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16 Jul 2021 09:57:28
Ed's do we still hold interest in Sarr or did that ship sail when we signed Jota?

{Ed002's Note - Jota was third choice behind Sarr and Traore - he was signed because Wolves would accept payments spread over a longer period. Liverpool want a versatile attacking player and maintain an interest in the others.}

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16 Jul 2021 11:17:08
Seems we should always go for our lesser choices as Salah and Jota seemed to have turned out well….

16 Jul 2021 11:16:20
@Ed002, Jota was at Wolves obviously and Traore is still there. As we were interested in both, did Wolves want a higher percentage of the fee up front for Traore compared to Jota or was Traore's price higher than Jota's?

Asking because they were at the same club and we didn't sign our preferred option so it would be interesting to hear more on why. Also, people keep mentioning Traore but I expect he is valued highly by Wolves and I hope we don't match their valuation.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained why. Liverpool did not have the money to do anything other than make staged payments.}

16 Jul 2021 11:36:33
Jota > Traore. Mind you, having said they, Djimi Traore > Adama Traore.

16 Jul 2021 11:39:15
Go on then Ed where’s our interest looking?
Mbappe?
Coman the barbarian?
Fernando Torres?

On a serious note is it doku raphina?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

16 Jul 2021 15:42:07
Sorry Ed002 you misunderstood my question. Totally get that Liverpool could only afford staged payments but Traore and Jota were both Wolves and you mentioned we preferred Jota.

Another way to put my question - we moved for Jota instead of Traore because? . I think the answer is because Wolves wanted less for Jota than Traore but you will actually know so that's why I'm enquiring.

{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this. Traore was preferred but Wolves wanted paying for him and sold Liverpool Jota with spread payments.}

16 Jul 2021 18:06:51
So glad we got Jota instead of Traore, but i bet Wolves wish it had been the other way round now.

16 Jul 2021 16:56:53
Ok thanks Ed002, I understand your answer.

I don't understand Wolves' logic - money is money so strange how they wanted to be paid up front for Traore but not Jota.

{Ed002's Note - It is not strange at all.}

17 Jul 2021 17:21:16
I don't mean to be one to correct you, Ed002:

{Ed002's Note - I have explained why. Liverpool did not have the money to do anything other than make staged payments. }

Liverpool could have increased the loan from the owners, or used the revolving credit facility didn't wish to deficit spend in financial year heavily impacted by disruption form C.V.. They were one of the only clubs not to deficit spend during the season, unlike Manchester City or even Chelsea.

They also won't this season after the full impact of C.V. hits in the second year of accounts affected by it. Add to that, the low initial fees of Jota and Thiago, and there's already a sizable cash outlay for this season.

Fans do need to understand, though, that all these contract renewals and first professional contracts cost money, and what the club has to spend will be impacted by the associated costs.

Renewed contracts are considered important for the likes of Alisson, Fabinho, Virgil van Dijk, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Andy Robertson and Mohamed Salah. Income received for broadcasting deffered to the following accounting period will help with this, but I'd suggest that these renewals are more important than transfers, to protect the value of these players.

Based on its last few financials financials, I would expect after the purchase of Konate, Liverpool probably has a transfer budget remaining of around £90m. Transfer budgets are never worked out on fees though, and include wages. agent costs, etc. The benefit Liverpool has here, is wages should reduce this season by around 10-12m, due to lesser performance incentives - meaning it can easily stick to both Premier League an FFP rules on wage increase limits.

One interesting stat, is the two seasons Liverpool spend bit on Wages and Transfers, they one trophies. Granted, the one before they came as close as one point from winning the league, but after spending just short of £30m last season (net), it didn't work out as well. Pay as you play, indeed.

I don't expect to see us spend £200m, and I'd be worried if we did, but I expect we have a little more than people think. Next season is when I expect us to spend.

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point. The club needs to work towards balancing the bookd and stop accumulating debt. You are making it up about transfer budgets.}

18 Jul 2021 02:30:09
Ed666, that's precisely my point.

The are those that will say we shouldn't sell Salah at any cost, but when his form eventually drops they will then say we should have sold him when we could have reaped a top fee and "invested" in {fantasy football} names.

We can't have it both ways. Like MKS says, the club will find another talisman. I suppose the option of selling a player, especially as they get older, is always on the table and will be weighing up the cost/ benefit of selling or hanging on depending on who can be brought in.

{Ed0666's Note - mate we may possibly get a Aubamayang situation with Salah if we give him a shiny new bells and whistles 5 year contract but have we got a choice? How the hell do you replace what Mo does? He could have easily won the golden boot the last 4 seasons, playing on the wing. That pure insanity. He’s not even an out and out striker. We have to treat him like Ronaldo or Messi and make an exception just this once, he’s just that good. I don’t care if he loses his pace and is missing sitters in two years what he brings to the table NOW is far too valuable to replicate by selling him and taking a chance replacing him.

18 Jul 2021 20:18:01
Ed0666, it's not just for now, in my opinion. We're seeing Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Modric, Buffon and other players still being able to make a serious impact for their teams past the age of 35 (and that's still 6 years away for Mo) . If they can do it, why can't Salah? Salah shows just as much drive and determination as any of these guys, no reason why he can't excel at a later age.

{Ed0666's Note - the caveat to you’re comment is a large component of salah’s game is about pace and once he loses that I feel his capabilities on the wing will be diminished so then I’d like to see him in the bobby position and tutor Harvey and the Polish kid if he makes the grade.

18 Jul 2021 20:46:14
That is all true, except I reckon his position is wing in name only.

For all we know, the club already have a plan in place to replace him when the right time comes.

In the meantime we could do worse than having Mo in the team for a while yet. I hope he keeps this form til the time he leaves, otherwise the I told you sos will be telling us they told us so.

19 Jul 2021 09:46:49
Who cares abt "I told you sos"? Are we going to run our club on people opinions now? 🤷.







 

 

 
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