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24 Aug 2021 22:37:03
Ed002 with what you've advised on Coutinho interest, has there been any recent dialogue or conversation with Barcelona or his agent regarding a possible return please?

{Ed002's Note - Kia has spoken with Liverpool recently.}

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24 Aug 2021 23:08:36
I’m actually not so keen on him. He’s done very well since he left, winning many league titles and even the CL and I continue to wish him well.

But personally, I don’t see it as a good business as he is
- already 29 (and we have an ageing squad)
- actually feel that he slows down our play if he played in midfield (could be because he felt he was the best player then in LFC and hogged the ball more, but towards the end he became predictable in my opinion)
- may be back up to the front 3 but not sure that’s what he wants (and I personally wouldn’t drop Mane nor Salah for him)

24 Aug 2021 23:42:15
I don’t think he is what we need at all in midfield Elliott Ox and Naby can play his role and in attack he plays from the left where Mane and Jota play. So I don’t think he is what we need if we are going to add a player for midfield it is more of a ball winning box to box type forward I think we need somebody that can play through the middle. Is he all so not coming back from a knee injury.
Please not.

25 Aug 2021 00:07:48
I hope the conversation with Kia was short and ended with “off”.

25 Aug 2021 00:09:02
Has Kia's conversation with Liverpool anything to do with Coutinho Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, that is what it was about.}

24 Aug 2021 23:11:05
Ok Ed thank you for the reply, much appreciated. I certainly hope we can find a way to bring him back to the club if he is in financial reach.

25 Aug 2021 02:12:26
I think we should sign that lad from Brighton instead ……….

25 Aug 2021 06:53:10
WDW - you mean Lallana? I'm all for it!

25 Aug 2021 07:18:03
I do hope nothing comes of this. I’d be amazed if Klopp was up for it really.

25 Aug 2021 08:15:52
His agent can do one and as for Cou, we are 3 times better and more all-around balanced team than the team he played in so he can take a hike and keep looking after that back injury he always seemed to have while he was here near the end.

{Ed0666's Note - now now Oli if he does come just think how hard he’ll try

25 Aug 2021 06:31:18
Good morning Ed002

What will agents generally talk about when offering players to clubs? Kia and Couthino for example.

{Ed002's Note - The desire of the player to join, terms, wages etc..}

25 Aug 2021 06:31:36
I’m assuming Ed002 that there will be members of the board who will need convincing to bring him back given the way he left and also his age and financial demand.

{Ed002's Note - It is not the board who make such decisions.}

25 Aug 2021 08:46:16
I understand he might of hurt some of you by leaving but come on. he is still a very talented lad who needs a good environment to perform he won’t get that at Barcelona. our attacking players consist of Salah, Mane, Bobby, Jota with Origi and Mini on the fringes. Pipco is better then Origi and Mini so to come back in as an option to play on the wing or in midfield is a no brainier he’ll work so hard to get the fans back on side if we can come to arrangement with reduced salary or Barcelona pay a percentage I’m all for it.

25 Aug 2021 08:57:44
What is with all this pinning to have Coutinho back - are we that desperate just to have a signing. As others have said he doesn't really fit the profile we like to get (a player with potential to grow/ a resale value)

You don't see the bitters after Barkley and they are dying out for a number 8 or 10 and he wouldn't set them back money wise as am sure Chelsea would be happy to get rid.

25 Aug 2021 08:50:09
He left brotherhood and his home. You would never know coutinho seems a player who works when he feels at home. He felt at home at liverpool.

He did throw a proper tantrum but club got awful lot of money form him which the owners reinvested and it brought us success.

Despite his age and injuries liverpool is his home and home will always welcome you back.
So if he comes its just the little magician returning for me and all is forgiven.

25 Aug 2021 09:25:45
Kloppers, he’s too weak and lightweight to play in midfield and he’s too slow to play our wide. He does not fit into our system. Not to mention the fact he’s been rubbish for the last few years, isn’t getting any younger and coming back from a bad injury.

Akira, you can’t have watched the champions league game against Barca, he was far from welcomed back. Bringing him back and saying all is forgiven is cuckold behaviour.

25 Aug 2021 09:44:44
Does he still have that back injury?

{Ed025's Note - yeah brommers, it difficult for him to ride his unicorn mate..

25 Aug 2021 09:54:18
I really don't see the appeal. He's not good enough to play across the front 3 and he'd likely take minutes from the youngsters centrally. It would be an unnecessary signing in my opinion.

