes it seems another disappointing Summer.
BR thinks Borini and Allen are players that can improve the Group of players at the club and splash 20M for Borini and 15M for Allen at the end.

When there are players of quality like Ramirez, De Jong available for far less money. Once again it seems like we going for medicore players and paying transfer fees above their valuation.

Talking about player valuation I think the risk in paying 20M for Gaston Ramirez and 15M for De Jong is far less than paying 20M for Borini and 15M for Allen.

See what happened with CArroll and Downing, if we bought Falcao and Mata
instead... don't say they were not affordable and not willing to come, MAta was willing and if Atletico is tempting to Falcao so was Liverpool two team not playing in UCL but Liverpool with a new exiting project.

WE have fallen behind very much...
Shame

Worried Red


Mentioned this many times now, but Allen had the best passing accuracy in Europe in Jan, higher pass completion rate than Xavi and iniesta,(this is no fluke) so yes I could understand why someone would worry for his club, but without having a clue what you are worrying about in the first place does not make you a bad fan just lazy and a bit ignorant.
Davey Liver


Padolski didnt fail at bayern! he fell out with the boss. allen could be a flash in the pan like adam and borini well none of you have heard of him til last week.. let mid tae coz we cant sign tthe top players anymore


Average players like allen?? what! youve listed players like giroud, hes average. yes he can score in the french league but the bpl is a big step up.powell, surely hes like allen a quality young talent just unlike allen not proven in the higest league. think you need to take your tablets lad


And as for podolski if he was that good why isn't he still at bayern?


Didn't Borini get in the Italian squad that got to the euro final that must say something. Also that is only two targets we are after. Also Joe Allen is a great prospect.

Mighty reds


Have you even seen allen play or is it just because hes from swansea you assume hes bad?


Allen is a player wit a bit of quality his ball retention is comparable to the best, he help make leon britton into one of the most effective mifielders worldwide last season i think hes better then henderson and adam and borini has got good potential hes already played at international level and will probably lead the line with balotelli at the next world cup for italy, as for the targets of other clubs they have more on offer like champions league football and in some cases money, we havent been in the top 4 for three years now so we have to be realistic in selecting younger players with potential who will hopefully fulfill it and flourish while at the club rather then so called experienced players like adam and downing who failed to cope and have little to no resale value, until we compete at the top levl angain it will be hard to compete for the top players its unfortunate but its the reality


Allen isn't average to be fair. And Borini was highly thought of at Chelsea. They are both young which fits the policy, and both have talent and potential. Personally, I'd be happy with these two signings.

KingHeskey


Oh do one, no one had heard of giroud before the end of last season and now that he's banged in a few goals for a team in an average French league he's suddenly the sought of player we should be going after? Chamakh was banging them in left right and centre and where is he now? And as for podolski


Why is everybody assuming Allen is world beater? I guarantee you idiots would say he isn't very good if he opted for another club. We all said the same about Henderson and Adam last year but oh no Allen is definitely better. Fans have a right to be concerned when other clubs are snatching better players around us.
No one is doubting Allen as a talent but he is not proven and we need proven quality.


I think that Allen is above average. however I also think that realistically we are now in a position where we have to choose players that will blend together as a team, and not choose them for their name. The manager then has to motivate them to play above themselves to qualify for the Champions league so that we can then start to attract top players to qualify for the European league regularly again. There is a lot on Brendon's shoulders this year.


Have you ever seen borini and allen play, i have seen allen and he is class, i havent seen borini play but he was in the euro squad


Borini in the Italy squad? So was downing and Henderson and they are pants. So put that laughable argument to bed.


If you didnt know he is italian and hendo and downing are english, italy came to the final with strikers as balotelli, di natale and cassano


Last year we compared charlie adam with alonso. he cud not deliver as much as he did in blackpool. joe allen is good, but again not a solution to our problem. apparently we have missed out on gaston ramirez and we could not agree a fee for gilfy, hence we are opting a cheaper alternative. if allen was so good, why dont you see the top four/five teams chasing him? honestly the new yanks are not showing anything to make us believe that they are any better than hicks and gillet.


Don't forget you knockers. Adam and Henderson had very good seasons with their previous clubs.Their form/confidence waned here at LFC. Maybe with a new manager and coaching staff they will show the form they had earlier.


