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27 Jul 2024 05:19:55
Hi Ed2 I can't seem to find a list of cdms we are interested in. The need for one was clear last night are we showing any further interest in any?

{Ed002's Note - I have provided lengthy lists of players the club have watched.}

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27 Jul 2024 09:46:13
How, I don’t think a CDM will be arriving mate.

27 Jul 2024 10:14:17
The club are deluded if they don’t think we need one.

27 Jul 2024 11:07:03
I think that’s what frightens me most. It will take time for the players to adapt to slot etc but we have lots of injury prone players like Jones, Jota, Konate, Gomez and need some signings to sure up key positions like midfield and defence.

27 Jul 2024 11:28:05
I don’t think we’ll be signing one, by the time it becomes an issue, though given our apparent targets (Rabiot, Kimmich or Koopmeiners, none of whom are remotely good enough for the role), maybe it’s not a bad thing. Another season with no title awaits us.

27 Jul 2024 11:52:45
Kimmich isn’t “remotely good enough” to play cm?

I don’t agree with that.

I think Rabiot and Koopmeiners are also well thought of central midfield players. Although they might not be your preference.

I would like us to sign a central midfielder that can play deeper. I don’t necessarily align with the view that he’s got to be a “destroyer” though and I also think there’s plenty of players that could do well for us that aren’t Rodri or Rice but are still good players.

27 Jul 2024 12:05:36
PANIC! EVERYBODY PAN THE FOLK IC!

27 Jul 2024 12:10:50
I think that's me done with this site for a while. Far to much negativity and stressed out people. 5 odd weeks of the window to go, plenty of time together stuff done. I'd hate to see how you lot cope with every day stress.

27 Jul 2024 12:24:05
@Victirvaughn - what are you on about? Kimmich has been one of the best CDM’s of the last 10yrs, and koopimeiners is also very highly rated. I’d take either over endo in a heartbeat. You need to step off your high horse.

27 Jul 2024 12:32:57
Tristan. why u done with the site for a while . just skip past the ones u don't like . I don't agree with 3 qyluarters of what people say.

27 Jul 2024 12:35:04
Navy, none of them are remotely good enough to play number 6. Kimmich isn’t well thought of by Bayern Munich fans as a centre midfielder let alone as a defensive one. He’d get absolutely rinsed in the premier league, he was awful last season at Bayern and was binned off in midfield he because he was costing them games. A right back with midfield delusions. There’s a reason he has been dropped from midfield for Bayern and Germany.

Koopmeiners is far too similar to Mac Allister and as we already have Mac Allister there’s no point signing another identical type of midfielder, if we didn’t have Mac then he’d be a fine signing, but let’s be clear, he’s an attacking centre midfielder not a defensive one (I’m not buying that “he can play there” line) so wouldn’t offer us any more protection than anyone already at the club.

As for Rabiot, he could continue playing for another 1000 years and never be good enough to play for us. Offers nothing to the team defensively, he’s just a slower, less mobile, less good version of Curtis Jones.

27 Jul 2024 12:46:37
I’d say if we were to make one signing this summer it would have to be a DM.

27 Jul 2024 13:09:53
Victirvaughn - Not buying a DM will not cost us the league - might be worth looking back at last season and how we fell behind early in most games, no press, no intensity, no closing down the opposition in the final third, turning over the ball then going on to score, a trait that served us so well the year we won the CL and the league. Conceding silly goals from set pieces, playing the inverted full back, congesting the midfield.

27 Jul 2024 14:18:03
Plenty of interest in Baj, who will want game time.
Something has to give in MF if we do buy a DM, so who should that be?

Rice definitely improved Arsenal, although remains leagues behind Rodri.

Its a risk not buying one, and a risk to good young players opportunities if we do.

27 Jul 2024 16:38:05
"doz he break legz? "

The current mentality of some Liverpool fans when it comes to midfielders.

It's not 1980 midfielders don't need to be physical anymore. Tackling isn't just sliding and kicking lumps out of people. It's timing, in fact it's almost entirely timing.

Sliding is so low down on the list of skills required for defenders that maldini famously felt anyone who was sliding was only doing so as a last resort because they didn't know how to mark or steal the ball.

Baresi was a tackler and when asked what he felt about it he said that he found stealing the ball very tough because he was physically less developed and so he slid instead.


Slide tackling is the defender version of punching shots clear as a goalie. It's for the cameras, it's to look good. There's tons of things you could and should have done long before you ever needed to slide which would have prevented any need to slide.

27 Jul 2024 17:15:35
It obviously helps to have a presence in midfield, often last season we were getting cut open far too easily. Someone good in the air as well will help, let’s open Baj is the man. We desperately need a cb though.

27 Jul 2024 17:27:07
“Done with this site” people crying because we’re criticising the club and want to do well… heaven forbid. Given we’ve won one league in 30 years and we were short last year, it’s clear improvements are needed. What’s the problem with that view. I feel the club are either too cheap to invest properly or have the same narrow minded blinkers as Gareth Southgate does when he refuses to change tact and ultimately costs the team. It’s clear as day we need new blood.