25 Aug 2021 09:57:32
Vvvv Have u not seen pipco lately he’s bulked up a bit! And he’s a good player I can’t agree what your saying!
He left in a rubbishty way we all know but clubs sell players all the time regardless of them being happy there!
Let’s see what happens.

25 Aug 2021 10:01:50
Cuckold behaviour - hahahaha, not all of us were butt hurt when he chose to go to Barca.
If he came back and put the graft in on the pitch the fans in the ground would get behind him.
Only the butt hurt fans on social media would continue to cry.
I don't think he would come to sit on our bench anyway.

{Ed025's Note - for the right money he would flash..

25 Aug 2021 10:01:48
Thank you for your earlier reply Ed002.

25 Aug 2021 10:16:07
Jay mate, if he’s been eating pies that’s just going to make him even slower than he was before and he was never gifted with pace to start with. I’m absolutely against him signing as he doesn’t fit in anywhere in our line up, he faked injury to force a move and downed tools, he’d be a complete waste of a non home grown place and he’s not top class enough to take a risk on.

The only people we’d be helping is Barca, and quite honestly I’d be happier making both Barcelona and Pipco suffer by not bringing him back as they’ve still got to pay his huge wages whilst either not playing him or him playing badly. The only reasons I can see that people are advocating signing him are sentimental ones, none based in fact, and sentiment is worthless.

25 Aug 2021 10:23:33
Honestly, I don't really see where he would fit in anymore. Elliott and Curtis are our future and it would only push them down the pecking order.

It's not as if Phil is Saul ie almost perfect injury record and consistency over a number of years. And he doesn't have the robustness, athleticism and physicality of Bissouma either.

The only capability Phil could bring is a goal threat from distance or edge of the box. But then we think that about Ox too and that hasn't really worked out so far.

25 Aug 2021 10:13:16
Surprising one! Would the deal be a loan move Ed if anything was to happen? Presume we don’t have the funds to make an offer even though Barcelona would prefer to get rid completely.

{Ed002's Note - I think it is unlikely to happen but Barcelona want his wages off the books.}

25 Aug 2021 10:40:34
Ah right! Well cheers for the update Ed and have a nice day.

25 Aug 2021 11:10:10
Boom, after all that Ed it’s unlikely to happen lol. Just when I thought there was a chance we might actually bring someone in.

25 Aug 2021 11:12:23
Small silver lining about signing PipCo would be it freeing up Barca’s wages enough for them to sign Saul over Chelsea/ Utd.

I’d pass.

25 Aug 2021 11:19:02
It's funny how folks now play down Coutinho's quality because he left us. He's a tremendous player, not necessarily what we need but a gifted player nonetheless.
There's a reason Klopp wanted him to stay and Barcelona paid the huge sum to prise him away.

25 Aug 2021 11:45:56
It’s amusing Flash, when he was here everyone thought the sun shined out of his a** but know he is gone he is a terrible player always happens. yes he is not rapid but I’m sorry neither is Thiago or Elliot or Henderson or Keita or Milner or Jones or Firmino doesn’t mean they are not good enough. the only elite level speedsters we have in the squad are Salah and Mane or Ox, and what does that matter if he ain’t rapid he did well at Bayern it’s just Barcelona he hasn’t performed.

25 Aug 2021 11:56:09
Cmon Flash, Barcelona got rinsed by paying almost triple for a 50m player. If he came back to Liverpool, it wouldn't be the same player that left us. And if he ended up being a star purchase, you can't bet your mortgage that the lower lumbar issues would start to flare up as soon as PSG start fluttering their eyelashes. We need a promising younger player for the future, not a deserter.

25 Aug 2021 12:06:57
Hi Ed002 - has the original Coutinho fee been paid in full to Liverpool? I’m assuming it has, but was just wondering if that could be a factor here.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will not be getting anymore money for Coutinho.}

25 Aug 2021 12:07:27
Three and half years is a long time in football. He’s older, just come back from serious injury and for the most part has been absolutely awful in that three and a half years.

You have to ask why Bayern didn’t take up the option to buy, the answer is that he was very inconsistent for them too and they don’t like carrying passengers. Just ask Sanches.

