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10 Jul 2021 09:47:36
Good Morning Ed’s.

Apologies if this has been raised elsewhere but I havnt seen. Reports about that Ben Davies wants to stay and JK personally asked him to do so. Assuming this is accurate which I am unsure about at best, are we looking to offload any of the CB’s on the books either permanently or on loan? If Williams is included as a senior we have 7 CB’s for 2 positions are surely need to trim the squad? Thoughts or insights appreciated as always.

James.

{Ed002's Note - As has been explained, Nat Phillips is available to leave. Konate is a Gomez replacement but Gomez won't be sold. Ben Davies was a huge mistake but does not appear to be for sale.}

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10 Jul 2021 10:59:49
Why is Ben Davies a huge mistake?

{Ed002's Note - His career has been stopped as Liverpool purchased him and did not play their youngsters. He has not played and midfield players have been picked ahead of him. A huge mistake and dreadful squad management again.}

10 Jul 2021 11:10:51
Thanks Ed. Very disappointing to hear. I very much hope positive decisions are made and both are allowed to move on to progress their careers.

10 Jul 2021 11:36:24
We needed cover, we signed him on deadline day of January. Season was over 4 months later, hardly a career ruiner. Both he aswell as the club were obviously happy to go along with the move which didn't exactly cost the club a fortune, they'll probably even turn a profit when selling.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool had youngsters they could use and also took a player on loan. The squad management has been poor and continues to be poor. So where does the player stand now?}

10 Jul 2021 11:40:43
It’s clear as day Klopp didn’t want Ben Davies. It seems we have a Rafa situation with Robbie Keane, signing a player he didn’t really want and then refusing to play him to send a message to the owners.

{Ed001's Note - nonsense. The lad got injured just after joining us, Williams and Phillips were in situ by the time he got back.}

10 Jul 2021 11:46:36
The player has this season to prove he is good enough to be kept beyond this season. That's where he stands based on what has been said in this thread. Sounds like he wants to stay to try make the most of the opportunity.

Klopp doesn't play every new player straight after signing. If Ben Davies isn't happy with how many games he plays this season then he can move on in January or at the end of the season. Not a big deal.

{Ed002's Note - The squad management continues to be very poor.}

10 Jul 2021 11:48:27
I imagine Williams will leave and we don’t know how the 3 injured players will recover. I think we need to keep an extra defender or 2 just in case. We can’t be playing the midfielders at the back again.

10 Jul 2021 12:18:26
Am sure Davies would have played if he wasn’t injured! Klopp can’t pick him if he’s on the treatment table can he.

10 Jul 2021 12:22:21
Not many squads could have dealt with the amount of injuries we did last season maybe none! So on that side squad management has been fantastic and we did use youngsters Williams and Philips (not so young) Elliotts loan also worked out well. But I do agree hanging on to some of the players we do that never get to see them me on the pitch is poor Tsimikas Origi Ox and Shaq never play. But hey If poor squad management wins champions leagues and premiership titles then carry on. Seriously though I do think a tidy up is needed a bit messy having all these players unsure of their futures.

10 Jul 2021 12:50:15
The central defenders that will be reporting for day 1 of pre season…
Ibrahima Konate, Virgil van Dijk, Joel Matip, Joe Gomez, Ben Davies, Rhys Williams, Nat Phillips, Billy Koumetio,

10 Jul 2021 13:05:37
To be fair, Ben Davies must have known that he wasn’t going to be a regular starter and at best 4 choice when he signed for us. Maybe if it wasn’t for his injury he might have had some game time, we will never know. I hope he gets a chance to prove himself, but either way, we need to offload some of the back up CBs.

10 Jul 2021 13:16:55
3 senior defenders going into the season with the hope of giving the youngsters games in the early rounds of the domestic cups. Due to almost unheard of bad luck through injuries we were left with no senior centreback by January with most experts giving us no hope of top 4.We then sign a talented kid on loan "without"an obligation to buy and a player for pennies from the championship who then gets injured. We then achieve top 4 with the loanee and probably our 6th choice centrehalf at the start of the season. Davies and Phillips will likely be sold now for a hefty profit while we bought one of the most promising defenders in the world, leaving us with a group of 4 Centrehalves better than anything in the league. Absolutely top class squad management to me.