Idiot.
Joe Allen is class. Proper footballer who looks after the ball and also happens to be an athlete.
Have you even watched him play apart from when Liverpool played Swansea? (when he was brilliant by the way)

You seem concerned at the players other teams have signed - none of them are guaranteed to be a success. Podolski has tried and failed at a big club, and looked average at the Euro's.
Giroud has had one good season in a poor league (Chamakh and Gervinho had similar records)

Kagawa looks quality, can't deny it. Powell is one for the future and we've got our own starlets in the academy.

Chelsea have made some big signings and are my bet for the title.
IF Hazard can reproduce his Lille form in the premier league then he's got the potential to be world class. But asking why we aren't signing players of this ilk is a fruitless task. Champions league, salary and fee are 3 quick and obvious answers.

I don't know how other people judge a players ability, but clearly you were watching a different Joe Allen to me last season. Just because he's not Spanish or South American doesn't make him any less talented.

Football snobbery pisses me off but unfortunately a lot of fans on here are guilty of it.

Joe


Spurs might be after lloris, moutinho and oscar ... Oscar?? Have you ever seen him play? Have you any idea at all whether he'll be a hit in the premierleague? Is he proven at this level?

What is the problem ? Allen, is he proven at this level? Certainly! Is he any good? Without a shadow of doubt. Lloris - do we need him? Moutinho - apart from football manager - is he better than allen? Doubt it - not certain at all.

Anyway - allen is a no go. Then what about arsenals signings.... Podolski. Is he proven? Did he play a smashing Euro 12? Did he succeed at Bayern, the only big club he have been at? Is he maybe like Charlie Adam, someone who can only do it in a team where he is the main man ? Likely - we can't know for sure.

Get real dude. Honestly - i'd prefer allen to moutinho, oscar and podolski. Just a shame we won't get him.

M'vila is a gem - i give you that. But at what price? Giroud could be decent - he scored his fair few of goals. But he still got to prove he wont be another bendtner og chamakh. However, i think he'll de quite well.

But stop being one of those who always wants what you cannot get - stop only beliving in players linked to other clubs - just because man utd, arsenal, spurs, chelsea wan't a player - doesn't makes it a good one - think if kleberson, andre santos, bebe, djemba djemba, obi mikel, michael woods, mertesacker, park, jenkinson, boateng, rebrov, parker (to chelsea), berbatov (to united), crespo + sheva (real flops), veron (to both man utd and chelsea), torres (to chelsea), benayoun (to chelsea), meireles (to chelsea), benayoun (to arsenal), obertan and the list goes on


Stats mean nothing we signed Downing and Henderson reading to much into statistics. And comparing Allen to Xavi just makes me giggle how fickle you are Allen can only pass backwards would suit Houliers team back in the day but not now. Xavi can pass anywere on the pitch enough said.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 11:05:18
If liverpool are aiming for players like Joe Allen and Borini then i give rodgers 6 months before he is sacked. No way Borini is good enough and Allen should never be signed as liverpool should stick to the agreement made with swansea. I do not think that any of these players could improve the team we already have.


Don't really know how you can make such a dismissive judgement about Borini and Allen? Whether a player is good enough depends on where and how he plays within the team as a whole. Like many on this site, you seem to want to embrace only big name (and relatedly, over-priced big names)? When we bought the likes of Jimmy Case and Ray Kennedy they weren't big names but their contribution to our glory years is legend. Lesson....look beyond the Big Name and hype factors to see what players can really offer to the team.


Oh dear. Another idiot.


Allen is a good player and proved that last season at Swansea


Why dont you just wait and see what happens and get behind him instead of talk trash!


So Rodgers finished 11th with a team of 'less than average players' which is only 3 places behind where we finish. The key to Rodgers is he gets players playing well together, so technically it shouldn't matter who they are as long as they fit the mould. Having a big name player means your team try target everything around giving the ball to them, which was the problem with having Gerrard and Suarez last year, everything was determined by getting the ball to them. If we have 11 players who know a specific system of play and work well together then what can go wrong? Also, if you think Joe Allen is a very average player - purely based on the fact that he's rated 73 on fifa and/or played for Swansea last year - then you want to take a long hard look at some videos of him playing. He's quick, he's agile, plays good balls, and already knows the sort of system of play that BR is going to implement. So get a clue and stop hoping for the likes of Cavani, Rooney, Ibrahimovic and Messi to be in posts on these forums...