It matters that he doesn’t have pace, as the only place you’d consider him currently for is in the attacking three, as he doesn’t have the work ethic and is too lightweight to play in midfield, and when I say lightweight it’s nothing to do with the fact he’s diminutive, but that he doesn’t chase, harangue and win the ball back, and we’ve got more than enough players to play as number 8 (Henderson, Keita, Thiago, Curtis Jones, Elliott and Milner) .

I get that he played we’ll occasionally for us. But that was three and a half years ago, time hasn’t been kind to Coutinho and the past should stay where it is. There can be no room for sentimental nonsense.

25 Aug 2021 12:37:28
Gents it’s unlikely anyway as has been explained so I wouldn’t get to concerned about it. I do find it strange that some would welcome Suarez back after all that he caused but would welcome Coutinho back.

25 Aug 2021 12:52:52
Agreed flash. he's a class player end of.
Certainly better than ox, keita, origi, harvey (for now) and Jones.
Now if we could get on a years loan with option to buy with sensible wages its a no brained for me.
Wouldn't be arsed either way to be fair. But who else we going to get? . Forget bissouma, that's not happening.

25 Aug 2021 12:57:35
Hi Ed002 - I was more so asking if, in situations like this (seller becomes buyer of what they previously sold) if you could essentially do a “debt forgiveness”. But if they have already fully paid off coutinho fee it is a moot point. Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - Sure but there will no more money coming to Liverpool for Coutinho.}

25 Aug 2021 13:30:01
VVVV - he occasionally played well for us?
Origi occasionally played well for us, I don't see Barcelona offering earth shattering sums for him.
Coutinho was a sensational player for Liverpool, hence the price tag that Barcelona willingly paid for him. Some of us remember how good he was and don't have jilted lover syndrome.

25 Aug 2021 13:55:34
TJRed - Liverpool ‘sold’ the outstanding Coutinho ‘debt’ to a 3rd party ages ago. Even if there were still any payments outstanding then they wouldn’t be going to the club (unless they come to us first to be sent elsewhere straight away) .

25 Aug 2021 16:20:47
With Naby dazzling nd Robbo and Coutinho we'd be like the Harlem globetrotters down that leftside in some games this year.

25 Aug 2021 16:35:16
Flash, he literally feigned injury and refused to play for us to force the move, whilst at the same exact time declaring himself fit to play for Brazil, he had clearly has Schrödinger’s back injury, it meant he was both fit and unfit at the same time, the little snake eyed rat. To me that was outright disrespect to the club, supporters and team mates.

He was occasionally good with the odd flash of brilliance and occasionally anonymous, he only scored double figures once in the premier league, let’s not pretend he was a beacon of consistent brilliance, as he wasn’t.

Let’s also not make out that he was or is anywhere near the likes of a DeBruyne, Hazard or even (to a lesser extent) Fernandes who perform week in week out, because he wasn’t and he’s not. He was certainly not sensational, that’s just hyperbole.

Clearly both Barcelona and Coutinho have buyers remorse, it would be folly to put either party out of their misery. The fact that Barcelona coughed up stupid money is down to their profligacy after selling Neymar.

25 Aug 2021 17:30:35
Yeh but what you say doesn't show is that he increased his premier league scoring year on year, like every young player. He scored 13 premier league goals as a non centre forward in his last full season and was on course to beat that by when he left at New Years in his last season. All in all he scored 26 goals in his last season and a half. I understand the hate, and am only concerned about Lfc here not Coutinho but he is an infinitely better option either from the bench or starting than the likes of taki and Origi. Loan without obligation to buy on good terms for us and it gets us through this season where were broke with better options than what we have now, that's all that matters.

25 Aug 2021 19:56:48
VVVV we're just going to have to agree to disagree on Coutinho.
The club wouldn't have fought to keep him if he wasn't highly rated
But the money was invested wisely and brought the rewards so it ended well.

26 Aug 2021 04:22:20
If Klopp doesn't feel Elliott, Minamino or Jones are really ready and financially we can bring him in, then its a no brainer. He is a player that can change the outcome of a game in an instant and if he is willing to fight for a place in an already stacked offense and, more importantly, willing to fight through the absolute mountain of abuse he's bound to receive if he even puts one foot wrong. well damn sign the lad up. I loved Coutinho when he was here. He did something rotten when trying to get his dream move and it backfired on him dramatically, but it doesn't change the fact that he was well-liked here at one time and was a wonderful player for us. He's in his prime and if he adds 10 goals to this team we win the league.



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