31 Jul 2021 11:08:16
A lot of noise in the press today on Traore. I’m not over the moon about it but if he does join he deserves our support and could be a very useful impact player off, more so than Origi who will never lose his cult status but it’s probably time to move on.

As Ed002 suggests, I would rather us sell the fringe players and work with what we’ve got for now and invest in young HG talent for the future. I’m not talking about light years ahead, but trying to bring in the next Trent, Curtis or Harvey.

Is there any news on the Bobby Clark youngster from Newcastle?

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure the if the situation with the kiddie has changed.}

31 Jul 2021 12:00:01
Clark has signed.
I agree re Traore, in that he would be a decent sub to have with that power and pace. The issue is that one would think by now decent coaching would have him already be less headless.

31 Jul 2021 13:05:06
To be fair there were reservations on this very board when we bought Sadio (attitude, application) and Mo (didn’t do anything at Chelsea, not a standout at Roma) but someone at the club obviously saw something.

I don’t see Traore (based on the little I have seen) as a starter but he would be a reasonable back up, and as I say, perhaps whoever the “someone at the club’ who can spot potential sees something in him ……. Just saying.

{Ed002's Note - Traore is a Klopp pick - not the scout who persuaded Liverpool to buy Salah who was way down the list for Klopp.}

31 Jul 2021 13:17:23
Listening to your staff. that's why he's the best!

31 Jul 2021 13:14:17
100% their is a player their in Traore I feel his decision making is the part of his game that needs to improve also if he joined he would be joining a team who are more on the front foot for larger periods in games and play more attacking aggressive football so that could potentially unlock his full potential. Just a thought.

31 Jul 2021 14:27:48
Are you saying Klopp shouldn’t have a ‘pick’ Ed02? Seems a bit unfair if he can’t have a pick every now and then, when it’s his turn of course.

{Ed002's Note - I said nothing of the sort. Clearly a large number of supporters are trashing his choice of Traore. You wonder if Bowen would get the same treatment?}

31 Jul 2021 14:51:07
One would assume that Nuno and staff were good enough coaches to improve players, judging by how decent Wolves can be, so why did Traore not improve?
Id go for Bowen over Traore personally.

31 Jul 2021 14:59:35
Bowen would be great signing ed2.

31 Jul 2021 15:14:35
Ed, to clarify has Bowen been recommended by the same scout as Salah?

Generally, do scouts concentrate on certain leagues or positions or will they act across the board?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

31 Jul 2021 15:48:08
I don’t see a good player in Traore at all, more someone who’s used his strength and power to compensate for his lack of any real skill or tactical acumen. All very well against lower league teams but at the very top you’ve got to have brain and brawn.

31 Jul 2021 16:06:05
I don’t see a good player in Traore, but I do see a very decent player in Bowen who can develop more, he’s got a decent final ball and he’s got a knack of scoring goals and getting in goal scoring positions, and as far as I’m concerned forwards should be judged on how many goals they score and create, that’s their currency.

31 Jul 2021 16:30:34
Traore looks poor. Always on the bench for wolves for a reason. Would need to be 10 million to make sense imo. But klopp does improve players so let's hope he can work his magic.

31 Jul 2021 18:35:39
Don't want Bowen anywhere near our club unless they employ him as a cleaner. He's simply not CL level.

31 Jul 2021 20:05:52
I'll bet any man, woman or dog, that if we do sign Traore he will score at least 10 goals 😏 no matter what it is, we must believe.

31 Jul 2021 21:35:31
Did Robertson, Fabinho, Salah, etc etc. None of them looked great when they joined but klopp and co. took them out and worked on them. I think that's Klopps genius, he buys players that he thinks have great qualities and tweaks them to make them great players. If klopp likes Traore I have 100% faith in that.

31 Jul 2021 22:37:21
I agree with the sentiment Wuger, though Fabinho was obviously a class act when he was playing for Monaco - I was made up when we signed him!

01 Aug 2021 00:45:58
False equivalency Wuger.

Robertson was one of Hull’s best players.

Salah had been dominating in Serie A and probably the best winger in Serie A when we signed him.

Firmino had consistently been one of Hoffenheim’s best players when we signed him.

Fabinho had been one of Monaco’s best players and was widely coveted by many sides.

Traore is a non goal scoring, non creative forward with only one thing in his locker, getting his head down and running at people. He’s got no vision, no skill, no finesse, his shooting is poor and if he assists a goal it’s more luck than judgement, no amount of coaching will give him end product. The bloke was at Barcelona and if they couldn’t get that into him then no one can.

It’s good money to bad abs would be almost as bad a waste of money as Keita.

01 Aug 2021 12:02:12
I'm not quite sure you're remembering this correctly. Robertson was like a puppy, loads of energy but no end ball, so klopp took him out worked on him and he was transformed into a great player. Salah wasn't great, I think he scored 15 goals the previous season and then scored 32. Fabinho looked awful when he started but now he's brilliant.

01 Aug 2021 15:30:50
Can we have a grumpy award for Rudder please eds?