What is it about some of our fans lately? Are we expected to go out and fill a squad with world beaters? Allen is a quality player. Not seen Borini much but what do you expect us to do. I hate to say what gets said a lot but this is not fifa, championship manager or fantasy football. I wish some of these fans were around in the eighties when players like Aldridge, Venison, Houghton, Nicol etc etc etc were signed from teams like Oxford, Sunderland, Notts County. If the forums and 24 hour press were around then people like the OP would have been in uproar, the players would either not get signed or get slated to death on threads and the pitch. Oh how we have changed :(


Agree pal we are linked with such average players yet again all the people that say u know nothing about footy cuz Allen has bags of potential pfff lol funny how none over the other top sides are in for him...


Henderson was a good player proved it two seasons ago but this season didn't live up to potential.


And this post is exactly why Brendan Rodgers is the manager of Liverpool and you are sitting at home, playing champ manager thinking you at the nextjose mourinho, do us all a favour and keep your "opinions" to yourself, or go and import everton, I'm fine with either to be honest.


You're obviously basing your judgements on player ratings from FIFA 12 and PES.

Unless you have actually seen either of these players in action, it's better to say nothing and have people think you're an person than to open your mouth and prove them right.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 10:54:47
Hey Eds, any interest in Josep Illicic? {Ed002's Note - Both Milan clubs and Juventus have an interest in Ilicic but Inter are favourites if he does come up for sale this summer, which I doubt. England seems a unlikely destination although Chelsea, Liverpool and Aston Villa have looked at the player in the past.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 10:37:55
Ed 002 the Borini rumours are gathering pace and I have to say they dont fill me with excitement, which is abit harsh as I don't know anything about him really. Can I ask how he was thought of at Chelsea and would you see him as an upgrade on what we have already as his stats seem less than prolific? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - He was well thought of at Chelsea and much was expected. However, like many youngsters he wanted too much too soon and wanted the club to provide guarantees of first team football and that led to his discussions with Parma and his loan to Swansea. Like most clubs Chelsea were not going to give any guarantees and at the end of his contract Borini made the move to Italy. As for his "stats" I have not looked at them but they should detract from how well he did as a youngster in the youth set up and in the reserves. Rodgers knows the kid well and what can be expected of him. My only thought would be around whether or not Borini would want to return to England so soon.}


I said when we 1st showed any interest in him he is average at best,average players = average team,we need to be looking at better than this to een think about top 6 never mind top 4 ,we ae falling a bit short every season,quality is what we need,i to am unsure about BR,if we dont hit the ground running we wont catch anyone above us because the quality wont be there.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 10:33:34
If the latest is that we are making inquiries for Allen,......... then surely that means the interest has waned for Ramirez. (hopefully not though) I am also reading that Aqua is staying! With Adam staying on and maybe Cole, then our midfield is getting a little clogged up.

Its all getting a bit confusing. Sounds like nobody REALLY knows what they are talking about...Including me, HAHA.

I am looking forward to this week and hopefully a new signing or 2.


Please no Joe Allen really!? G ramirez is who we need not a player like Allen who is no where near as good as even Henderson...


Ramirez could play as a right-sided forward


They are 2 completely different players so why would getting one of them signal no interest in the other?


Ramirez and Allen play in different positions mate.


Why not both? Remirez is more of an attacking player no?


That's because nobody does know what they're talking about. Very little gets out of that club regarding our transfer activity and 99% of what you hear is speculation.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 10:18:07
Hi Eds
Talk of Krasic has gone a bit quiet. What's the latest ?
Redman {Ed002's Note - THis will likely drag on. Juventus are open to offers for Krasic and Joksimovic has been trying to get as many clubs as possible interested including Lazio, Liverpool and Spurs - and he has had success with all three showing interest. Borussia Dortmund, Marseille, West Ham, Villarreal, Sevilla, Zenit St Petersburg, Fenerbahce and Anzhi Makhachkala have a confirmed interest in the player although I suspect Dortmund will drop their interest. Marseille would take him on loan but I doubt that would suit Juventus. Liverpool, Lazio and Fenerbahce strike me as the most likely destinations for him right now but perhaps by tomorrow it will be Zenit best placed.}


Read yesterday Joksimovic's interview for a Serbian site, Krasic is interested only in England, Germany or Spain, no Russia, no Turkey. If he doesn't sign for a team from these 3 countries, he's staying in Juventus.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 10:00:58
Eds Whats the latest on Dempsey I read in the Mirror were offering 6? {Ed002's Note - Dempsey will come up for sale there will certainly be interest from Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and a couple of German sides. Age and cost has to be a consideration of course.}


Hes to old if we need an american in the team for shirt sales we should go after Juan argeldo he's young and cheap and just as good as dempsey but would work better in a three pronged attack