{Ed002's Note - Rubbish - you don't understand the situation nor the Home Grown rules.}

10 Jul 2021 13:18:31
Keeping Davies as LCB cover will allow us to sell Phillips and loan Rhys. It's interesting that Ed001 and 002 seem to disagree on this point. The lad was unlucky with the injury, so Liverpool did use youngsters. Hope he can stay fit and get some game time so we can finally see what he can offer.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool used the likes of Henderson and Fabinho at CB. Ben Davies did not play a single game.}

10 Jul 2021 13:55:19
Were grand regarding home grown. Elliot and Jones aren't even counted yet even though they'll get plenty of games. Look Klopp pulled a blinder getting us top 4.Davies will get over it. Big drama about nothing.

{Ed002's Note - You are an idiot - Liverpool had a reduced Champions League squad last season.}

10 Jul 2021 14:33:48
So would you want us to have a 25 man squad. AND the likes of Neco, Jones, elliott?

{Ed002's Note - Williams won't be there but Liverpool will have to leave players out of their Champions League squad again or fix the problems.}

10 Jul 2021 14:41:44
Kelleher, Neco, Trent, Gomez, Ox, Hendo, Millie, Jones and Elliott for this season. grand. not counting jones is like Arsenal not counting Saka, or Utd not counting Grenwood. these players are senior players despite their age.

10 Jul 2021 14:43:45
If you were not pick ahead of rhys last seasons. Good luck trying to be picked next seasons.

10 Jul 2021 15:49:32
Ben Davies kept picking up injuries did he not? I mean surely it would have been worse management to play him at a level higher than he’s ever played before with a niggling injury?

{Ed002's Note - He made the bench a few times. But a pointless buy.}

10 Jul 2021 15:56:38
Reminds me of a buy a few years ago, one of the top 6 (cant think who) bought a 24 year old from some championship club. can't remember ever hearing of him again. Anyone remember who it was?

10 Jul 2021 16:18:04
Aaah it was Michal Hector bought by Josè at Chelsea.

10 Jul 2021 16:36:29
Nonsense Ed? Klopp was happy with a last minute championship defender? I’m not buying it. I’ll trust in Klopp’s squad management as well too thanks.

{Ed001's Note - ok you obviously know better. Or it could just be that you are as arrogant as you are ignorant and will dismiss anything that doesn't suit you.}

10 Jul 2021 17:31:43
Look he may stay or go. but at £1.6m for a player who had plenty of interest in him, and who will more than likely turn a nice profit when being sold his signing can hardly be classed as a "huge mistake".

11 Jul 2021 00:07:49
Last season players for CB position:

-VanDijk (INJURED)
-Gomez (INJURED)
-Matip (INJURED)
-Philips (Played 20 games)
-Rhys (Played 19 games)
-Ozan (Played 13 game)
-Davies (Played 0 Games)

This season

-VanDijk
-Gomez (Likely yo play RB)
-Matip
-Konate
-Philips (Sell)
-Rhys (Loan)
-Davies (? ) Didn't play a single game and doesn't have a place in the team unless 3 players get injured at the same time.

{Ed002's Note - "His career has been stopped as Liverpool purchased him" - "He has not played" - "A huge mistake and dreadful squad management again"

{Ed002's Note - "Ben Davies was a huge mistake but does not appear to be for sale"

11 Jul 2021 15:16:01
The guy kept getting injured which tells me he prolly could not handle the type of training Klopp deploys. Also, we are forgetting that Kabak and Phillips formed a solid partnership for 8 games w/ o a loss so was Davies on the bench during that time? If he was then of course, he stays there. If he was injured at the same time then again, what’s the problem?

We may have issues with squad management but IMO, this whole storm in a tea cup about Davies is way overblown, IMO.







 

 

 
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