07 Jan 2022 16:06:10
Hi Ed’s, I was wondering if you saw the article in the echo that a top financial expert from a Liverpool university reckons we can spend a maximum of £237m in transfers this window without it effecting the financial fair play situation.

From what you Ed’s say (in that we can’t afford anything) without selling first how can we buy anyone?

I’m of the view that FSG are looking like they are neglecting our squad in terms of depth and quality of players to work with klopp.

Before you say “we aren’t going through it all again” how can a financial expert in his field come to this decision and your accounts on what’s happening at our club be so different?

Cheers for reading.

{Ed002's Note - he is not saying Liverpool have that money. They don’t.

07 Jan 2022 17:47:39
I'm sure we could borrow the £237m and spend it on players if we really wanted to.

But we'd be screwed for the next few years as a result of servicing the debt. So I think it's best the club doesn't do that. Or that we fans listen to that top financial expert.

07 Jan 2022 18:20:19
Yeah he's just saying under FFP rules we have that much wiggle room basically right? Big difference between that and the amount of money available to spend.

07 Jan 2022 18:29:13
I get where your coming from though OP and aid here your frustrations mate, it’s hard to take other teams strengthening and adding to there squads whilst we don’t have a bean. Our business model has a lot to Say about our finances I’m afraid as well as the C.V.. We clearly need reinforcements but we are going to have to go with what we have left and perhaps there will be some changes in the summer. Providing we sell players first of course.

07 Jan 2022 18:41:53
Didn’t we sell to buy prior to CV.

Or were we always going to spend big on Vvd, Allison and Fab regardless even if we did keep Coutinho.

07 Jan 2022 18:49:17
How can we continue winning honours and making more money through winning or going far in competitions when we haven’t got money to strengthen the team when needed?

I’m sure other clubs use there wiggle room to strengthen the squad.

Maybe it’s the owners not willing to use the wiggle room.

07 Jan 2022 18:07:03
I read that article but he seemed to be confusing FFP with Premier League profit and sustainability. He also said Everton need £35m in to comply. Going to be interesting to see how much teams have lost when all accounts are published.

07 Jan 2022 19:06:50
We don't have a thin squad. The reason other teams strengthen whilst it appears like we don't is because their squads suck and have holes whereas we don't in comparison.

07 Jan 2022 19:12:45
Faith do you include City and Chelsea in that.

07 Jan 2022 19:15:46
Faith. Not saying we have a thin squad. I’m saying we need investment and a freshness adding to the squad. City’s main target is Harland. Chelsea are shears signing players. Ed’s has explained they have a better business model than we do and we need to get things right in areas of the business (it is a business after all) to get able to compete with new signings. We seem to be the only club that has to sell and raise major amounts of money to invest. I’ve just read spuds are after Traore and Villa are after Bissouma now, our main 2 targets. We can’t just sleep whilst others move but that’s exactly what is happening and what has been happening over the last few years. CV has hit us hard. We need to recover quickly IMO.

{Ed002's Note - No that is not correct. The past two season has seen Chelsea fund Lukaku, Havertz, Werner, Chilwell, Ziyech and Mendy through player sales.}

07 Jan 2022 19:35:30
Well to be fair we don't have many players to sell.

07 Jan 2022 19:48:27
I get that Ed, I did say they have a better business model mate and selling players is part of that model.

07 Jan 2022 22:25:16
JK, Chelsea yes, City not really. They obviously have less gaps than most.

07 Jan 2022 22:25:54
Daretodream - we will freshen up, invest or whatever we call it. We have loads of players and can't just keep adding players.

07 Jan 2022 22:27:19
Traore and bissouma are guys I wouldn't mind we signed, but are also guys in positions we aren't exactly lacking in numbers. So we'd have to ship some away to bring them in.

08 Jan 2022 07:46:17
What I presume the op means is fsg could put in £237m of there money and we still be ok for ffp. We obviously can't just keep adding players, we need to sell some 1st to make space. Surely it's not unreasonable after success klopp has had and the growth of lfc in his time, for fsg to give him £100m + whatever sales we have for a transfer fund?

{Ed002's Note - FSG cannot put £237M in to the club.}

08 Jan 2022 09:00:06
I did try putting up the link guys it’s on empire of the kop as well if you want to read it.

Ed’s just telling us we are screwed really and we don’t have any sellable assets unless we want to demonise the team even more.

We are stuck in limbo a bit by the sounds of it.

08 Jan 2022 09:50:45
Ed 2. Do u mean can't put £237m legally into club? Or just physically can't afford it?

{Ed002's Note - That is what FFP is there to stop. This is why we don't discuss finances.}

08 Jan 2022 10:59:32
They don’t have better business models. One is in £1.5BN debt to its owner and the other is state funded and gets round rules due to a technicality.

Our owners simply don’t have the resources to compete so we have to accept that Klopp is our secret weapon but there is only so much he can do especially in a C.V. where squad quality and depth is so key.

08 Jan 2022 12:28:50
Digger. There is a thread maybe a few pages down on the rumours page. It explains what the owners are allowed to do regarding finances and what they can't. That might help. Cheers.

08 Jan 2022 10:00:55
Thanks for answering 👍.

08 Jan 2022 15:26:37
If you can’t take a business forward what happens next then Ed?

How do you see us as a club rectifying our financial problems?

{Ed002's Note - At the moment the impact of the pandemic needs to be past many clubs.}

08 Jan 2022 16:53:32
FFP isn’t the issue for us …. It’s cash! We’ve bought players in the past on the never never and it caught up with us with C.V.. I am of the opinion though that cash does need injecting, ideally through the owners (interest free loans but I understand that is restricted) or debt or we will start to fade away. We funded transfers in the past through big player sales who were in their prime (Suarez, coutinho) but do we really want to do that again? I just hope the Elliots / Jones become as good as we all hope and they have the potential to be.