Cannot believe we are going to pay 10M for Dempsey who is 29. Shows things are getting desperate.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 09:56:37
morn ed hope your well,keep up the great work,is there any news on dempsey.i was sure we would bid for him,ive just got the paper's and in the people its saying we are owner's want rodger's too sign the player and we will get him for 6M-7M.hope it's right very good player.jay essex red for life red till dead {Ed002's Note - I am told that Dempsey will come up for sale there will certainly be interest from Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and a couple of German sides. Age and cost has to be a consideration of course.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 09:38:30
Aquilani and Cole are staying. Rodgers is going to give them a chance this season. He is a big fan of Bellamy, it depends on what offers come in for him, however he would prefer to keep him. Maxi's future is unclear but i know that Rodgers thinks he would fit in well with his style of play, but not out wide, rather as an attacking midfielder.

Luis


You are entitled to your opinion Luis but I do not think you know what Brendan thinks any more than anyone else does.


Can't see brendan keeping cole and aquilani, both of whom would want to be, and be most suited to, playing in the attacking mid position, and then trying out maxi there as well! two players who have hardly been a success at liverpool and one playing in an unfamiliar position is hardly a recipe for success!


I think most LFC fans would love to see Aquilani play and be footballer of the year, but you have to be realistic about it. He simply does not want to play for Liverpool, and even if he did there is no guarantee he would suddenly be the best thing since sliced bread.
He was very promising and did look like he could offer so much if he was in the right frame of mind - but he isn't, so we gotta let the lad go. I also would love for him to stay and be passionate about being here, but it's not gonna happen.


It seems that you only believe Macca when he says he knows that Rodgers is a fan of Johnson, it's not his opinion then, its "fact"... Or how about the fact I posted interest in Allen, Borini or Ramirez before him yet no one comments on mine and Macca has like 30.

Luis


Yes I noticed that Luis ,thanks for up date lad YNWA lfc linc


 

 

08 Jul 2012 09:37:34
Hi eds is there any possibilty of resigning mascherano as he has been used as a CB at barcelona last season. Also what is the situation with joe allen i understand that an agreement has been put in place that rodgers cant sign players from swansea for a year but we are constantly getting linked with him i think he would be an exellent signing {Ed002's Note - Mascherano does not seem like a probable target. The Allen question has been answered many times but if Liverpool agreed not to approach Swansea for players I would expect them to honour that agreement. If not then there is no issue.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 08:57:00
The little i know or think i know is there is definatly interest in borini wether he would want to join us is another matter as the eds have pointed out he may not be keen on coming back to england wev made enquiries abt ramirez and moses no offers as of yet and ive heard nothing on the young real madrid lad apart from twitter as far as im aware suarez and bellamy are staying not sure on maxi but as always in football can all change n i have been wrong before when i said we wer looking at moses and wijnaldum the eds put me in my place with wijinaldum.there is more options weve looked at but im not sure on them all and i see macca said joe allen but i thought we had an agreement with swansea that we wouldnt sign there players cheers CRAIG


 

 

08 Jul 2012 08:54:20
Hey Ed what ever happened to Keisuke Honda? I know we were very close to signing him and Lazio were EXTREMELY close to signing him but CSKA pulled out on the last minute, but Lazio don't seem to be doing too much about it now..

I think he's similar to Shinji Kagawa, but way more versatile and probably the best left-footed freekick in the world, and not too expensive... {Ed002's Note - Nothing has happened - it all stays the same.}


How many times does hondas name get mentioned on this site hes not coming to liverpool end of


 

 

08 Jul 2012 08:16:28
Morning eds....word from melwood is that aqua is staying here for at least next season to prove himself and BR is very impressed with him , I dont think he was ever given a chance so lets hope it works out


He hasn't had a single training session so I doubt he's that impressed. Perhaps we watched AC Milan last year, but I doubt he saw someone he liked.

Papa G


He will b like a new signing all together. Aquilani will be a vital player for Liverpool this season. If there is any midfielder in the team who brings flair, it is this man. If we played Steve and Lucas as the defensive midfield and Aquilani in the CAM position, we will see te best out of Carroll and Suarez. If Aquilani is fit all season, we have a shot at 3rd in my view...