27 Jul 2024 19:55:24
I still haven’t seen one defensive midfielder named by the brain trust on here that would improve us. It’s all well and good whining and complaining on here but unless you can come up with a constructive solution the all you are doing is venting to make yourself feel better.

27 Jul 2024 20:08:34
There are plenty of supporters on this site who have never experienced a sustained period of Liverpool success. They are happy just to challenge and get top 4. We won the league when we bought the best cb and the best goal keeper. We should be aiming for a signing of that calibre.

27 Jul 2024 20:15:49
Drogie, you deny it all you want, fact is we didn’t win a league title until we bought a top class defensive midfielder and every successful team has at least one and we have none. So we won’t win the league until adequately address that. Glad you’re happy playing cuckold to Man City because I’m not.

27 Jul 2024 20:27:25
Baj will be a top class player, I don’t have any doubts about that. Just like I am very confident Bradley is going to make a top class rb. If Baj is fully over his injury and has had several months full training then it’s just possible we might already have a dm at the level of Declan Rice.

{Ed025's Note - you say you have no doubts mark, then go on to say...IF Baj is over his injury...and has had several months training...and its just possible....that seems like doubts to me mate.. :)

27 Jul 2024 20:33:04
Viktor we didn't win the league until we brought in a good CDM? We've only won the league once in 30 years. Mashcerano, Alonso, hemann never changed that. I'd like a quality CDM but I don't think Fabinho was the main reason Liverpool won the league.

{Ed025's Note - i think he was certainly one of the reasons Jim..

27 Jul 2024 21:23:52
It’s all about opinions and it’s ok to have a different opinion. For me we need a CDM not necessarily an enforcer but definitely a more defensive minded player. City have Rodri Arsenal have Rice and we need someone of that ilk imo. If we don’t sign one I will still back us to challenge just think it could be the difference come end of the season.

27 Jul 2024 21:30:30
I don't have any doubts that Baj will be a top class player, it’s just when, that’s the issue. If we don’t buy a dm I can only hope the club feels he is 100% ready to go.

{Ed025's Note - i must say that i like him too Mark..

27 Jul 2024 23:09:23
Take it easy Tristan it’s a minority experiencing silly season hysteria.

I don’t know, maybe, just maybe, teams don’t want to sell the best CDM they have. Maybe they want to keep those players.
Maybe those players don’t want to sign for us?

What I do know is it’s not a simple process to sign the very best unless you have unlimited resources and a recently dominant team.

Let’s see what Slot can do with this squad.

28 Jul 2024 00:20:19
“Kimmich isn’t well thought of by Bayern Munich fans as a centre midfielder”

But he’s thought of enough to be selected by managers since 215 to get 260 plus appearances. But hey as long as the fans think he’s rubbish.

28 Jul 2024 02:23:57
I think the main issue is that there isn't a DM available out there that we can get right now who would improve us drastically. All the names mentioned (Kimmich, Rabiot, and Koopmeiners) aren't better than who we have currently. I do agree that we need someone of Rodri's or Rice's level but we can't magic one out of thin air.

28 Jul 2024 03:38:08
Structure will help our midfield and defense be less prone to counter attacks.

My favourite dumb talking point of the last couple seasons was “our midfield has no legs” lol. The way we play, we could have a midfield of Usain Bolt’s and still get caught out.

As for a CDM this window the only real strategy would be to buy a bona fide first choice CDM. Not sure who that is in this window. If there isn’t an obvious option, I’d rather stick with Endo, Bak and Trent.

28 Jul 2024 08:38:39
Have you seen our midfield try to recover when they are beaten the first time? I agree that new tactics can improve situations but you can’t have a full midfield than runs in treacle.

28 Jul 2024 12:46:27
Anyone suggesting we don't need a defensive midfielder needs their head reading. It's been a need since Fabinho's legs started to go in the quad chasing run-in. That's over 2 years ago now.

Given we got sanctioned by Sporting for tapping up Ugarte, failed in our Lavia and Caicedo pursuits and were forced to make an emergency signing in Endo, it seems like the recruitment team know there is a need for one.

It sounds like Ederson and Varela are serous targets. I think either would improve our first XI.

There are weaker links to Joao Gomes although he seems more like a box to box Gini type to me. Perhaps if Gravenberch was to leave.

Richard Rios, Zubimendi, Hjulmand we've not been linked to from what I can recall.

Nor have I seen old targets like Doucoure, Andre or Florentino come up.

I'll say it again, the one we missed out on in January was Gabriel Moscardo. He's gone to PSG who have a just agreed a fee with Benfica for Joao Neves, already having Vitinha, Ruiz, Ugarte, Danilo and Zaire-Emery.

28 Jul 2024 13:10:40
All the top teams have an excellent “spine” not just a DM
We have Ali and Virgil
We need a DM and someone up top to convert chances
These could be existing squad members who we improve as opposed to buying players.

I think a midfield of Baj, Mac and Dom could be ideal for us.

28 Jul 2024 18:27:21
I don’t disagree with that midfield P79, that’s assuming Sob plays to his first half of the season level. You can’t rely on Jones, he’s already bloody injured and if Grav goes we are short in midfield.





 

 

 
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