He can,t be impressed he has not been back to train


He'll be even more impressed if he can offload him to Bologna in a part ex for Ramirez. Now that would be a good deal.
kidmillions


He conned previous managers and if he stays he will con BR. Hope we can get rid s.a.p.
CR


Hah aquilani will be like a new signing. a bloody woeful one. he was given a chance at liverpool, but it was spent in the hospital. he doesn't want to be in liverpool anyway so let him go.
derryred


 

 

08 Jul 2012 07:57:48
Hey eds, is there anything regarding Stephane Sessegnon? {Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}


I think there was rumours he was homesick and psg were interested.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 07:27:33
Allen on his way to Liverpool fc. Source: Koptalk.


Like I said in my banter posted 7.32am... Singred


How many times we can't buy Swansea player for a year I am sure this is true isn't it ED's or am I going mad

Deanalfie


From what I understand, there's no official clause saying we can't buy from Swansea for a year, it was more of a gentlemans agreement between Swansea chairman and Rodgers. That doesn't stop Rodgers enquiring about Swansea players and if Swansea are happy to sell for the right price then both clubs win.

Andy {Ed002's Note - If Liverpool has made a "gentleman's agreement" then I would expect them to honour it.}


Money talks. If both clubs are willing then it is possible. Pj


Swansea won't keep a player that wishes to leave and Rodgers will pay a good price to get his man as Allen will be Liverpools Xavi.
kidmillions


I suspect Brendan will know what is going on and if Joe Allen becomes available we will be given the same chance to sign him as any other club.
CR


Why we are getting worse Allen is a poor mans Henderson don't understand it we are defo turning into a mid table club!


Just because we r buying from a smaller club then he is crap nobody gives him a chance,this is how you improve your team get the players that you need,take the best players from lesser teams i reckon playing with better players will improve them more,the gamble is how they handle the pressure of being expected to win all the time if buck goes in for this lad he knows, he must think he could handle the pressure.the players we got of lower clubs made us the great club we are remember to name a few.Ray clemence kevin keagan (Scunthorpe) Phil neal (Northampton).Elmlyn Hughes (Blackpool).Ian Rush (Chester) Alan Hansen(Partick).Legends all.Tommy Irish Red.


Lol, Allen a poor mans Henderson?

Allen is head and shoulders above Henderson in every aspect of his play, Henderson has potential, Allen has proven quality

Andy


Is the museum not closed on a sunday ?


 

 

08 Jul 2012 06:12:08
This is from a current LFC player who I was lucky enough to be sat to for dinner last night. Unfortunately Suarez is going to be sold. There are several clubs going to be bidding for Him and FSG will accept no less than £35 million.
FSG have said that 2 new strikers must be in the club before clubs are aware Suarez is for sale so that they are not over priced! Hence the fresh rumours on borini for £20 million when early rumours suggested £10 million before he signed for Roma. The money from the Suarez sale will be put straight back into transfer funds.
This is terrible news but it is what has been said.
As for Ramirez, the deal is unlikely because of Suarez departing with also another bid from Wolfsburg expected. Man city are very interested in the player if they can offload tevez!

James


A current player would not come out and admit suarez will be sold. i dou8bt he would even have a clue about ti anyway.

mike b


More BS. Why do people bother. I hate the school holidays.


Borini will not be coming too us fact,its been sorted his rights a with one club now.so please stop going on about that player its getting so old.when torro was sold all the money was put back in for players,eg suarez and big andy thanks too are owner's,and if will sell some more player's they will do the same,walking on with hope.jay essex red for life red till dead,


So BR tells players who he is going to buy and sell? How very unlikely.

GET REAL


Players don't know anything, there just employees, he was probably buzzing off you:) whilst feeding you misinformation :):) lol
kidmillions


School holidays classic


Cept it's not the school holidays... and Suarez could well know the intention of the club to let him go, and could well have spoken to a fellow player.


Haha cept lol sounds proper mature that does school boy suarez isnt going anywhere get back to ya homework


Make us laugh even more by telling us what player....

Carroll was having u on mate... Lol


How was the scottish restuarant food? lol you almost had this crowd believing you


I don't see that players know who we are selling and buying. Nothing to do with them. And would any of them who do know talk about it with a stranger over dinner ??


Brendan Rodgers recently gave an interview stating that he has spoken to Suarez and Luis said that he was happy to stay. He also said that the club wanted to get him on to a new contract. So are you calling Brendan Rodgers a liar?


Okay okay james, i believe you, now get back in the straight-jacket.


Oh James, James, James, James, James. You've really let yourself down with this one mate. You should be a little bit embarrassed.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 06:10:06
Given that he is a free agent now would Michael owen be an option for BR ?


He would still want paying.


Hey mate get a life may be we should bring back Steve highway


None starter m8,never going too happen,we could bring back rushie too his on a free ;),jay essex red for life red till dead


I'm sure he could always use someone to polish his shoes

Lewis the Red


I wish I could click 'unbelievable' more than once...he would bring/provide nothing to the club.
Paul Mc


Don't think he'd too welcome after playing for the mancs, not to mention the fact that he's finished.

Andy


NO NO NO NO NO!


Why would you want him


Micky owen must stay away from our wonderful club i dont want to see him anywhere near us .. cheers mal


Agree with Andy - he's finished! Would bring nothing to the club and showed what he thought of LFC fans when he signed for the Mancs
Jim


Why oh why would we want to resign that old turncoat?


 

 

08 Jul 2012 01:05:27
Ed002, how reliable is Rodrigo Romano mate? It's him who seems to be at the forefront of all these Ramirez rumours.

Thanks

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - I really don't know Blair. The situation as I know it remains as I have said. I think if Liverpool could get him it would be great.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 00:42:49
BR loves his teams to have a playmaking DM. Lucas will not be fit for the start of the season and Javi Martinez (who ideally would have been the number 1 target) is out of our budget range. The rumour that I have heard is that BR will try to get Xabi Alonso as Khedira is not for sale and Sahin is not interested in a move to England.


He'll play what system best suites the team; 4-2-3-1.


Cant see Madrid letting Alonso go......although I would love this to happen......

Thanks

Kam


Then you have heard wrong. Clearly I shouldn't have to explain why Alonso is better than both these players, plus Real are interested in Modric, and are prepared for Sahin to go as part of the deal.

Lewis the Red


You obvioudly know your football really well......I hear Alonso's main strengths ARE his tackling and defensive cover.....idiot


Alonso's passing isn't his stongest then mate?


Alonso's tackling an defensive cover is exeptiptonal. Maybe. Not his main strengths but certainly not a weekness. The man is probly the best complete midfielder of his generation and his passing aloud the gerrard an Torres partnership to work(reason torres will not be prolific for Chelsea an never was for spain as there short passes suit villa). I believe Alonso will be back one day and I wud take him at any age because anything Gary mc can do Alonso can do in his sleep


Alonso will not return to Liverpool this summer........according to the Eds.

SUMON VAI


Alonso has become a regular in the Spanish national side since being at Real Madrid. So he's not coming back, good player but not as great as some lfc supporters make out.
kidmillions


Alonso has always bin a regular in the Spain team tht is why he as won ova 100 caps! U dnt win tht many caps in a team like tht jus cz u have been quality for a season or 2! His short an long range passin is as good as any if not the best for the last 8 years


People say one man doesnt make or break a team, but for us since Alonso left, we never been the same.


 

 

08 Jul 2012 00:23:51
Any remaining interest in Badelj or Vrsaljko? Heard a snippet of info from a usually reliable source that once the Sig deal fell through BR focused on Badelj... I see it as doubtful at best but wanted to check in the Ed's here.

American Red {Ed002's Note - Dinamo Zagreb's Milan Badelj has been looked at by Liverpool, Lazio, Spurs and Palermo. Right now the two clubs that are pushing for a deal are Locomotiv Moscow and, particularly, Fiorentina.

Manchester City, Leverkusen and Roma have shown an interest in Vrsaljko.}


 

 

08 Jul 2012 00:02:10
I believe Borini and Allen are definite targets, no news on Ramirez..

Cheers

Macca


Thanks mate. Tell whoever it is you get your info off, to get Ramirez asap.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Really?! Tho they are good players, i thought we'd be aiming higher. Is that a no on ramirez or that you just dont know please Macca?!

Kop71 {Ed002's Note - RTFP.}


Is it possible to buy allen?


Are you sure Macca? Isn't Allen unavailable to us plus the abundance of CMs we have make it unnecessary?


Allen I'm excited for. Haven't seen too much of Borini to comment on him. But if Rodgers wants him, then he must be good enough.

Eds, in regards to Allen, is there a loophole where we can sign Swansea players? {Ed002's Note - A "loophole"? If Liverpool gave a commitment not to sign players I would expect them to honor it. If not, then fine.}


So we can by allen?


Thanks macca.. allen would be fantastic amazing at keeping the ball.. underrated because he plays for Swansea. although ramirez available at 20mil euros which is about 16 million in pounds should be all out for, could be worldclass. borini is a clinical finisher. good times at lfc.


Nice to hear from you macca
Thanks
John


How could we get Allen with the agreement between us and swansea

Gljosh


Only way we could get Allen is if he put in a transfer request. Even then i would feel awkward going for him after we said we wouldn't. He would be brilliant though...

Teejay


Can u confirm we're after rameriz macca?


Allen had the best passing accuracy in europe in january..over xavi and iniesta..Not surprised he is the swansea player we would be interested in. Him and lucas would be immense in CM..Thanks for the info. Tell them to pull all the stops to buy ramirez!
Davey Liver


Allen is a neat little player. Also i heard something on Sly Sports news that the agreement with swansea that is in place would not stop Rodgers from making a polite enquiry for any of their players if it became necessary......

Thanks

Kam


This is the real macca ? well i have to say i am soocked at us having interest in allen although i guess suspected borini. cheers macca for the info.
derryred


If any one else had said this, i would be convinced they were lying and ridicule them straight away, but if macca says so, it's obviously not as far fetched as i originally thought


Macca does this mean we will bid or just monitoring them and thanks for your post

DMW


Nice work macca! If thats who BR wants then ill back them all the way!..
Y.N.W.A


I'm sure BR will do all the communication properly and will still be down to the Swansea chairman of they want to sell.....

Woozer


Well that sucks.....


Thanks macca, i would prefer joe allen and borini compared to gaston ramirez and other costly strikers, we sure gonna play wid fasle nince like spain did in euros,buying expensive player is a waste of money . cheers


Macca so good to hear from u. Allen is such a quality wee player a really think we could benefit from him. If we could snatch him Allen ramirez n another quality winger who knows where Liverpool would be. A need to thanks u for speaking to me but honestly what a city and place to see. U would love to play plus grow as players it's amazing plus they are willing to help! Sparky YNWA


I believe if a transfer request is put in they will try and sign him..

Cheers

Macca


Thought Borini made his move to Roma? Didn't they take the option to buy out the other 50% of the player from Parma??


Its just interest Its not confirm that they will sign.


Didn't Borini sign for Roma on a permanent deal, a week ago. Everyone including the ed;s said that had put that rumour to bed? Are we talking about the same player? Anyone else would get shot down in flames for that but we all know how reliable and much needed macca is.?

Top 4 next season
Trix


Thought we couldnt buy any Swansea players


Macca, any interest in Sturrige?


Did no one listen to Rodgers in his first press conference? When asked about the supposed agreement with Swansea he said that he had a good relationship with the chairman and that it would be looked at on a deal-by-deal basis.


Joe Allen great tackler but we got Lucas have him over Charlie Adam anyway I expect if we go for him spearing aquilani an Adam gotta go so gerrard Lucas Henderson Shelvey an hopefully suso coming through wouldn't mind them 6 in the middle other 3 gotta go though


Oh my god some of you fans would back a horse if he managed us. Allen and borini? More second rate players to help us to a midtable finish. We are now a laughing stock and destined for midtable mediocrity forever now. I'll bet anyone we won't get champions league for at least 4 season of they are the calibre of players coming to club. You can throw every Allen stat at me all you want, Charlie Adam was getting compared to alonso last season. Oh borini? Garbage again.


So we have gone from iker muniain and roberto soldado...to borini and allen...not great players in my eyes.

thatracoonstolemybacon


Really thought we were going to try and get in the top 4 but obviously we want to cement our position as a mid table team.


Get real and face facts we are a mid table team and Allen would be a great signing for us! Apart from Gerrard he would be better than any other midfield player we have got! This is a rebuilding process and it's not going to happen over 1 transfer window! So wake up from your little dream world your in you bunch of tools!


Poster above> tools? You'd think we were a million miles away. A signing of munian's or jovetic's quality will put us in the mix. Your the tool, fans have a right to be concerned after recent disasters in the transfer markets.


That's really dissapointing targets....please not allen


There's also something missing that we can't offer players of munians quality. Champions league football!

It is a rebuilding process and we have to pick the best players from the '2nd shelf of players' until we are established back in the top 3/4, then we can be looking at the top quality players everyone seems to think we can attract after finishing 8th in the league.

Allen in my eyes would be a fantastic signing, as said above, only gerrard in our team is a better player. Allen keeps and uses the ball far better than any of our current midfielders and that includes gerrard! The one thing he does need to improve is his goal scoring but he brings much more to a team.

Allen, Ramirez, Johnson and a goal scorer could see us challenging to be back in the top 4 next season.

Be patient

Andy


If this is the calibre of player Liverpool are aiming to attract to the club I don't see a bright future for us.
Sorry Macca for the rant I know you're only passing on information, a job which you do fantastically well, but I just wish the information you had was more positive. Thanks


I think allen would be a good buy, i live in swansea and watched allen quite a bit last season, he's quick on the ball, great passer and very creative. Borini on the other hand im not convinced of, would much rather have someone like jovetic but i guess beggers cant be choosers. whatever happens back rodgers and the team and see what happens.


Spurs aren't in the top 4 and they manage secure top signings. Our establishment needs to realise that while their rosy plans may look great on paper it's not going to happen in reality.


Why create such a fuss over what you seem to think are midtable players? First of all Joe allen was in the team that beat Liverpool last day of the season! Infact him in that midfield made liverpool look like they were a championship side. Is the truth watch the highlights again and second of all who was messi iniesta xavi , alonso etc until they was given the chance to step up. Just chill out and see what they can do under a good coach in the good environment.

Jordan


Pretty sure spurs finished 4th last season!


Macca sorry mate, you are contradicting yourself. you said last week that we are going to make big spending this summer. and now it appears that our targets are the likes of boroni and allen who should not cost us huge amount.


I dont want to be a kill joy but i can 100% say that will not happen... has macca ever been wrong? expect a player that will make a difference ynwa


 

 

07 Jul 2012 23:57:30
Rodgers is lining up a deal for Borini. The person who posted about Callejon the other night was not me. I did however submit a post about interest in Allen and Ramirez last week.

Luis


Macca also saying about Borini and Allen, Luis mate. The Eds have been saying from last summer we were interested in Ramirez.

If we do get Ramirez they'll be the 1st ones I'll thank.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Beat Macca to the punch it seems ;)

Luis


So can you just sum up what you know Luis?

Lewis


Lewis, what I know is that Rodgers is working very hard to secure the best transfers he can to Liverpool. He wanted Sigurdsson but that ship sailed when Spurs came in and offered 70k, we thought he wasn't anywhere near that wage because that would be the same as Suarez'.

Right now, there will be plenty of targets that BR is looking at. Allen, Borini and Ramirez to name a few. It's currently very tight, very few leaks coming from inside the club. Rodgers maintaining the Liverpool way in doing this. Cole is set to stay, he likes Cole a lot. Aquilani is someone who he rates as a footballer but wants to hold talks with the lad and his agent about personal stuff and whether he would be interested in staying at Liverpool before deciding his future.

Sturridge is another who is a target but that deal is nowhere near completion. He would be interested in joining. Chelsea willing to sell. His meningitis is only viral so it's not serious for now. If it turns bacterial then i think we would pull out because that can be fatal.

On outgoings, no offers for Skrtel yet, he is content at the club but if a good offer comes in i do know he will consider it with careful thought. Suarez is staying, Rodgers has made it clear what the ambitions and plans and he is happy with that, and is willing to give us another season. Agger is staying, loyal lad. Reina i think is staying but that's my opinion. Johnson as Macca said is highly rated by Rodgers. Lucas is staying. Downing likely to go, along with Spearing. Rodgers wanted Adam at Reading and Swansea so i think he might stay.

That's everything i know. Oh and i'm expecting us to stay at Anfield.

Luis


 

 

07 Jul 2012 23:49:35
Hi eds, would LFC or Bologna have any interest in including Aquiliani in any potential Ramirez bid?

JJ86 {Ed002's Note - I would doubt it.}


Couldn't afford his wages mate.


 

 

07 Jul 2012 23:46:25
News in from African newspapers is Doumbia of CSKA has been contacted buy Liverpool,i live in Ghana but my friend is a building contractor working in the Ivory coast and he told me it was yesterdays paper >hope its true hes class!


Fantastic striker


 

 

07 Jul 2012 23:28:30
Eds.

R liverpool interested in welliton and how much would cska want if he were to leave. I think he is what we need.

Cheers {Ed002's Note - There is no interest known from Liverpool.}


CSKA would want nothing for him. But Spartark would want at least 25m for him {Ed002's Note - He plays for CSKA.}


He's good on FIFA 12. Lol


 

 

07 Jul 2012 23:05:40
is poulsen still on our books or was he sold? {Ed002's Note - He should now be a free agent and Liverpool no longer paying his wages.}


That's a shame I was looking forward to him coming back with cole and aquilani, if only we could get konchesky back


O/ yay


 

 

 
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